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Re: Trade Deadline Discussion & Rumours - Raptors and NBA 

Post#961 » by MavCarter » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:43 pm

Dragic is probably going to get bought out if/when hes traded either way
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Post#962 » by positivetension » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:44 pm

Ref_from_hell wrote:
Asif16 wrote:If we get Turner...he's not gonna come off the bench. Its just not gonna happen. Scottie will most likely head to the bench.

I'm a 100% sure of that


The vocal minority here would start a civil war if Barnes went to the bench.

Scottie is the future and he's a tier 1 talent. Benching him in favor of Turner would be silly. If the rumored offer of Dragic and a first is accurate, he shouldn't be supplanting any of the starters.
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Post#963 » by LarSiN » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:44 pm

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Ref_from_hell wrote:
Asif16 wrote:If we get Turner...he's not gonna come off the bench. Its just not gonna happen. Scottie will most likely head to the bench.

I'm a 100% sure of that


The vocal minority here would start a civil war if Barnes went to the bench.

Not sure why, Turner would make the defense better. Barnes will still get a ton of minutes. Truth is he’s prone to mistakes on D, so having Turner start makes sense.


And ironically, a lot of people wanted to give Scottie more run at PG, something he would definitely get on the bench.

But I get it though, I'm also not in a rush to move him out of the lineup. I do think he can work around whatever we need him to do
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Post#964 » by canz55 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:44 pm

Lord Eder wrote:
Asif16 wrote:If we trade Boucher in a deal to get a singular player (Turner)...we obviously upgrade in talent but our bench is still weak sauce and we still dont add any depth.

I think the Raptors are truly just trying to get players for just Dragic + Picks. And maybe some of the lesser guys like Flynn/Yuta/Bonga


I think that's the benefit of moving Boucher for a big that isn't so redundant on the roster. It frees up the Dragic contract to bring in a rotation bench piece.

Turner is harder to make it work because of his contract but Boucher and Flynn for Nurkic and then Dragic for something like Bogdan Bogdanovic/Danilo Gallinari or Harrison Barnes would go a long way in balancing the roster IMO.
Gallinari would be a massive letdown.

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Post#965 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:44 pm

Ref_from_hell wrote:
Tor_Raps wrote:When we traded for Marc Gasol, he came off the bench at first until it became totally obvious he should start over Ibaka.

The same thing would happen if we get Turner/Nurkic. That is how you play things without hurting any chemistry so it's not a big deal. We'd be upping our top end talent which every team that's trying to be good should be doing.


Marc was a veteran, a very savvy veteran. He was also pass 1st and was always looking to get his teammates involved. It's difficult to make that comparison to those two players. Different circumstance.


Not at all. If anything, it's harder for a veteran of Gasol's stature to come off the bench when he's started his whole career. Turner/ Nurkic will be the clear 6th man and working their way towards the starting lineup based on how they play. This is usually how it works in almost any facet of life unless you're a superstar.
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Post#966 » by Lord Eder » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:45 pm

canz55 wrote:
Lord Eder wrote:
Asif16 wrote:If we trade Boucher in a deal to get a singular player (Turner)...we obviously upgrade in talent but our bench is still weak sauce and we still dont add any depth.

I think the Raptors are truly just trying to get players for just Dragic + Picks. And maybe some of the lesser guys like Flynn/Yuta/Bonga


I think that's the benefit of moving Boucher for a big that isn't so redundant on the roster. It frees up the Dragic contract to bring in a rotation bench piece.

Turner is harder to make it work because of his contract but Boucher and Flynn for Nurkic and then Dragic for something like Bogdan Bogdanovic/Danilo Gallinari or Harrison Barnes would go a long way in balancing the roster IMO.
Gallinari would be a massive letdown.

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I agree 100%, he's by far my least favourite option but I think it's a possibility still.
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Post#967 » by T-d0t » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:46 pm

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Ref_from_hell wrote:Do we really want to break up the chemistry of the starting five for Turner? Is he willing to come off the bench?


I wouldn't break it up.
Rather have the best player in the deal. Turner would be good since we are trying to compete.

1 mid 1st + Goran is robbery for a guy like Turner.
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Post#968 » by douggood » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:46 pm

dragic and 1st wont get you enough to upgrade the starting lineup
dragic and 1st is too much to upgrade the bench
thats why its likely going to be dragic + seconds for a bench player
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Post#969 » by Asif16 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:47 pm

Gallinari is a walking bucket, so I wouldn't be too mad. Besides, having anyone who can give solid minutes for a player who isnt even with us, should be a win.

