2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Rapsfan07]

would you do Goran Dragic and a 2026 2nd for Gary harris? Harris is averaging 12 points on good %s. he can slot in around everyone in the lineup.

Nope.

I generally do not like deals that have us giving up future assets of any kind while not adding any present or future value. Adding Harris doesn't take us closer to a championship this year and expires this summer, same as Dragic. So IMO it makes no sense.

[Rodrickle]

would you do Goran Dragic and a 2026 2nd for Gary harris? Harris is averaging 12 points on good %s. he can slot in around everyone in the lineup.

Nope.

I generally do not like deals that have us giving up future assets of any kind while not adding any present or future value. Adding Harris doesn't take us closer to a championship this year and expires this summer, same as Dragic. So IMO it makes no sense.

I'd consider it. Not many teams have cap space, and the ones that do, I doubt they'd go after Gary. I'm sure we would be able to resign him to a reasonable deal. His injury history has definitely lowered his value. He'd be great off the bench. Can defend, shoot and even pass a bit. Would make a playoff rotation. That said, its still better if we get someone with a 2022/23 contract.

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[TheBoi10]

Knicks get expiring for dude they have on books for another year and don't want. Raps get a really good backup that cooked us not too long ago.



Raps pay future second round pick in exchange for Portland's poo poo plater expirings including Nurkic who'll be a very useful piece in certain matchups this season



Raps pay a protected FRP for 1.5 seasons of Myles Turner, Indy gets expiring Goran. Huge 2 way upgrade at center.

[Gold Dragon]

would you do Goran Dragic and a 2026 2nd for Gary harris? Harris is averaging 12 points on good %s. he can slot in around everyone in the lineup.

A 2026 2nd is too far away to be much value. I can't see Orlando giving up Harris for that. I also expect them to get more from other teams than just the corpse of Dragic and a 2023 2nd (which is the earliest one we have).

Also if we just swap Dragic for Harris, we will be back over the tax again so there needs to be either another player or another deal to get us under.

[agkagk]

Knicks get expiring for dude they have on books for another year and don't want. Raps get a really good backup that cooked us not too long ago.



Raps pay future second round pick in exchange for Portland's poo poo plater expirings including Nurkic who'll be a very useful piece in certain matchups this season



Raps pay a protected FRP for 1.5 seasons of Myles Turner, Indy gets expiring Goran. Huge 2 way upgrade at center.

Considering how well our starters are playing, is moving Barnes to the bench in favour of turner reslly an upgrade?

[TheBoi10]

Knicks get expiring for dude they have on books for another year and don't want. Raps get a really good backup that cooked us not too long ago.



Raps pay future second round pick in exchange for Portland's poo poo plater expirings including Nurkic who'll be a very useful piece in certain matchups this season



Raps pay a protected FRP for 1.5 seasons of Myles Turner, Indy gets expiring Goran. Huge 2 way upgrade at center.

Considering how well our starters are playing, is moving Barnes to the bench in favour of turner reslly an upgrade?

I meant upgrade over our real Centers: Precious and Khem. Turner doesn't have to start every game, maybe for certain matchups.

[bboyskinnylegs]

are the Pelicans sellers at this point?

[Supermann98]

https://www.si.com/nba/lakers/news/lakers-willing-to-trade-key-players-to-land-gary-trent-jr-from-toronto-bas2121

Laker fans, or should I say, Lakers writers for SI, must be high as hell to think that Dwight Howard or DeAndre Jordan would move the needle on this trash trade.

[bluerap23]

In the low cost cat

[Supermann98]

In the low cost cat

This low-key makes us dangerous af

[dukes_wild]

In the low cost cat

I like this trade

[Mattatron]

In the low cost cat

I like this trade

At firsg sight I like it too, until I saw their contract length, their movable, but with this trade we still have no real big that can handle somehow embiid or other solid bigs. Detroit should give us a FRP tbh

[bluerap23]

In the low cost cat

I like this trade

At firsg sight I like it too, until I saw their contract length, their movable, but with this trade we still have no real big that can handle somehow embiid or other solid bigs. Detroit should give us a FRP tbh

Yes contract length is a slight issue. I think that is the main incentive for Detroit to make the deal.
Cory's contract next year is a PO. It is possible that he would reject it. Probably 50/50
Kelly's contract has only a 3 million guarantee in the third year, so it is a little more bearable.
This deal does free up 2+ million this year to add one more guy (maybe we convince Marc, though unlikely).

[Psubs]

In the low cost cat

I like this trade

At firsg sight I like it too, until I saw their contract length, their movable, but with this trade we still have no real big that can handle somehow embiid or other solid bigs. Detroit should give us a FRP tbh

The equivalent of that would be to remove our 2nd pick and have them add one since could be early in the 2nd.

