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Post#461 » by Tor_Raps » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:06 am

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He has a heel injury hes out for the game tonight. Not trade related unless they are faking the injury.


Teams fake injuries all the time during this stretch to avoid the player getting injured for real.

There is almost a 0 chance Gordon stays with the Rockets unless their GM pulls a Masai. Although Gordon still has another year left on the contract lol.
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Post#462 » by SurgeIblocka » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:07 am

One name no one is mentioning is Capela, he has one more year on his contract and is close to dragic’s salary. His defensive numbers are better than Poetel, Jokic, Ayton and Sabonis he is only second to Gobert for 2020-2021 season. He probably just needs a change of team to bring back those numbers
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Post#464 » by DatHomieYouHaTe » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:08 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:Shocked if we give up our FRP this year. We still need to add through the draft and we dont have our 2nd this year.
It would just look foolish to go out in the first round and we got no picks to improve the club


Not if you get someone like Turner. This is a pretty bad draft by all accounts.


Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.
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Post#465 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:12 am

DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
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WuTang_OG wrote:Shocked if we give up our FRP this year. We still need to add through the draft and we dont have our 2nd this year.
It would just look foolish to go out in the first round and we got no picks to improve the club


Not if you get someone like Turner. This is a pretty bad draft by all accounts.


Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.


And the draft isnt pretty bad lol. Still too early to say. Also we draft guys not for what they are but what for we think they will become and develop them to get there.

Giving up a first for a guy who wont start seems shortsighted and i love turner
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Post#466 » by Madhouse » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:16 am

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
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Not if you get someone like Turner. This is a pretty bad draft by all accounts.


Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.


And the draft isnt pretty bad lol. Still too early to say. Also we draft guys not for what they are but what for we think they will become and develop them to get there.

Giving up a first for a guy who wont start seems shortsighted and i love turner


I think the draft is pretty deep.
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Post#467 » by Raps1103 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:17 am

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Not if you get someone like Turner. This is a pretty bad draft by all accounts.


Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.


And the draft isnt pretty bad lol. Still too early to say. Also we draft guys not for what they are but what for we think they will become and develop them to get there.

Giving up a first for a guy who wont start seems shortsighted and i love turner


But if we drafted a player that became the exact talent level of Turner.. we’d be super stoked … we already know what we’re getting with Myles
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Post#468 » by DreamTeam09 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:18 am

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
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Not if you get someone like Turner. This is a pretty bad draft by all accounts.


Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.


And the draft isnt pretty bad lol. Still too early to say. Also we draft guys not for what they are but what for we think they will become and develop them to get there.

Giving up a first for a guy who wont start seems shortsighted and i love turner


The draft pick isn't going to start,

Might start in SL or the GLeague

A 1st for Turner we can rebound from that. Even if Turner doesn't start. He'll start when we play Embiid
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Post#469 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:21 am

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DatHomieYouHaTe wrote:
Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.


And the draft isnt pretty bad lol. Still too early to say. Also we draft guys not for what they are but what for we think they will become and develop them to get there.

Giving up a first for a guy who wont start seems shortsighted and i love turner


But if we drafted a player that became the exact talent level of Turner.. we’d be super stoked … we already know what we’re getting with Myles


He isnt starting this year or the foreseeable future. You going to spend a FRP on him now when in a year you would have to re-up him at a high number again just to come off the bench? Lol. I just dont see masai doing that.

Stay patient, draft this year and develop him with the core. Guaranteed 4 years.
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Post#470 » by kj_ » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:23 am

Asif16 wrote:Washington and Indiana reported deal for Sabonis intrigues me because Washington will be eager to move Spencer Dinwiddie's contract of thats the case even more.

Maybe get involved in a 3-way and get Spencer Somehow

Dinwiddie’s shooting 37% from the field and 31% from 3. What is there to like there?


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Post#471 » by Zeno » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:23 am

If nothing more sexy comes up, I think we do Dragic, Boucher for Gallo, Dieng. Saves 2 million. Gallo offers more scoring pop off the bench. Dieng is a somewhat reasonable actual C who can shoot a little. I think Masai and Bobby wouldn't mind having the place holder salary on the books around the draft incase of trade. Has 5 million guaranteed. It is kind of a punt move.
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Post#472 » by Asif16 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:23 am

SurgeIblocka wrote:One name no one is mentioning is Capela, he has one more year on his contract and is close to dragic’s salary. His defensive numbers are better than Poetel, Jokic, Ayton and Sabonis he is only second to Gobert for 2020-2021 season. He probably just needs a change of team to bring back those numbers


This is interesting because I've heard numerous times how Okongu should be starting for the hawks with his level of play.