But I agree with the notion that I want something better than just Galinari
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Post#970 » by SurgeIblocka » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:47 pm

positivetension wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:
Asif16 wrote:If we get Turner...he's not gonna come off the bench. Its just not gonna happen. Scottie will most likely head to the bench.

I'm a 100% sure of that


The vocal minority here would start a civil war if Barnes went to the bench.

Scottie is the future and he's a tier 1 talent. Benching him in favor of Turner would be silly. If the rumored offer of Dragic and a first is accurate, he shouldn't be supplanting any of the starters.


This management is the best in the league and world in developing their young basketball talent, we dont need fans crying about who should be starting. Your allstar Fred and Pascal were on the bench for two years so stop spewing this nonsense that Barnes needs to be guaranteed minutes as a starter. Neither Nurse nor Masai gives two shts about public or realgm’s perception of bringing scottie to the bench.
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Post#971 » by Duffman100 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:47 pm

douggood wrote:dragic and 1st wont get you enough to upgrade the starting lineup
dragic and 1st is too much to upgrade the bench
thats why its likely going to be dragic + seconds for a bench player


We should be on the phone with Portland offering that for Josh Hart.
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Post#972 » by SurgeIblocka » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:49 pm

T-d0t wrote:
Madhouse wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:Do we really want to break up the chemistry of the starting five for Turner? Is he willing to come off the bench?


I wouldn't break it up.
Rather have the best player in the deal. Turner would be good since we are trying to compete.

1 mid 1st + Goran is robbery for a guy like Turner.



Fans like Ref would say no to KD on this team because Barnes needs minutes and it would break up the chemistry on this team lol.
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Post#973 » by Asif16 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:50 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
douggood wrote:dragic and 1st wont get you enough to upgrade the starting lineup
dragic and 1st is too much to upgrade the bench
thats why its likely going to be dragic + seconds for a bench player


We should be on the phone with Portland offering that for Josh Hart.


Agreed. Josh Hart is ideal. I was praying the Raptors were like a 3rd team in this deal and ended up getting Josh Hart somehow.

But he fits in Portland pretty well as well. They need defense-first guys and is fairly young.
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Post#974 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:51 pm

Duffman100 wrote:
douggood wrote:dragic and 1st wont get you enough to upgrade the starting lineup
dragic and 1st is too much to upgrade the bench
thats why its likely going to be dragic + seconds for a bench player


We should be on the phone with Portland offering that for Josh Hart.


Hart is pretty awful.
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Post#975 » by Asif16 » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:51 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
Duffman100 wrote:
douggood wrote:dragic and 1st wont get you enough to upgrade the starting lineup
dragic and 1st is too much to upgrade the bench
thats why its likely going to be dragic + seconds for a bench player


We should be on the phone with Portland offering that for Josh Hart.


Hart is pretty awful.


Lol no he's not
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Post#976 » by SurgeIblocka » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:52 pm

Boo hoo the chemistry please dont trade Derozan for Kawhi , Lowry loves him. Same old posters littering this thread
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Post#977 » by SurgeIblocka » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:53 pm

Give us Turner or Bogdan and LETS GOOOO!!
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Post#978 » by Tor_Raps » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:53 pm

Brinbe wrote:omg. hope the turner rumor is true.


What's the Turner rumour? Didn't see it when I was scrolling through this thread.
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Post#979 » by positivetension » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:53 pm

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positivetension wrote:
Ref_from_hell wrote:
The vocal minority here would start a civil war if Barnes went to the bench.

Scottie is the future and he's a tier 1 talent. Benching him in favor of Turner would be silly. If the rumored offer of Dragic and a first is accurate, he shouldn't be supplanting any of the starters.


This management is the best in the league and world in developing their young basketball talent, we dont need fans crying about who should be starting. Your allstar Fred and Pascal were on the bench for two years so stop spewing this nonsense that Barnes needs to be guaranteed minutes as a starter. Neither Nurse nor Masai gives two shts about public or realgm’s perception of bringing scottie to the bench.

I'm not worried something like that would happen due to managements' competence. The team is rolling and they want lineups where everyone can switch. Turner would get exposed on the perimeter and he's a soft player. Too many people watching boxscores and fawning over stats like BPG and not enough people actually watching games.
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Post#980 » by Tha Cynic » Tue Feb 8, 2022 4:53 pm

douggood wrote:dragic and 1st wont get you enough to upgrade the starting lineup
dragic and 1st is too much to upgrade the bench
thats why its likely going to be dragic + seconds for a bench player


It could if you can find a team looking to dump salary.
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