Official Nets Trade Spculation Thread

[Prokorov]

It sounds like some believe that Morey is going to offer a pick heavy deal. If that's the case, it's time to revisit what players out there fit into the TPEs or would be available for Harris+picks.

Any deal would likely be a 4 or 5 team trade.... especially with picks involved. I don't see the Nets taking Simmons, I think they would re-route him for a better fit.

The picks may actually be more valuable. KD/Kyrie are super liked, guys will want to play next to them. You re-route 3 or 4 picks and you could end up with someone like Mitchell who is rumored to hate gobert and want out.

Towns/Beal i dont love but either could probably be had for picks.

Maybe you look to break up the picks and give 2 for Grant and another 2 for Sabonis. Then re-route Simmons to the Kings. something like....

Nets out: Harden, Carter, Milsap
Nets in: Fox, Siakim, Sabonis, 2024 kings swap

Philly out: Simmons, 2022,2024,2026
Philly in: Harden, Milsap, Brown

Kings out: Fox, 2023, 2024 swap
Kings in: simmons

Pistons in: 2022, 2024, Carter, Brown
Pistons out: Jeremi Grant

Pacers in: 2023 (kings), 2026 (philly)
Pacers out: Sabonis

Fox | Kyrie | Grant | KD | Sabonis
Mills | Bembry | Harris | Kessler | Claxton

Thats a stud team

I don't think they'd re-route Simmons now. They'll roll with the upside of a 25 year old former allstar, former All-NBA defensive team & former All NBA team player for the rest of this year. KD can feel the fit out, and if it doesn't work, Simmons can be traded in the offseason.

Could do that and still re-route the picks for help. 3 firsts for Fox? 3 firsts for Collins? 2 Firsts for Siakim? 2 firsts for Sabonis? for Grant? We have the salary going out, may as well take advantage of it.

Kyrie | Simmons | Grant | KD | Sabonis

Fox | Kyrie | Harris | KD | Simmons

Kyrie | Simmons | Harris | KD | Collins

something along those lines

[TheNetsFan]

Any deal would likely be a 4 or 5 team trade.... especially with picks involved. I don't see the Nets taking Simmons, I think they would re-route him for a better fit.

The picks may actually be more valuable. KD/Kyrie are super liked, guys will want to play next to them. You re-route 3 or 4 picks and you could end up with someone like Mitchell who is rumored to hate gobert and want out.

Towns/Beal i dont love but either could probably be had for picks.

Maybe you look to break up the picks and give 2 for Grant and another 2 for Sabonis. Then re-route Simmons to the Kings. something like....

Nets out: Harden, Carter, Milsap
Nets in: Fox, Siakim, Sabonis, 2024 kings swap

Philly out: Simmons, 2022,2024,2026
Philly in: Harden, Milsap, Brown

Kings out: Fox, 2023, 2024 swap
Kings in: simmons

Pistons in: 2022, 2024, Carter, Brown
Pistons out: Jeremi Grant

Pacers in: 2023 (kings), 2026 (philly)
Pacers out: Sabonis

Fox | Kyrie | Grant | KD | Sabonis
Mills | Bembry | Harris | Kessler | Claxton

Thats a stud team

I don't think they'd re-route Simmons now. They'll roll with the upside of a 25 year old former allstar, former All-NBA defensive team & former All NBA team player for the rest of this year. KD can feel the fit out, and if it doesn't work, Simmons can be traded in the offseason.

Could do that and still re-route the picks for help. 3 firsts for Fox? 3 firsts for Collins? 2 Firsts for Siakim? 2 firsts for Sabonis? for Grant? We have the salary going out, may as well take advantage of it.

Kyrie | Simmons | Grant | KD | Sabonis

Fox | Kyrie | Harris | KD | Simmons

Kyrie | Simmons | Harris | KD | Collins

something along those lines

Honestly, I'd look for an emotional leader/on floor coach. Similar to what Jrue does for the Bucks. I'm not sure who that is. I always felt Rubio would have been a nice fit, but he's hurt. One guy that comes to mind, but I doubt he's available, and I wouldn't want to pay a lot for him is Conley. I think he could be a stabilizing presence. Maybe roll the dice on Eric Gordon, but I'm not a big fan of that move. Maybe Siakam, but that's adding another meh shooter.

