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[KnicksGadfly]

Kyrie definitely deserves more blame than Nash or Harden. But the FO is the one who let wacko Kyrie take over and hired Nash, so, hey, maybe we’re all wrong

[Hello Brooklyn]

There are always multiple factors contributing to an issue, but it's really tough for the main issue not to be players missing time, and by that result Kyrie. KD being injured sucks, but he'll play all the games in the playoffs. Harden knows Kyrie won't be playing a high % of playoff games and he knows the roster can't go anywhere without either Kyrie playing or getting players instead of him who will play. This roster is even more top heavy than the KD Warriors but with worse depth.

If you have all 3 healthy in the playoffs the Nets are a clear top 3 team with a very high chance of winning the chip; So I think it really starts with Kyrie as the big reason why the Nets are dysfunctional. If you don't have all 3 the chances are not great for a chip and Harden knows that isn't happening this season.

And while Kyrie is gone Harden is under the microscope. I think he knows he has declined a bit, so having a big 3 where he can be more of a traditional PG is perfect, but with Kyrie out he's getting beaten up in the press, on forums, in games. He's not enjoying this and it's not what he signed up for.

I think KD is so laser focused on the goal he'll play lights out either way... but Kyrie is dragging this whole thing down. Nash may not be great but I don't think you need even a good coach if the big 3 are healthy to win a chip.

Thats a pretty ridiculous assertion.

The roster can go nowhere without Kyrie playing full time?

The Nets were #2 in the East before KD got hurt. They were certainly a legitimate contender.

You give me Harden + KD, part time Kyrie who in the East would beat the Nets? Milwaukee would be the only legitimate threat.

The real issue is again coaching. Nash is a horrible coach. He can't make adjustments or find ways to win games.

What you don't seem to understand is you have one problem that is incredibly fixable. Like super, super, super fixable.

You can't just 'suddenly have everyone be healthy'. Injuries suck but its bad luck and essentially non-controllable. Players aging, again that's part of the game and harder to predict or control.

Kyrie Irving has 100% agency to fix an enormous problem. Literally if he said 'you know what I was being stubborn' and got a shot that takes what? 5 minutes of time and a teeny, tiny amount of humility and it makes essentially every problem you have seem minor all of a sudden. But he's not going to do it because Kyrie has a brain injury the same way half your roster has physical injuries.

Kyrie being unavailable has the same on court effect as an injury that causes you to miss 50+ games while also adding a huge locker room burden knowing that a star player on a max contract doesn't care about the rest of the team. Durant got hurt because he's an injury prone player carrying a huge workload because Irving wanted a vacation (just like he did last year). Harden is pissed and frustrated because he's dealing with nagging injuries while Irving is out partying, relaxing, while wearing a tin foil hat.

I told you this last season and you didn't want to believe me. I said 'Irving and his selfish BS will lead to the Nets downfall and every Nets fan will end up resenting him the same way Cavs fans and Celtics fans do.'

I was totally right except one thing. every Nets fan will eventually turn on Kyrie except for you as that would take some humility admitting you were wrong.

The Nets had everyone healthy last playoffs. And got unlucky with injuries again.

Injuries can happen to anyone. Do I have to just assume that KD, Kyrie, and Harden will get injured again this playoffs?

I don't. I think its definitely possible that they don't.

I've been very critical of Kyrie. I wish he would take the shot. But if you think thats the main reason the Nets are imploding youre not paying attention.

Nets fans are not at all turning on Kyrie. In fact Ive seen more Nets fans turn on Harden.

At least Kyrie plays hard every game. Harden has basically quit.

I think Kyrie is misguided and being stupid. But I don't think hes a bad person or teammate for not wanting the vaccine. We all have people in our lives who don't want to take it. It just sucks that this is the situation.

I'm hoping the mandate gets repealed soon and Kyrie can play. Or at least that natural immunity will count instead.

