Did the Hawks actually win the Cam Reddish trade?

[Swish1906]

Why would the Knicks trade for him if Thibs didn't want him? What was there to be gained?

Were the Duke trio big buddies?

I can see it as a desperation move to lure Zion to NY...

[buckboy]

Did some people think the Knicks won that deal?

Reddish is garbage.

[ForeverTFC]

Thibs will be gone soon.

[kamaze]

Why would the Knicks trade for him if Thibs didn't want him? What was there to be gained?

Were the Duke trio big buddies?

I can see it as a desperation move to lure Zion to NY...

Imagine your team wanting an overweight player

[dockingsched]

Did some people think the Knicks won that deal?

Reddish is garbage.

Was going to ask this. Why would anyone think the Knicks won this trade?

[iLLmatic860]

Did some people think the Knicks won that deal?

Reddish is garbage.

Knox is even worse. Lol So it all comes down to who they draft with the protected 1st. So way to soon. So far Knicks still won the trade

[Tor_Raps]

Thibs will be gone soon.

And that fixes the Knicks problem how? They've had major problems this whole century.

[dirkdiggler4177]

I love that Hawks fans said they won the Luka - Young trade because of Cam, and now they say he was **** the whole time

[ForeverTFC]

Thibs will be gone soon.

And that fixes the Knicks problem how? They've had major problems this whole century.

It doesn't fix their problems but it will give playing time to their younger players. Whole point of this thread is the DNP-CDs for Reddish. Thibs doesn't play young guys.

[buckboy]

Did some people think the Knicks won that deal?

Reddish is garbage.

Knox is even worse. Lol So it all comes down to who they draft with the protected 1st. So way to soon. So far Knicks still won the trade

Well I don't agree. If both players are trash, and one team gave up a first.........

Now, maybe you don't think Reddish is trash, but I think the prevailing thought was always that Atlanta won the trade, which makes this an odd thread. I could be wrong about that part though.

[Tor_Raps]

Thibs will be gone soon.

And that fixes the Knicks problem how? They've had major problems this whole century.

It doesn't fix their problems but it will give playing time to their younger players. Whole point of this thread is the DNP-CDs for Reddish. Thibs doesn't play young guys.

They signed Kemba and Fournier in the offseason. They are obviously trying to win now. It's not like they're rebuilding.

Just a weird dynamic to not have the GM and the coach on the same page. Just when you think they turned the corner, they resort back to their old ways lol.

[ForeverTFC]

And that fixes the Knicks problem how? They've had major problems this whole century.

It doesn't fix their problems but it will give playing time to their younger players. Whole point of this thread is the DNP-CDs for Reddish. Thibs doesn't play young guys.

They signed Kemba and Fournier in the offseason. They are obviously trying to win now. It's not like they're rebuilding.

Just a weird dynamic to not have the GM and the coach on the same page. Just when you think they turned the corner, they resort back to their old ways lol.

Yeah, they should just treat that as sunk cost at this point. I think they're set up to be a cap team in 2023 and If I was them I'd prioritize youth and development of a base they could tack onto over the next 2 years. Will be interesting to see how much they give RJ in his extension.

[Scalabrine]

The Knicks are back to their old ways. How the **** do you give up assets to trade for a player your coach doesn't want to play? Good god

Who do you want them to bench to get Reddish minutes?

I think people are jumping the gun here and we need to wait till after the trade deadline to start crying about this. We have a log jam at every position and I wouldn't be surprised to see some moves to alleviate that a bit. If not, and we're still on the outside looking in of the playoffs, and we're still playing our vets more than our young guys, and Reddish is still on the bench getting DNP's, then I'll start questioning what was the point, but I think we still have another week or two before that really starts to surface.

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The pick is so heavily protected that I don't mind it it being traded. It's not some huge "asset". My bigger critique is why not just use the 19th pick? At best that pick is in the 20's at worst it's two second rounders, so why not just use it on Kai Jones or Keon Johnson or Cam Thomas, or Usman Garuba? I guess when I write it all out, I'd still rather have Cam Reddish on the bench than any of those guys.

[bbalnation]

Thibs is an incredible assistant coach.

Meh situation for Knicks players to be in. Hes not a good head coach relative to his peers- until he shows growth in some of his weaknesses (which, though he's better than he was a decade ago in how he approaches player development & personnel, isn't up to par imo).