[Prokorov]

I don't think they'd re-route Simmons now. They'll roll with the upside of a 25 year old former allstar, former All-NBA defensive team & former All NBA team player for the rest of this year. KD can feel the fit out, and if it doesn't work, Simmons can be traded in the offseason.

Could do that and still re-route the picks for help. 3 firsts for Fox? 3 firsts for Collins? 2 Firsts for Siakim? 2 firsts for Sabonis? for Grant? We have the salary going out, may as well take advantage of it.

Kyrie | Simmons | Grant | KD | Sabonis

Fox | Kyrie | Harris | KD | Simmons

Kyrie | Simmons | Harris | KD | Collins

something along those lines

Honestly, I'd look for an emotional leader/on floor coach. Similar to what Jrue does for the Bucks. I'm not sure who that is. I always felt Rubio would have been a nice fit, but he's hurt. One guy that comes to mind, but I doubt he's available, and I wouldn't want to pay a lot for him is Conley. I think he could be a stabilizing presence. Maybe roll the dice on Eric Gordon, but I'm not a big fan of that move. Maybe Siakam, but that's adding another meh shooter.

Marcus smart could be that guy. but thats rough shooting with him and simmons. but if you turn simmons into Collins you solve that

[Prokorov]

Collins, Bogdanovic + picks to me is more attractive then Simmons. if that is what atlanta brought to the table. Atlantas 2 picks + philly picks is a nice warchest to reroute.

4-5 picks pretty much gets you any player on the trade block. Towns/Beal would likely be in play for that kinda thing

[3pt_chucker]

The hot topic right now is whether or not Maxey has to be in the deal, so basically Simmons + Maxey for Harden but I'm not sure that's really what Marks would want.

I think he is probably targeting a pick heavy trade from Philly, with something like: Simmons + Korkmaz + Niang + 2/3 first round picks(or so something similar). This way the Nets have more flexibility to flip Simmons or make it a bigger trade once there's more picks involved. I also think I'd rather Sabonis than Simmons if possible. Perhaps we can loop the Pacers into a 3 team trade.

Also I'm pretty sure Marks and the coaching staff are high on Cam Thomas. Maxey on this roster does not work well with Cam playing in the same spot/role. Of course Maxey looks like he may have a higher ceiling but Cam is getting better as the season goes along and is on a cheap contract for longer. So even if Maxey is in the trade, one of him or Cam would be flipped for something else.

[Jay555]

How many times do I need to say it? Maxey is untouchable.

[GTR11]

How many times do I need to say it? Maxey is untouchable.

You need to chill. Morey definitely playing Maxey card hardest. Plain simple, if Maxey is what Marks going to ask or no deal... believe me Maxey coming to BK.

Some of y'all need to go and read CBAFAQ.com

Right now we doing our regular, keeping it really low. Give a sec, trust me Philthy will be leaking a lot of crap and Harden already spoke up. So getting info won't be an issue from them.

What some of y'all need to understand is that we gave up 3 border line all star type players and 7 picks pretty much. We sold a house to get Harden here.

Next, from what I'm reading and listening, Morey will need help from us to get Harden, let alone Dame along. This Maxey $hoot is way overhyped.

[zimpy27]

How many times do I need to say it? Maxey is untouchable.

You need to chill. Morey definitely playing Maxey card hardest. Plain simple, if Maxey is what Marks going to ask or no deal... believe me Maxey coming to BK.

Some of y'all need to go and read CBAFAQ.com

Right now we doing our regular, keeping it really low. Give a sec, trust me Philthy will be leaking a lot of crap and Harden already spoke up. So getting info won't be an issue from them.

What some of y'all need to understand is that we gave up 3 border line all star type players and 7 picks pretty much. We sold a house to get Harden here.