[Pointgod]

Thats a pretty ridiculous assertion.

The roster can go nowhere without Kyrie playing full time?

The Nets were #2 in the East before KD got hurt. They were certainly a legitimate contender.

You give me Harden + KD, part time Kyrie who in the East would beat the Nets? Milwaukee would be the only legitimate threat.

The real issue is again coaching. Nash is a horrible coach. He can't make adjustments or find ways to win games.

I didn't say go nowhere but you are not winning a chip with the current roster and Kyrie as a part-time player. It's not working but you place all the blame on Nash & ignore the lack of depth.

Lack of depth?

Harris is injured. Aldridge is injured. Claxton is constantly injured. KD is out.

If you look at this team fully healthy depth is not the problem.

Part of the reason the KD was logging so many minutes is because of Kyrie being out. Harden eluded to something similar about minutes and not everyone on the team showing up. Kyrie and KD pushed for the unproven Nash as head coach. Look I used to give Kyrie the benefit of the doubt and excuse his eccentricities but this is a display of one of the most selfish acts that I’ve seen in sports. Literally he just needs to get vaccinated but his ego and lack of understanding about science is going to destroy any hopes this team has for a championship.

[DonaldSanders]

Part of the reason the KD was logging so many minutes is because of Kyrie being out. Harden eluded to something similar about minutes and not everyone on the team showing up. Kyrie and KD pushed for the unproven Nash as head coach. Look I used to give Kyrie the benefit of the doubt and excuse his eccentricities but this is a display of one of the most selfish acts that I’ve seen in sports. Literally he just needs to get vaccinated but his ego and lack of understanding about science is going to destroy any hopes this team has for a championship.

Yup. If Kyrie was playing the whole season you'd have a healthier Nets team with more wins that would be building cohesion like a well oiled machine. Instead you have guys going in and out of the lineup, chaos, turmoil, and one of the big 3 potentially wanting out.

But hey it must be Steve Nash's fault, those rotations!!

[zaz102]

Part of the reason the KD was logging so many minutes is because of Kyrie being out. Harden eluded to something similar about minutes and not everyone on the team showing up. Kyrie and KD pushed for the unproven Nash as head coach. Look I used to give Kyrie the benefit of the doubt and excuse his eccentricities but this is a display of one of the most selfish acts that I’ve seen in sports. Literally he just needs to get vaccinated but his ego and lack of understanding about science is going to destroy any hopes this team has for a championship.

Yup. If Kyrie was playing the whole season you'd have a healthier Nets team with more wins that would be building cohesion like a well oiled machine. Instead you have guys going in and out of the lineup, chaos, turmoil, and one of the big 3 potentially wanting out.

But hey it must be Steve Nash's fault, those rotations!!

Pointgod > Steve Nash

[Hipster Doofus]

So no one was traded and Simmons is still in Philly. Got you

Trade deadline is in a week, talk soon, again

[Hipster Doofus]

Why don’t you go ahead and save your flex for next week too than instead of trying to preemptively dunk 15ft from the basket there pal…

Dame has already come out with a strong statement post trade that he’s not asking for any trade or upset, so you’re still wrong there.

There’s been one single report that the Nets and Sixers will “have discussions”… hardly panac mode for the Nets… but also something we’ve known for weeks now that the Sixers may be tampering with Harden and that the Nets may end up being forced to do that deal either now or this summer so they do risk losing Harden and the assets they traded to get him for nothing.

Also all reports regarding Beal is that any deal this deadline is extremely unlikely….

So yeah, weird time to try your flex dude when there’s nothing much to flex over on your end…

I like flexing. Bookmarked again for a week from now, as GMs get closer and closer to panac mode

[DusterBuster]

Why don’t you go ahead and save your flex for next week too than instead of trying to preemptively dunk 15ft from the basket there pal…

Dame has already come out with a strong statement post trade that he’s not asking for any trade or upset, so you’re still wrong there.

