ATL - Trade Deadline 2/10/22

[Jez2983]

I think as a hypothetical fit Simmons is better on Philly, but Beal is certainly an upgrade over DNP Simmons.

I can't see someone coming in and taking 20% of usage on a successful team immediately working, that's for sure. Particularly as those available are not so good defenders.

[blazza18]

Interested in seeing what kind of player Beal is away from Washington.

[machu46]

They're not getting Beal at the deadline for Simmons. You guys haven't been paying attention to recent trends with star players getting dealt. GM's of teams with disgruntled stars are realizing now that the better asset play is to leverage as many future unprotected picks and swaps and as far out as possible.

If I'm Washington, or any organization that's looking at a complete tear down, why would I want an incredibly flawed player like Simmons on a max contract who I know has zero potential to be my franchise cornerstone? At least as the main value piece coming back in the deal? Give me 3 unprotected firsts, and 2 pick swaps spread out over the next 5 years, instead of Simmons and their 2022 1st. Knew right away that Morey botched this when the report leaked that he wouldn't include Maxey and Thybulle. Ever since fleecing OKC for Harden a decade ago, Daryl's been a "have his cake and eat it too" guy despite the GM'ing reality that you always need two to tango.

I agree for the most part, but with Washington, their owner is on public record saying they’ll never bottom out. He wants to be in the playoff race every year. I tend to think Washington is more likely to be buyers at the deadline than selling Beal. We’ll see though; I don’t think there’s any question that trading Beal would be the right thing to do from a team building perspective. Their options at this point are to supermax him, pretty much ensuring they’ll never be good and just making it more difficult to trade him down the line. Or they trade him now and get a good package (be it a total tear down or a Simmons based package), ensuring they’re bad in the short term but giving them a path to success in the long term.


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[greekbuck34]

The Bulls are getting destroyed. 2nd seed here we come.

[Daver]

Does anyone know if the heat is #1 in 3 pt fg% good god seems like every game(tonight no exception 60%) they shoot a amazing clip from 3 pt land.Seems like everyone except bam n butler can launch n make 3s

[Pachinko_]

I can see people being enamored with Luka but I really think he’s just taller fatter Harden.

I'm not sure I go that far, but I can tell you that I would be so frustrated watching him play if I were a Mavs fan. He's a chucker with absolutely atrocious shot selection.

Yes, I'm sure they were so much happier when Harrison Barnes and the corpse of Dirk were their best players

[Pachinko_]

Some of you on this board seriously overrate the Cavs. The Cavs are a good solid playoff team, but holy **** lol. They're not better than Miami and like soxperry said, unless they acquire a Giannis/Embiid/KD level player their ceiling will be limited. Mobley is good, but I highly doubt he reaches MVP level good like Giannis/Embiid/KD..

I don't see any way the Cavs make it out of the first round of the playoffs this season unless they end up playing the Bulls.

I've said it before, I don't worry about the Bulls or Cavs in the playoffs. It's Philly, Brooklyn and Miami that are the real competition.

Raps are gonna murder somebody in the 1st round, they're on a tear

[greekbuck34]

Does anyone know if the heat is #1 in 3 pt fg% good god seems like every game(tonight no exception 60%) they shoot a amazing clip from 3 pt land.Seems like everyone except bam n butler can launch n make 3s

They are shooting only 1% better than us on 3 less attempts but they have much better shooters in general because they make way more difficult shots that the ones we are attemping each game due to Giannis gravity. They have players like Robinson, Herro, Lowry and Strus who are able to shoot pullup 3s after the illegal screens of Bam while we are mostly shooting catch and shoot ones.

[Daver]

Does anyone know if the heat is #1 in 3 pt fg% good god seems like every game(tonight no exception 60%) they shoot a amazing clip from 3 pt land.Seems like everyone except bam n butler can launch n make 3s

They are shooting only 1% better than us on 3 less attempts but they have much better shooters in general because they make way more difficult shots that the ones we are attemping each game due to Giannis gravity. They have players like Robinson, Herro, Lowry and Strus who are able to shoot pullup 3s after the illegal screens of Bam while we are mostly shooting catch and shoot ones.