Next, from what I'm reading and listening, Morey will need help from us to get Harden, let alone Dame along. This Maxey $hoot is way overhyped.

Who are the 3 borderline all-stars you gave up for Harden?
It was Allen+LeVert+Prince+3 FRPS+4 swaps

[MrDollarBills]

How many times do I need to say it? Maxey is untouchable.

You need to chill. Morey definitely playing Maxey card hardest. Plain simple, if Maxey is what Marks going to ask or no deal... believe me Maxey coming to BK.

Some of y'all need to go and read CBAFAQ.com

Right now we doing our regular, keeping it really low. Give a sec, trust me Philthy will be leaking a lot of crap and Harden already spoke up. So getting info won't be an issue from them.

What some of y'all need to understand is that we gave up 3 border line all star type players and 7 picks pretty much. We sold a house to get Harden here.

Next, from what I'm reading and listening, Morey will need help from us to get Harden, let alone Dame along. This Maxey $hoot is way overhyped.

Who are the 3 borderline all-stars you gave up for Harden?
It was Allen+LeVert+Prince+3 FRPS+4 swaps

Allen is definitely an all star level talent. I can't say that about the other two.

[zimpy27]

You need to chill. Morey definitely playing Maxey card hardest. Plain simple, if Maxey is what Marks going to ask or no deal... believe me Maxey coming to BK.

Some of y'all need to go and read CBAFAQ.com

Right now we doing our regular, keeping it really low. Give a sec, trust me Philthy will be leaking a lot of crap and Harden already spoke up. So getting info won't be an issue from them.

What some of y'all need to understand is that we gave up 3 border line all star type players and 7 picks pretty much. We sold a house to get Harden here.

Next, from what I'm reading and listening, Morey will need help from us to get Harden, let alone Dame along. This Maxey $hoot is way overhyped.

Who are the 3 borderline all-stars you gave up for Harden?
It was Allen+LeVert+Prince+3 FRPS+4 swaps

Allen is definitely an all star level talent. I can't say that about the other two.

Yeah agreed, but he wasn't at the time of the trade, he only fetched an FRP at the time through a multi-team trade.

I'd probably have Simmons+Green+2 FRP as being equal to that Nets package. However, Nets would be trading to a rival, that requires more consideration and perhaps more assets.

[Butter]

The hot topic right now is whether or not Maxey has to be in the deal, so basically Simmons + Maxey for Harden but I'm not sure that's really what Marks would want.

I think he is probably targeting a pick heavy trade from Philly, with something like: Simmons + Korkmaz + Niang + 2/3 first round picks(or so something similar). This way the Nets have more flexibility to flip Simmons or make it a bigger trade once there's more picks involved. I also think I'd rather Sabonis than Simmons if possible. Perhaps we can loop the Pacers into a 3 team trade.

Also I'm pretty sure Marks and the coaching staff are high on Cam Thomas. Maxey on this roster does not work well with Cam playing in the same spot/role. Of course Maxey looks like he may have a higher ceiling but Cam is getting better as the season goes along and is on a cheap contract for longer. So even if Maxey is in the trade, one of him or Cam would be flipped for something else.

Would the Nets have any interest in a 3 way deal with Portland, returning CJ McCollum, and the Sixers picks to the Nets, Harden to the Sixers, and Simmons to the Blazers?

CJ can routinely give you 20+/night from mid range to deep shooting, but honestly, he's better as Robin and the Batman role.

A Kyrie, CJ, Durant core would be a pretty solid big three.

[TheNetsFan]

The hot topic right now is whether or not Maxey has to be in the deal, so basically Simmons + Maxey for Harden but I'm not sure that's really what Marks would want.

I think he is probably targeting a pick heavy trade from Philly, with something like: Simmons + Korkmaz + Niang + 2/3 first round picks(or so something similar). This way the Nets have more flexibility to flip Simmons or make it a bigger trade once there's more picks involved. I also think I'd rather Sabonis than Simmons if possible. Perhaps we can loop the Pacers into a 3 team trade.