There’s been one single report that the Nets and Sixers will “have discussions”… hardly panac mode for the Nets… but also something we’ve known for weeks now that the Sixers may be tampering with Harden and that the Nets may end up being forced to do that deal either now or this summer so they do risk losing Harden and the assets they traded to get him for nothing.

Also all reports regarding Beal is that any deal this deadline is extremely unlikely….

So yeah, weird time to try your flex dude when there’s nothing much to flex over on your end…

I like flexing. Bookmarked again for a week from now, as GMs get closer and closer to panac mode

You’re such a

[LakersLegacy]

Props to Ben for not doing what Vince Carter did and aging like booty on purpose …. but if he did he would have been traded along time ago

[Hipster Doofus]

You’re such a

[bebopdeluxe]

Thats a pretty ridiculous assertion.

The roster can go nowhere without Kyrie playing full time?

The Nets were #2 in the East before KD got hurt. They were certainly a legitimate contender.

You give me Harden + KD, part time Kyrie who in the East would beat the Nets? Milwaukee would be the only legitimate threat.

The real issue is again coaching. Nash is a horrible coach. He can't make adjustments or find ways to win games.

What you don't seem to understand is you have one problem that is incredibly fixable. Like super, super, super fixable.

You can't just 'suddenly have everyone be healthy'. Injuries suck but its bad luck and essentially non-controllable. Players aging, again that's part of the game and harder to predict or control.

Kyrie Irving has 100% agency to fix an enormous problem. Literally if he said 'you know what I was being stubborn' and got a shot that takes what? 5 minutes of time and a teeny, tiny amount of humility and it makes essentially every problem you have seem minor all of a sudden. But he's not going to do it because Kyrie has a brain injury the same way half your roster has physical injuries.

Kyrie being unavailable has the same on court effect as an injury that causes you to miss 50+ games while also adding a huge locker room burden knowing that a star player on a max contract doesn't care about the rest of the team. Durant got hurt because he's an injury prone player carrying a huge workload because Irving wanted a vacation (just like he did last year). Harden is pissed and frustrated because he's dealing with nagging injuries while Irving is out partying, relaxing, while wearing a tin foil hat.

I told you this last season and you didn't want to believe me. I said 'Irving and his selfish BS will lead to the Nets downfall and every Nets fan will end up resenting him the same way Cavs fans and Celtics fans do.'

I was totally right except one thing. every Nets fan will eventually turn on Kyrie except for you as that would take some humility admitting you were wrong.

The Nets had everyone healthy last playoffs. And got unlucky with injuries again.

Injuries can happen to anyone. Do I have to just assume that KD, Kyrie, and Harden will get injured again this playoffs?

I don't. I think its definitely possible that they don't.

I've been very critical of Kyrie. I wish he would take the shot. But if you think thats the main reason the Nets are imploding youre not paying attention.

Nets fans are not at all turning on Kyrie. In fact Ive seen more Nets fans turn on Harden.

At least Kyrie plays hard every game. Harden has basically quit.

I think Kyrie is misguided and being stupid. But I don't think hes a bad person or teammate for not wanting the vaccine. We all have people in our lives who don't want to take it. It just sucks that this is the situation.

I'm hoping the mandate gets repealed soon and Kyrie can play. Or at least that natural immunity will count instead.

To be honest, I do not have a SINGLE PERSON in my life - either in my family or among my closest friends - who has not taken the vaccine. They believe in science. They believe in contributing to a safe community. They believe in setting an example for the people around them.

I am very sorry that you have people in your family or orbit who are not vaccinated. I hope they stay safe.

Just keep them away from my family. Thanks.

[Nuntius]

At least Kyrie plays hard every game. Harden has basically quit.

Not every game. When he plays. That's an important distinction and it's also one of the main reasons why Harden has quit.

[Hello Brooklyn]

What you don't seem to understand is you have one problem that is incredibly fixable. Like super, super, super fixable.