I cant believe seeing those box scores every night that they shoot only 1% better than us thats amazing. Seems like every game they are mid 40s n we seem to be more in the 30s most nights

[jschligs]

The end of the Suns/Bulls game can **** right off. Gambling is dumb, garbage time is dumb, gosh darn it that was frustrating.

[brettski]

The Bucks are now 2nd in the East.

[AussieBuck]

Miami are way more dangerous this season. Dunno who their bad matchups are buy I hope they catch one in the first round and lose.

[greekbuck34]

Does anyone know if the heat is #1 in 3 pt fg% good god seems like every game(tonight no exception 60%) they shoot a amazing clip from 3 pt land.Seems like everyone except bam n butler can launch n make 3s

They are shooting only 1% better than us on 3 less attempts but they have much better shooters in general because they make way more difficult shots that the ones we are attemping each game due to Giannis gravity. They have players like Robinson, Herro, Lowry and Strus who are able to shoot pullup 3s after the illegal screens of Bam while we are mostly shooting catch and shoot ones.

I cant believe seeing those box scores every night that they shoot only 1% better than us thats amazing. Seems like every game they are mid 40s n we seem to be more in the 30s most nights

Yeah when they are hot, they are really hot but they have some nights when they can't hit anything at all and they are getting destroyed along with their overall percentage similar to a degree with us. They are even more depended on the 3 than us but instead of a "Giannis" as a steady dose of offense each game they have a much better defense to keep them afloat most of the times they are cold from the 3p line.

[WeekapaugGroove]

The end of the Suns/Bulls game can **** right off. Gambling is dumb, garbage time is dumb, gosh darn it that was frustrating.

One of the worst beats you'll ever see.

I lost a bet a week or so back because a wolves player fouled Chris Paul with a couple seconds left in an already decided game because he was pissed that Paul nutmeged him. Haven't made a bet since

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[MoreTrife]

Some of you on this board seriously overrate the Cavs. The Cavs are a good solid playoff team, but holy **** lol. They're not better than Miami and like soxperry said, unless they acquire a Giannis/Embiid/KD level player their ceiling will be limited. Mobley is good, but I highly doubt he reaches MVP level good like Giannis/Embiid/KD..

I don't see any way the Cavs make it out of the first round of the playoffs this season unless they end up playing the Bulls.

I've said it before, I don't worry about the Bulls or Cavs in the playoffs. It's Philly, Brooklyn and Miami that are the real competition.

Raps are gonna murder somebody in the 1st round, they're on a tear

I didn't get to enjoy Raptors being garbage for very long...

[RiotPunch]

The end of the Suns/Bulls game can **** right off. Gambling is dumb, garbage time is dumb, gosh darn it that was frustrating.

Gordon Hayward's glass body cost me $50k tonight. Correctly called Mitchell Robinson going bananas, all for naught with Hayward's deadweight.

[soxperry]

Miami are way more dangerous this season. Dunno who their bad matchups are buy I hope they catch one in the first round and lose.

i think the ideal situation for us is getting the no. 1 with Miami 2 and Toronto 7. Toronto is the team to take out Miami. They have the perimeter defense to do it. Dont think they can beat Philly, though, unfortunately.

I think we are destined for another second round with Brooklyn and Philly in the ECF.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Miami are way more dangerous this season. Dunno who their bad matchups are buy I hope they catch one in the first round and lose.

i think the ideal situation for us is getting the no. 1 with Miami 2 and Toronto 7. Toronto is the team to take out Miami. They have the perimeter defense to do it. Dont think they can beat Philly, though, unfortunately.

I think we are destined for another second round with Brooklyn and Philly in the ECF.

Obviously too early and pointless speculation but are you assuming Brooklyn moves up in a 3-6 seed or just think that upset is best?
My ideal is
1 - MKE
2- Miami
3 - Philly
4 - Chi
5 - Cleveland
6- Toronto
7- Nets
8 - Who cares

Basically, 8th seed -> Chicago -> Nets? ->WC team is the easiest path we could hope for IMO

ETA: Think Toronto is this year's Miami. Yeah they play hard, but hopefully you just overwhelm them with talent in the playoffs when both teams are trying hard.

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[paulpressey25]

^^^^ Sounds like David Griffin believes that the new Portland GM is dumb as a box of rocks after last week's trade.

Then again, maybe David Griffin is so desperate to save his job, he'll be the one overpaying