CoJo, Olynyk, cash and 2nd pick for Dragic.

[StopitLeo]

would you do Goran Dragic and a 2026 2nd for Gary harris? Harris is averaging 12 points on good %s. he can slot in around everyone in the lineup.

I think Bamba + Harris should be the target package.

Bamba is underrated playing in Orlando. He is in his fourth year and has shown improvement in almost all statistical categories year-over-year. People want a big who can protect the rim, shoot the 3, rebound, and make FTs so they can finish games - that’s Bamba.

I see a lot of people saying that Bamba has low basketball IQ but that is completely inconsistent with what his coaches in AAU and at Texas have said, and what scouts wrote about him going into the draft. The guy paid to go to the MIT Sloan Analytic conference when he was in high-school because he wanted to learn and get better.

I think Bamba could really flourish on a good team like the Raptors where the coaches will put him in spots to be most successful. There may be some concerns about injury but if you look at the reasons he’s missed large stretches they were a tibia stress fracture as a rookie and then a challenging COVID recovery.

[AkelaLoneWolf]

would you do Goran Dragic and a 2026 2nd for Gary harris? Harris is averaging 12 points on good %s. he can slot in around everyone in the lineup.

I think Bamba + Harris should be the target package.

Bamba is underrated playing in Orlando. He is in his fourth year and has shown improvement in almost all statistical categories year-over-year. People want a big who can protect the rim, shoot the 3, rebound, and make FTs so they can finish games - that’s Bamba.

I see a lot of people saying that Bamba has low basketball IQ but that is completely inconsistent with what his coaches in AAU and at Texas have said, and what scouts wrote about him going into the draft. The guy paid to go to the MIT Sloan Analytic conference when he was in high-school because he wanted to learn and get better.

I think Bamba could really flourish on a good team like the Raptors where the coaches will put him in spots to be most successful. There may be some concerns about injury but if you look at the reasons he’s missed large stretches they were a tibia stress fracture as a rookie and then a challenging COVID recovery.

will he be ok playing behind birch

[causal_fan]

What would Jalen Smith cost raptors? would Chris Boucher & 2023 SRP for Jalen Smith & 2024 FRP(protected) be Fair?

[bluerap23]

[Son Goku 25]

I like this trade

At firsg sight I like it too, until I saw their contract length, their movable, but with this trade we still have no real big that can handle somehow embiid or other solid bigs. Detroit should give us a FRP tbh

Yes contract length is a slight issue. I think that is the main incentive for Detroit to make the deal.
Cory's contract next year is a PO. It is possible that he would reject it. Probably 50/50
Kelly's contract has only a 3 million guarantee in the third year, so it is a little more bearable.
This deal does free up 2+ million this year to add one more guy (maybe we convince Marc, though unlikely).

The IQ and passing, shooting with Marc and Kelly would be welcomed. I think we'd have a good chance of upsetting a couple of teams and then anything is possible.

[Rapsfan07]

would you do Goran Dragic and a 2026 2nd for Gary harris? Harris is averaging 12 points on good %s. he can slot in around everyone in the lineup.

I think Bamba + Harris should be the target package.

Bamba is underrated playing in Orlando. He is in his fourth year and has shown improvement in almost all statistical categories year-over-year. People want a big who can protect the rim, shoot the 3, rebound, and make FTs so they can finish games - that’s Bamba.

I see a lot of people saying that Bamba has low basketball IQ but that is completely inconsistent with what his coaches in AAU and at Texas have said, and what scouts wrote about him going into the draft. The guy paid to go to the MIT Sloan Analytic conference when he was in high-school because he wanted to learn and get better.

I think Bamba could really flourish on a good team like the Raptors where the coaches will put him in spots to be most successful. There may be some concerns about injury but if you look at the reasons he’s missed large stretches they were a tibia stress fracture as a rookie and then a challenging COVID recovery.

will he be ok playing behind birch

He doesn't need to be as he should be playing behind Birch in the first place.

I agree that Bamba should be the target. We need a C who is young and can rebound, shoot the 3, defend and make FTs. Out of all the Cs on the market, I think he's not only the most attainable but also the best option for the long term outlook of the team.

The downside is we HAVE to take Terrence Ross back. Taking back Gary Harris instead means we have to either add Boucher (who can be used in another trade to address a different hole in the roster) or trade a bunch our depth to equal the difference which is about $7M.

Easiest way to do this is just Dragic + 2022 protected FRP for Ross + Bamba. Follow that up with Boucher for White. This will take us back under the tax while giving us two young quality pieces that can help now and be part of the future. If you have to deal Flynn, I think Hernangomez is a good target for C depth.

Vanvleet/Trent/Anunoby/Siakam/Bamba
White/Ross/Barnes/Precious/Birch