You can't just 'suddenly have everyone be healthy'. Injuries suck but its bad luck and essentially non-controllable. Players aging, again that's part of the game and harder to predict or control.

Kyrie Irving has 100% agency to fix an enormous problem. Literally if he said 'you know what I was being stubborn' and got a shot that takes what? 5 minutes of time and a teeny, tiny amount of humility and it makes essentially every problem you have seem minor all of a sudden. But he's not going to do it because Kyrie has a brain injury the same way half your roster has physical injuries.

Kyrie being unavailable has the same on court effect as an injury that causes you to miss 50+ games while also adding a huge locker room burden knowing that a star player on a max contract doesn't care about the rest of the team. Durant got hurt because he's an injury prone player carrying a huge workload because Irving wanted a vacation (just like he did last year). Harden is pissed and frustrated because he's dealing with nagging injuries while Irving is out partying, relaxing, while wearing a tin foil hat.

I told you this last season and you didn't want to believe me. I said 'Irving and his selfish BS will lead to the Nets downfall and every Nets fan will end up resenting him the same way Cavs fans and Celtics fans do.'

I was totally right except one thing. every Nets fan will eventually turn on Kyrie except for you as that would take some humility admitting you were wrong.

The Nets had everyone healthy last playoffs. And got unlucky with injuries again.

Injuries can happen to anyone. Do I have to just assume that KD, Kyrie, and Harden will get injured again this playoffs?

I don't. I think its definitely possible that they don't.

I've been very critical of Kyrie. I wish he would take the shot. But if you think thats the main reason the Nets are imploding youre not paying attention.

Nets fans are not at all turning on Kyrie. In fact Ive seen more Nets fans turn on Harden.

At least Kyrie plays hard every game. Harden has basically quit.

I think Kyrie is misguided and being stupid. But I don't think hes a bad person or teammate for not wanting the vaccine. We all have people in our lives who don't want to take it. It just sucks that this is the situation.

I'm hoping the mandate gets repealed soon and Kyrie can play. Or at least that natural immunity will count instead.

To be honest, I do not have a SINGLE PERSON in my life - either in my family or among my closest friends - who has not taken the vaccine. They believe in science. They believe in contributing to a safe community. They believe in setting an example for the people around them.

I am very sorry that you have people in your family or orbit who are not vaccinated. I hope they stay safe.

Just keep them away from my family. Thanks.

Having this close minded elitist attitude is not helpful.

I am 100% pro vaccine. Are there idiots who believe they shouldn't get the vaccine because they are anti-science? Yes

Are there also people who are skeptical of the government and don't want to be forced to do things? Also yes.

There are also people who are poor and literally can't get to a vaccine site. And don't have cars to get there.

If you really don't know anyone who is unvaccinated then you must live in some bubble. And need more exposure to the world.

[Hello Brooklyn]

At least Kyrie plays hard every game. Harden has basically quit.

Not every game. When he plays. That's an important distinction and it's also one of the main reasons why Harden has quit.

Harden quit because he has had to play a couple of home games without Kyrie? They have been on a massive road trip.

Harden quit because he is out of shape shell of himself. And wants to blame others rather than admit responsbility.

All season KD was dragging the Nets to the 2nd best record in the East. While Harden did nothing.

Maybe now he knows what he feels like.

[Nuntius]

At least Kyrie plays hard every game. Harden has basically quit.

Not every game. When he plays. That's an important distinction and it's also one of the main reasons why Harden has quit.

Harden quit because he has had to play a couple of home games without Kyrie? They have been on a massive road trip.

Harden quit because he is out of shape shell of himself. And wants to blame others rather than admit responsbility.

All season KD was dragging the Nets to the 2nd best record in the East. While Harden did nothing.

Maybe now he knows what he feels like.

A couple of games without Kyrie? Kyrie has only played 11 games this season. Out of a possible 54.