Okongu is still too young however and think Capela is their defensiver anchor. Dont see it happening this year. Maybe Capela gets moves in the off-season
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Post#473 » by TheBoi10 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:24 am

I'd be disappointed if we give up any draft capital for a guy like Poeltl
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Post#474 » by Asif16 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:26 am

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Asif16 wrote:Washington and Indiana reported deal for Sabonis intrigues me because Washington will be eager to move Spencer Dinwiddie's contract of thats the case even more.

Maybe get involved in a 3-way and get Spencer Somehow

Dinwiddie’s shooting 37% from the field and 31% from 3. What is there to like there?


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His stats without beal are totally different. Him and beal aren't a good fit.

Assuming he would be coming off the bench here, he's an ideal combo guard to have who can create for others while also being a respectable threat from shooting. Very very good rebounder as well for his position.

He's the type of ball-handling combo guard we need when Fred goes to the bench. Maybe he turns his shooting % around after being traded.
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Post#475 » by ForeverTFC » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:27 am

Madhouse wrote:
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Is it? They said that about the Kyrie Irving draft and teams were able to get Klay at 11 and kawhi at 15. The way we usually draft we should be keeping our pick unless we getting a killer long term piece.


And the draft isnt pretty bad lol. Still too early to say. Also we draft guys not for what they are but what for we think they will become and develop them to get there.

Giving up a first for a guy who wont start seems shortsighted and i love turner


I think the draft is pretty deep.


I get wanting to keep picks but you have to weigh both sides. We traded a first for Lowry and Ibaka when we were not near contention. Even with our draft record, getting a Turner talent in the late teens/early 20s is a homerun. I hear you all that the cap implications of adding someone like him to this roster is not as appealing though, compared to a rookie scale contract.

I haven't studied the draft much this year but consensus has been that it's is not deep at all. Guys projected on back-half of the first round are second round talent.
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Post#476 » by ForeverTFC » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:28 am

Asif16 wrote:
kj_ wrote:
Asif16 wrote:Washington and Indiana reported deal for Sabonis intrigues me because Washington will be eager to move Spencer Dinwiddie's contract of thats the case even more.

Maybe get involved in a 3-way and get Spencer Somehow

Dinwiddie’s shooting 37% from the field and 31% from 3. What is there to like there?


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His stats without beal are totally different. Him and beal aren't a good fit.

Assuming he would be coming off the bench here, he's an ideal combo guard to have who can create for others while also being a respectable threat from shooting. Very very good rebounder as well for his position.

He's the type of ball-handling combo guard we need when Fred goes to the bench. Maybe he turns his shooting % around after being traded.


20/8/5.5, 38% from 3 in a 12 game sample without Beal, He'd be fantastic as our 6th man.
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Post#477 » by tecumseh18 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:30 am

TheBoi10 wrote:I'd be disappointed if we give up any draft capital for a guy like Poeltl


In a 2016 redraft, Jak still went in the top 10. He's a good young player, and he was part of the compensation for Kawhi. Spurs aren't gonna give him up for free.

But I think the Raps biggest need is for bench guard/wing depth, and I don't want them to give up all the trading chips for a "legit C". I'd send draft capital to the Spurs if we can get White AND Poeltl.
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Post#478 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:31 am

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Post#479 » by Asif16 » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:33 am

ForeverTFC wrote:
Asif16 wrote:
kj_ wrote:Dinwiddie’s shooting 37% from the field and 31% from 3. What is there to like there?


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His stats without beal are totally different. Him and beal aren't a good fit.

Assuming he would be coming off the bench here, he's an ideal combo guard to have who can create for others while also being a respectable threat from shooting. Very very good rebounder as well for his position.

He's the type of ball-handling combo guard we need when Fred goes to the bench. Maybe he turns his shooting % around after being traded.


20/8/5.5, 38% from 3 in a 12 game sample without Beal, He'd be fantastic as our 6th man.


Appreciate you pulling up the stats. Dinwiddie is still a very solid player, albeit he's definitely overpaid. But he's locked in with term and even if he doesnt pan out for us...his contract is easily tradeable in the off-season if need be.

Raptors wont have any space this off-season to really add any significant bench piece anyways. Banking on Dinwiddie to become a legit 6th man for us would be ideal. He's clearly still a very good player when he fits on a team
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Post#480 » by SurgeIblocka » Mon Feb 7, 2022 3:33 am

The difference between the Wolves and Kings and contenders is that the teams that became contenders knew not to use picks once you have a solid core and you start to trade those pick to round out a team. This team has its core in Pascal, Fred, OG, Barnes and Trent. No need to try and hit home runs on low draft picks , now is the time you add established players not rookies who need 2 years + to develop. Especially if your picking in teens. Took 2+ years for Pascal, Fred and Og to develop. When you pick high at #4 you can get someone like Barnes to make an immediate impact. This is why its time to trade draft capital. You can’t bank your future on hoping to continuously move up in the draft lottery that is just terrible planning

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