[Pointgod]

Anyone that looked at Reddish’s plus minus numbers could see this trade was addition by subtraction. I don’t know why anyone thought Reddish would get even close to a lottery pick. It was a good trade for both teams, but worse for the Knicks considering the dude literally isn’t even playing

[Franco]

The Knicks are back to their old ways. How the **** do you give up assets to trade for a player your coach doesn't want to play? Good god

Who do you want them to bench to get Reddish minutes?

I think people are jumping the gun here and we need to wait till after the trade deadline to start crying about this. We have a log jam at every position and I wouldn't be surprised to see some moves to alleviate that a bit. If not, and we're still on the outside looking in of the playoffs, and we're still playing our vets more than our young guys, and Reddish is still on the bench getting DNP's, then I'll start questioning what was the point, but I think we still have another week or two before that really starts to surface.

Read on Twitter

The pick is so heavily protected that I don't mind it it being traded. It's not some huge "asset". My bigger critique is why not just use the 19th pick? At best that pick is in the 20's at worst it's two second rounders, so why not just use it on Kai Jones or Keon Johnson or Cam Thomas, or Usman Garuba? I guess when I write it all out, I'd still rather have Cam Reddish on the bench than any of those guys.

My biggest concern isn't really that they gave up the pick, nor that Reddish isn't playing because there's legitimately better players (even if they are older) on the roster that he shouldn't get playing time over. I'm questioning the decision of trading for a player that your own coach (reportedly) didn't want to begin with, so if he indeed doesn't get PT after the trade deadline you will essentially have traded for nothing at all.

If it turns out this is bull and the reason he isn't getting PT is really the rotation being too crowded, then I'll gladly eat crow. As fun as it can be to dunk on the Knicks, I don't want an young player's career to be derailed for that.

[Jadoogar]

idk if the Hawks "won" but why did the Knicks trade for him? Are they waiting for the trade deadline before they start giving him minutes?

[GreatWhiteStiff]

I mean its bizarre to trade for a guy when everyone getting minutes is better than him. So you can be like "well everyone's better than him", if that's so why trade anything for him? Some teams play bad players to develop them. Anyways he can still play after the trade deadline or next year or whatever, so I'm not writing off his value.

Sports can be disfuncitonal at time. It reminds me of when Brad Pitt traded some players off the Oakland Athletics to unroster them, because he felt Phlilip Seymour Hoffman was giving them too much PT. This is like the opposite of that, maybe, or its completely different.

[Scalabrine]

The Knicks are back to their old ways. How the **** do you give up assets to trade for a player your coach doesn't want to play? Good god

Who do you want them to bench to get Reddish minutes?

I think people are jumping the gun here and we need to wait till after the trade deadline to start crying about this. We have a log jam at every position and I wouldn't be surprised to see some moves to alleviate that a bit. If not, and we're still on the outside looking in of the playoffs, and we're still playing our vets more than our young guys, and Reddish is still on the bench getting DNP's, then I'll start questioning what was the point, but I think we still have another week or two before that really starts to surface.

Read on Twitter

The pick is so heavily protected that I don't mind it it being traded. It's not some huge "asset". My bigger critique is why not just use the 19th pick? At best that pick is in the 20's at worst it's two second rounders, so why not just use it on Kai Jones or Keon Johnson or Cam Thomas, or Usman Garuba? I guess when I write it all out, I'd still rather have Cam Reddish on the bench than any of those guys.

My biggest concern isn't really that they gave up the pick, nor that Reddish isn't playing because there's legitimately better players (even if they are older) on the roster that he shouldn't get playing time over. I'm questioning the decision of trading for a player that your own coach (reportedly) didn't want to begin with, so if he indeed doesn't get PT after the trade deadline you will essentially have traded for nothing at all.

If it turns out this is bull and the reason he isn't getting PT is really the rotation being too crowded, then I'll gladly eat crow. As fun as it can be to dunk on the Knicks, I don't want an young player's career to be derailed for that.

Very fair...

From everything I've heard and read prior to this report; Rose, Perry, and Thibs are all very aligned and on the same page with the moves that have been made, so I would honestly be very surprised to hear that something has changed. Also, it's worth mentioning that Mark Berman is the one who reported that, and he's known for not being that reliable.

If it's able to sway you, I'm rooting for the Cavs in the East this year. Their sudden emergence and defensive mindset reminds me a lot of the Knicks last year, which for me was such a magical year, so I'm definitely enjoying watching your team...so go easy on us!

[TwitterFingers]

It’s been, what, two weeks? The Knicks are going to give him a chance. We’ll see who the winner of the trade was down the line.