Harden, on the other hand, has played 44 out of 54 games. He is also averaging 37 minutes per game.

The wear and tear between the two players this season is really not comparable at all. Kyrie deciding not to play has put a lot of strain on the rest of the Nets and, yes, that includes Harden. He has every reason to blame Kyrie.

[Nuntius]

Are there also people who are skeptical of the government and don't want to be forced to do things? Also yes.

Being skeptical of the government doesn't mean that you shoot yourself in the foot.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Not every game. When he plays. That's an important distinction and it's also one of the main reasons why Harden has quit.

Harden quit because he has had to play a couple of home games without Kyrie? They have been on a massive road trip.

Harden quit because he is out of shape shell of himself. And wants to blame others rather than admit responsbility.

All season KD was dragging the Nets to the 2nd best record in the East. While Harden did nothing.

Maybe now he knows what he feels like.

A couple of games without Kyrie? Kyrie has only played 11 games this season. Out of a possible 54.

Harden, on the other hand, has played 44 out of 54 games. He is also averaging 37 minutes per game.

The wear and tear between the two players this season is really not comparable at all. Kyrie deciding not to play has put a lot of strain on the rest of the Nets and, yes, that includes Harden. He has every reason to blame Kyrie.

The vast majority of those games have been with either Kyrie or KD. Hes only had a to play a few home games without Kyrie since KD has been injured. Less than 10.

All of which have been losses btw.

He has a right to be angry at Kyrie.

Thats not an excuse for him playing like **** all year. You guys are making excuses for Harden like the reason hes palying bad is without being Kyrie for a few games.

In reality KD was busting his ass playing 40 minutes a night and Harden was playing like garbage,

I'm pretty sure Harden can survive playing six weeks without KD or Kyrie for home games until KD comes back from injury. Its not some impossible task.

Players like Jokic or Embiid have been playing all season without much help. And you don't hear a peep out of them.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Are there also people who are skeptical of the government and don't want to be forced to do things? Also yes.

Being skeptical of the government doesn't mean that you shoot yourself in the foot.

Shoot yourself in the foot?

Kyrie literally already had COVID. He has anti-bodies and natural immunity. Which the CDC has recognized as stronger than vaccines.

Other unvaccinated players are allowed to come play in Barclays all the time. Because they don't live in NYC. What sense does that make?

I still think he should get vaccinated.

But this rule is stupid. And Kyrie is not putting himself at risk by not taking a vaccine.

The mandates have served their purpose. Time to move on.

[jbk1234]

Well, Morey has been proven right, in the offseason, no one thought Brown or Beal for Simmons are realistic, I think both deals are totally realistic now, and if Lillard wasn't injured, he also would be realistic.

Have the Celtics made Brown available?

[Nuntius]

Shoot yourself in the foot?

Kyrie literally already had COVID. He has anti-bodies and natural immunity. Which the CDC has recognized as stronger than vaccines.

Yes, shoot yourself in the foot. That's what Kyrie is doing. Yes, Kyrie's had Covid. But people who have had Covid are not immune from it. They can get it again. My 9-year old cousin first caught Delta and two months later he caught Omicron.

Also, immunity from infection doesn't last forever. My father caught Covid during the second wave back in 2020. He was in the ICU for 52 days so, yeah, his antibody count was really high. They still don't last for a long time, though, so he got vaccinated in December.

Other unvaccinated players are allowed to come play in Barclays all the time. Because they don't live in NYC. What sense does that make?

I still think he should get vaccinated.

But this rule is stupid.

Yes, the rule is stupid. Unvaccinated players from other teams shouldn't be allowed to come play in NYC.

And Kyrie is not putting himself at risk by not taking a vaccine.

He is, though. And, more importantly, he is putting those around him at risk.

The mandates have served their purpose. Time to move on.

I don't really give a crap about any mandate. Getting vaccinated against a pandemic isn't a political decision. It's a common sense decision.