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80sballboy wrote:Gonzaga Tommy will have what he wants if he doesn't trade Rui: Sabonis, Hachimura, Ayayi, and Kispert. What are the chances of either drafting Timme in the second round or selecting him as a FA? 80%?
Same voice James Earl Jones saying this is vnn80sballboy wrote:WTF is the Vengeance News Network and the Lakers have less assets than we do to get Sabonis.
The Phoenix Suns have taken calls from the Denver Nuggets, Detroit Pistons, Washington Wizards, San Antonio Spurs, and Toronto Raptors for young backup Jalen Smith. The Pistons’ offer includes Rodney McGruder who was first included in a failed trade for Denver’s Bol Bol (now with Boston).
Ok, Tommy is doing some work if this is true
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Shai Gilgeous-AlexanderFAH1223 wrote:gambitx777 wrote:I would be incredibly upset if Tommy was forced to do any of these trades. We have great young tallent...... I'd rather trade Beal and move on.....
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Part of me just hopes we trade for a guard. An actual PG.
That's who they really should pursue. Haliburton isn't happening. SGA here with Bradley going to Boston would be thrilling to me.
FAH1223 wrote:
LOL. Bulls should have kept Gafford.
Spurs have no reason to trade Poetl unless they are putting a package for Sabonis or Turner.
FAH1223 wrote:
LOL. Bulls should have kept Gafford.
Spurs have no reason to trade Poetl unless they are putting a package for Sabonis or Turner.
pcbothwel wrote:Bulls need a backup 5 pretty bad. I think Harrell is a perfect energy big for them behind Vuc.
- I think Tommy is aiming to turn Harrell & Bryant (expiring productive Bigs) into negative value filler (Saric, Favors, etc) plus assets.
- I think OKC gets tied in with us sending them expirings and unprotecting our 2023 pick for Favors and the Suns 1st.
- This not only allows us to trade a 2025 pick (with protection), but also our 2022 pick because we would have the Suns 1st. That will be his package to the Pacers... I believe.
2022 unprotected 1st (Probably 12-14 range), Rui (Either directly or routed to 3rd team for future 1st), 2025 1st (Some protection), and expiring filler.
nate33 wrote:Dark Faze wrote:If there are better teams interested, Sabonis and his agent would be wise to try to nudge Indiana away from Washington and in those directions.
Yeah, after looking around on the trade board, it is evident that the Wizards simply can't offer a competitive Sabonis offer unless they include Avdija and Kispert and a future pick. But since all their picks are encumbered until 2027, they would probably have to lift the protection on the pick owed to OKC. So basically, the package would be: Avdija, Kispert, unprotect the 2023 pick, and trade Indy the 2025 pick.
That's a MASSIVE hail Mary gamble for a guy with only 2 years on his deal. Also, it would be damn close to impossible to maintain a capable roster around Beal and Sabonis when both are on max deals and our stockpile of cheap rookie contract guys (and future rookie contract guys) is so depleted.
Next year alone we'd be paying $122M for just 6 guys: Beal, Sabonis, Dinwiddie, Bertans, KCP and Kuzma. Leaving us with $25M to pay the other 9 guys on the roster. Basically, it's Rui, Gafford, our draft pick, and minimum salary guys.
The year after that, we'd be paying $113M for just Beal, Sabonis, Dinwiddie, Gafford and Bertans. There are no starting forwards in that group. We'd have maybe $32M or so to resign Kuzma and/or Hachimura, replace KCP, pay our 2022 draft pick, and fill out our bench.
pcbothwel wrote:Bulls need a backup 5 pretty bad. I think Harrell is a perfect energy big for them behind Vuc.
- I think Tommy is aiming to turn Harrell & Bryant (expiring productive Bigs) into negative value filler (Saric, Favors, etc) plus assets.
- I think OKC gets tied in with us sending them expirings and unprotecting our 2023 pick for Favors and the Suns 1st.
- This not only allows us to trade a 2025 pick (with protection), but also our 2022 pick because we would have the Suns 1st. That will be his package to the Pacers... I believe.
2022 unprotected 1st (Probably 12-14 range), Rui (Either directly or routed to 3rd team for future 1st), 2025 1st (Some protection), and expiring filler.
If the Pacers are truly rebuilding, is there a team that will offer a higher pick than our unprotected 1st this year?
Bickerstaff: who's up for kickball?!!
Ed Wood: Only if it's the no-pants variety.
80sballboy wrote:That would be So Wiz to take Westbrook back and try and make the 8th seed just to appease Beal.
Rafael122 wrote:Shep wasn't there yet (in terms of trading Dinwiddie), but I would have flipped Dinwiddie for Rubio and their 1st. Cleveland could have kept the second round picks.