Also I'm pretty sure Marks and the coaching staff are high on Cam Thomas. Maxey on this roster does not work well with Cam playing in the same spot/role. Of course Maxey looks like he may have a higher ceiling but Cam is getting better as the season goes along and is on a cheap contract for longer. So even if Maxey is in the trade, one of him or Cam would be flipped for something else.

Would the Nets have any interest in a 3 way deal with Portland, returning CJ McCollum, and the Sixers picks to the Nets, Harden to the Sixers, and Simmons to the Blazers?

CJ can routinely give you 20+/night from mid range to deep shooting, but honestly, he's better as Robin and the Batman role.

A Kyrie, CJ, Durant core would be a pretty solid big three.

If the Blazers go full fire sale and try to dump his contract maybe. Definitely not for Simmons.

[therealbig3]

This just makes me depressed man. We were so **** ing good last year when all 3 were together. Harden was literally an MVP candidate, Kyrie had a 50/40/90 season, and Durant was the best player in the league come playoff time.

Injuries and Kyrie screwed us over.

[TheNetsFan]

This just makes me depressed man. We were so **** ing good last year when all 3 were together. Harden was literally an MVP candidate, Kyrie had a 50/40/90 season, and Durant was the best player in the league come playoff time.

Injuries and Kyrie screwed us over.

I'll say it until I am blue in the face. The loss of D'Antoni was killer.

[MrDollarBills]

The hot topic right now is whether or not Maxey has to be in the deal, so basically Simmons + Maxey for Harden but I'm not sure that's really what Marks would want.

I think he is probably targeting a pick heavy trade from Philly, with something like: Simmons + Korkmaz + Niang + 2/3 first round picks(or so something similar). This way the Nets have more flexibility to flip Simmons or make it a bigger trade once there's more picks involved. I also think I'd rather Sabonis than Simmons if possible. Perhaps we can loop the Pacers into a 3 team trade.

Also I'm pretty sure Marks and the coaching staff are high on Cam Thomas. Maxey on this roster does not work well with Cam playing in the same spot/role. Of course Maxey looks like he may have a higher ceiling but Cam is getting better as the season goes along and is on a cheap contract for longer. So even if Maxey is in the trade, one of him or Cam would be flipped for something else.

Would the Nets have any interest in a 3 way deal with Portland, returning CJ McCollum, and the Sixers picks to the Nets, Harden to the Sixers, and Simmons to the Blazers?

CJ can routinely give you 20+/night from mid range to deep shooting, but honestly, he's better as Robin and the Batman role.

A Kyrie, CJ, Durant core would be a pretty solid big three.

We need a playmaker moreso I think.

Hell I am honestly unsure of what to do

[GTR11]

How many times do I need to say it? Maxey is untouchable.

You need to chill. Morey definitely playing Maxey card hardest. Plain simple, if Maxey is what Marks going to ask or no deal... believe me Maxey coming to BK.

Some of y'all need to go and read CBAFAQ.com

Right now we doing our regular, keeping it really low. Give a sec, trust me Philthy will be leaking a lot of crap and Harden already spoke up. So getting info won't be an issue from them.

What some of y'all need to understand is that we gave up 3 border line all star type players and 7 picks pretty much. We sold a house to get Harden here.

Next, from what I'm reading and listening, Morey will need help from us to get Harden, let alone Dame along. This Maxey $hoot is way overhyped.

Who are the 3 borderline all-stars you gave up for Harden?
It was Allen+LeVert+Prince+3 FRPS+4 swaps

Dinwiddie and LeVert both been all star runners up. Allen definitely should've been an all star.

[TheNetsFan]

You need to chill. Morey definitely playing Maxey card hardest. Plain simple, if Maxey is what Marks going to ask or no deal... believe me Maxey coming to BK.

Some of y'all need to go and read CBAFAQ.com

Right now we doing our regular, keeping it really low. Give a sec, trust me Philthy will be leaking a lot of crap and Harden already spoke up. So getting info won't be an issue from them.

What some of y'all need to understand is that we gave up 3 border line all star type players and 7 picks pretty much. We sold a house to get Harden here.

