Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

[Ruzious]

Portland saves $4M, which might get them all the way below the luxtax threshold. That'll probably save them something like $20M in luxtax fees.

It also gets them over $20M in cap room next year, though I don't really know who they'd want to go after.

There's gotta be better ways to save 4 mil. Seems like - if they wanted Lillard to request a trade, this was the way to. If they did this just so they'd be able to afford keeping Simons, it's a pretty stupid move - and I like Simons. Gotta laugh that the only pick they get is a 2025 2nd rounder.

Yeah, it's pretty bad for them long term. That cap room isn't really that useful since they have to resign Simons anyhow. His cap hold is like $12M, leaving them with maybe $8M in useful cap room - less than the MLE.

It really goes to show you how hard it is to build a team around two highly paid guards. With Lillard and McCollum being paid $75M combined, there's just no way to put a good team around them.

I've expected them to trade McCollum for years - for that reason - and because they're such a poor defensive pairing.

[FAH1223]

Portland saves $4M, which might get them all the way below the luxtax threshold. That'll probably save them something like $20M in luxtax fees.

It also gets them over $20M in cap room next year, though I don't really know who they'd want to go after.

There's gotta be better ways to save 4 mil. Seems like - if they wanted Lillard to request a trade, this was the way to. If they did this just so they'd be able to afford keeping Simons, it's a pretty stupid move - and I like Simons. Gotta laugh that the only pick they get is a 2025 2nd rounder.

Yeah, it's pretty bad for them long term. That cap room isn't really that useful since they have to resign Simons anyhow. His cap hold is like $12M, leaving them with maybe $8M in useful cap room - less than the MLE.

It really goes to show you how hard it is to build a team around two highly paid guards. With Lillard and McCollum being paid $75M combined, there's just no way to put a good team around them.

I believe Jody Allen is putting up the team for sale. Double bottom line.

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[gambitx777]

So yes in the grand scheme of things this is A bad trade when you trace this back. Trent Jr and some firsts turned into cap room and a late first rounder from last year and a far off second. That's rough. In the short term I like it for the blazers they get tons of money dumped and get a young piece. The clippers are committing to winning and you gotta like that.

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[nate33]

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Sheppard missed a golden opportunity to exploit the ineptitude of New Orleans front office here. I can't believe how badly Portland just fleeced New Orleans.

Hart, right now, is a better player than McCollum and is paid 35% as much.

It's too bad Portland made that stupid trade with the Clippers. If they had just made this trade and surrounded Lillard with Hart, Powell, Covington, Sato and NAW, they probably could have gotten back on track.

[nate33]

Apparently, Larry Nance is being included, which makes a lot more sense now. Portland is saving a ton on luxtax, and New Orleans is actually getting a good fit to play alongside Zion since Nance can play some center while also stretching the floor.

[pcbothwel]

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Sheppard missed a golden opportunity to exploit the ineptitude of New Orleans front office here. I can't believe how badly Portland just fleeced New Orleans.

Hart, right now, is a better player than McCollum and is paid 35% as much.

It's too bad Portland made that stupid trade with the Clippers. If they had just made this trade and surrounded Lillard with Hart, Powell, Covington, Sato and NAW, they probably could have gotten back on track.

Ehhh. Not really:
- NOP wanted someone under contract, Beal is an expiring
- NOP took on more salary to get PDX under the Tax... if we offered the same we would go over the tax
- Lastly, CJ has really taken a step back this year. You can stuck on his great year last year, but his body of work in 4 of his last 5 years is straight up Dinwiddie territory.

He is a 30 y/o combo guard with poor defense, a ~54% TS, and ~0.5 BPM. With 3/100M left on his deal, I think PDX made a good deal(Though they should of traded him last summer).

[FAH1223]

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Sheppard missed a golden opportunity to exploit the ineptitude of New Orleans front office here. I can't believe how badly Portland just fleeced New Orleans.

Hart, right now, is a better player than McCollum and is paid 35% as much.

It's too bad Portland made that stupid trade with the Clippers. If they had just made this trade and surrounded Lillard with Hart, Powell, Covington, Sato and NAW, they probably could have gotten back on track.

Simons breaking out has done the Blazers a huge favor. If he did last year, they probably don't need to trade for Powell.

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[nate33]

Ehhh. Not really:
- NOP wanted someone under contract, Beal is an expiring
- NOP took on more salary to get PDX under the Tax... if we offered the same we would go over the tax
- Lastly, CJ has really taken a step back this year. You can stuck on his great year last year, but his body of work in 4 of his last 5 years is straight up Dinwiddie territory.

He is a 30 y/o combo guard with poor defense, a ~54% TS, and ~0.5 BPM. With 3/100M left on his deal, I think PDX made a good deal(Though they should of traded him last summer).

We are agreeing. I think PDX fleeced New Orleans. I wish Sheppard had found a way to do so. Not necessarily with Beal, but just recognize that New Orleans is desperate and inept, so any trade is likely to be a good one.

[dckingsfan]

I've expected them to trade McCollum for years - for that reason - and because they're such a poor defensive pairing.

I like the trade for the Blazers in at least one respect. IF Hart moves back to SG - I think a Lillard/Hart pairing could be pretty good.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Halliburton and Heild for Sabonis and a 2nd.

Moral of the story. Draft better, hold better chips to trade.

[Ruzious]

I've expected them to trade McCollum for years - for that reason - and because they're such a poor defensive pairing.

I like the trade for the Blazers in at least one respect. IF Hart moves back to SG - I think a Lillard/Hart pairing could be pretty good.

It was better than their first trade. Good that they got a possible 2022 lotto pick, and I think NAW still has a lot of untapped talent.

[Ruzious]

Halliburton and Heild for Sabonis and a 2nd.

Moral of the story. Draft better, hold better chips to trade.

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

[AFM]

Weren't we interested in Sabonis? I wonder what horrible desperation trade we'll frantically put together now.

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I've expected them to trade McCollum for years - for that reason - and because they're such a poor defensive pairing.

I like the trade for the Blazers in at least one respect. IF Hart moves back to SG - I think a Lillard/Hart pairing could be pretty good.

In "one respect"?? I like it in every respect. They took NO to the cleaners!

Now turn around & trade Beal to Portland for some of what they got for McCollum....

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Halliburton and Heild for Sabonis and a 2nd.

Moral of the story. Draft better, hold better chips to trade.

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

That's an absolute steal for Indy. I cannot believe how inept the Kings are. Wow...!

[AFM]

I don't know what's more terrifying. A horrible panic trade on our end. Or no trade and Beal gets wrist surgery and a supermax.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Rick Carlisle totally got the best out of Sacramento in that trade

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

That Tyrese kid might be in the Hall of Fame someday that was a profoundly stupid trade by the Sacramento Kings

[nate33]

I don't know what's more terrifying. A horrible panic trade on our end. Or no trade and Beal gets wrist surgery and a supermax.

I'm expecting a crappy sign-and-trade deal this summer where we send out Beal and get back Horford, Nesmith and a pick or something like that.

Beal knows he can't win in DC. He just wants to maximize his salary. I don't blame him. The fault is on ownership for not trading him now or at the last Trade Deadline

[payitforward]

I don't know what's more terrifying. A horrible panic trade on our end. Or no trade and Beal gets wrist surgery and a supermax.

I know what's more terrifying -- we could do both!