Next, from what I'm reading and listening, Morey will need help from us to get Harden, let alone Dame along. This Maxey $hoot is way overhyped.

Who are the 3 borderline all-stars you gave up for Harden?
It was Allen+LeVert+Prince+3 FRPS+4 swaps

Dinwiddie and LeVert both been all star runners up. Allen definitely should've been an all star.

Dinwiddie was not in the Harden trade.

[Paradise]

This just makes me depressed man. We were so **** ing good last year when all 3 were together. Harden was literally an MVP candidate, Kyrie had a 50/40/90 season, and Durant was the best player in the league come playoff time.

Injuries and Kyrie screwed us over.

Kyrie has nothing to do with Harden acting like a little bitch. He could’ve god forbid torn his ACL and this would’ve still been how this team looks with Harden. He’s showing all of the reasons people were sour on his exit with Houston. The 4 point game against the Kings was a DISGRACE. I’ve never seen a passive performance like that in a very long time.

He’s gotten so many opportunities to be himself, score 30-40-50-60 or take 30 shots but he wanted a free ride to relax as a member of the Big 3 and Nets. He came here out of shape and resulted into hamstring injuries derailing our championship run.

He is the ONLY member of the big 3 not to register one 40 point or 50 point home game in his entire tenure so far. Kyrie has virtually outplayed him even in all road games on both ends often and he’s only played so far in 10 games.

KD’s comments on the season and his injury during the KD podcast this week also shows a massive disconnect in desires. He clearly is far more invested here than Harden.

There’s really no excuse for Kyrie’s decision to affect Harden’s effort, desire and want to win when it hasn’t affected KD or the rest of the roster. It’s strictly on Harden being a diva and who he is.

[GTR11]

Who are the 3 borderline all-stars you gave up for Harden?
It was Allen+LeVert+Prince+3 FRPS+4 swaps

Dinwiddie and LeVert both been all star runners up. Allen definitely should've been an all star.

Dinwiddie was not in the Harden trade.

He was the reason we couldn't afford him. I don't count fill in pieces like prince.

[GTR11]

This just makes me depressed man. We were so **** ing good last year when all 3 were together. Harden was literally an MVP candidate, Kyrie had a 50/40/90 season, and Durant was the best player in the league come playoff time.

Injuries and Kyrie screwed us over.

Kyrie has nothing to do with Harden acting like a little bitch. He could’ve god forbid torn his ACL and this would’ve still been how this team looks with Harden. He’s showing all of the reasons people were sour on his exit with Houston. The 4 point game against the Kings was a DISGRACE. I’ve never seen a passive performance like that in a very long time.

He’s gotten so many opportunities to be himself, score 30-40-50-60 or take 30 shots but he wanted a free ride to relax as a member of the Big 3 and Nets. He came here out of shape and resulted into hamstring injuries derailing our championship run.

He is the ONLY member of the big 3 not to register one 40 point or 50 point home game in his entire tenure so far. Kyrie has virtually outplayed him even in all road games on both ends often and he’s only played so far in 10 games.

KD’s comments on the season and his injury during the KD podcast this week also shows a massive disconnect in desires. He clearly is far more invested here than Harden.

There’s really no excuse for Kyrie’s decision to affect Harden’s effort, desire and want to win when it hasn’t affected KD or the rest of the roster. It’s strictly on Harden being a diva and who he is.

Oh save that crap with Kyrie to yourself. He is THE F*** REASON this dumpsterfire is happening. From moment He came here s*** was happening, if you choose to close your eyes on it...cool but don't lie about it. Narcistic Dunning Kruger sole reason for all this s***.

Yes, Harden wanted a free ride the way KD did with GSW. Dude also 100% no bs taken when it comes to ball game. I'm not mad at him for wanting to leave, can it be done in better way, for sure it should've been handled much better. Other than that true pro.

Posted video in game thread, go listen harsh truth about that toxic waste that hyping anti Vax movement.

LBJ should've forced PG13 trade from the door. Instead of getting one ring, they could've had dynasty there in Cleveland.