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DusterBuster wrote:Capn'O wrote:Capn'O wrote:
Depends what version of him shows up.
Welp. So much for that. In any event, he was awesome last year. Made more shots but was also quite focused on defense. That guy was great.
Yep, suspense on CJ to NY didn’t last long haha.
I was thinking this ticket was gonna be a banger at the beginning of the season 
Capn'O wrote:Capn'O wrote:DusterBuster wrote:
You’re a great unbiased poster, what’s your thought on Randle to Portland if a CJ for Randle type deal happened. Would Blazer fans immediately hate him?
Depends what version of him shows up.
Welp. So much for that. In any event, he was awesome last year. Made more shots but was also quite focused on defense. That guy was great.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
Randle’s value
Randle, whose four-year extension kicks in next season, insists he is committed to the Knicks. The team may reciprocate the sentiment, if only because they have no other choice.
The reality is, other front offices see what has happened this season, and they are not inundating the Knicks with calls about their top player. Randle’s jump shot has regressed; his efficiency has cratered; his defense and energy have been problematic; and he’s fallen off a season after winning the NBA Most Improved Player and making second-team All-NBA.
The four-year, $117 million extension is not as detrimental as it looks at first glance. For example, his $26.1 million salary next season is only the NBA’s 48th-largest one for 2022-23 — and it will drop a little lower on the list after a few big-time free agents sign expensive, new contracts this summer.
Yet, Randle has fallen off so dramatically this season that the extension is intimidating to other teams. And it’s not so much the dollars as it is the years. The contract runs through 2026
“I don’t see anyone giving up anything of value for him,” one rival executive said. And it’s hard to imagine the Knicks dealing him without a decent return.
Trading Randle now would mean moving on at his lowest point, which is no way to do business. The Knicks would be better off trying to rebuild him. Even if he doesn’t improve at all, if this version of Randle is just the player he is for the rest of his career, the contract will eventually look better. Remember, each day that passes makes that deal one day shorter.
SelbyCobra wrote:Katz:
https://theathletic.com/3117808/2022/02/08/knicks-nba-trade-deadline-primer-are-kemba-walker-and-evan-fournier-most-likely-to-go/Randle’s value
Randle, whose four-year extension kicks in next season, insists he is committed to the Knicks. The team may reciprocate the sentiment, if only because they have no other choice.
The reality is, other front offices see what has happened this season, and they are not inundating the Knicks with calls about their top player. Randle’s jump shot has regressed; his efficiency has cratered; his defense and energy have been problematic; and he’s fallen off a season after winning the NBA Most Improved Player and making second-team All-NBA.
The four-year, $117 million extension is not as detrimental as it looks at first glance. For example, his $26.1 million salary next season is only the NBA’s 48th-largest one for 2022-23 — and it will drop a little lower on the list after a few big-time free agents sign expensive, new contracts this summer.
Yet, Randle has fallen off so dramatically this season that the extension is intimidating to other teams. And it’s not so much the dollars as it is the years. The contract runs through 2026
“I don’t see anyone giving up anything of value for him,” one rival executive said. And it’s hard to imagine the Knicks dealing him without a decent return.
Trading Randle now would mean moving on at his lowest point, which is no way to do business. The Knicks would be better off trying to rebuild him. Even if he doesn’t improve at all, if this version of Randle is just the player he is for the rest of his career, the contract will eventually look better. Remember, each day that passes makes that deal one day shorter.
nedleeds wrote:CJ and his functioning lung is off the table. It's Westbrick or bust to get this anal polyp off our team.
GET IT DONE LEON YOU ORC!
SelbyCobra wrote:Katz:
https://theathletic.com/3117808/2022/02/08/knicks-nba-trade-deadline-primer-are-kemba-walker-and-evan-fournier-most-likely-to-go/Randle’s value
Randle, whose four-year extension kicks in next season, insists he is committed to the Knicks. The team may reciprocate the sentiment, if only because they have no other choice.
The reality is, other front offices see what has happened this season, and they are not inundating the Knicks with calls about their top player. Randle’s jump shot has regressed; his efficiency has cratered; his defense and energy have been problematic; and he’s fallen off a season after winning the NBA Most Improved Player and making second-team All-NBA.
The four-year, $117 million extension is not as detrimental as it looks at first glance. For example, his $26.1 million salary next season is only the NBA’s 48th-largest one for 2022-23 — and it will drop a little lower on the list after a few big-time free agents sign expensive, new contracts this summer.
Yet, Randle has fallen off so dramatically this season that the extension is intimidating to other teams. And it’s not so much the dollars as it is the years. The contract runs through 2026
“I don’t see anyone giving up anything of value for him,” one rival executive said. And it’s hard to imagine the Knicks dealing him without a decent return.
Trading Randle now would mean moving on at his lowest point, which is no way to do business. The Knicks would be better off trying to rebuild him. Even if he doesn’t improve at all, if this version of Randle is just the player he is for the rest of his career, the contract will eventually look better. Remember, each day that passes makes that deal one day shorter.
Stannis wrote:nedleeds wrote:CJ and his functioning lung is off the table. It's Westbrick or bust to get this anal polyp off our team.
GET IT DONE LEON YOU ORC!
If I'm the Lakers and see this, I laugh and put Leon Rose on ignore. Knicks will need to add, at the very least, 2 unprotected first rounders to dump Randle and Fournier.
Knicks should also explore trading Mitch here as well since Lakers are thin at the 5. That'll get them to listen.
Knicks should've traded Mitch two seasons ago, because whatever the Knicks pay him is going to be overkill for what he has to offer. I like Mitch, but the timing is just wrong here for the Knicks to retain him.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
Hes_On_Fire wrote:SelbyCobra wrote:Katz:
https://theathletic.com/3117808/2022/02/08/knicks-nba-trade-deadline-primer-are-kemba-walker-and-evan-fournier-most-likely-to-go/Randle’s value
Randle, whose four-year extension kicks in next season, insists he is committed to the Knicks. The team may reciprocate the sentiment, if only because they have no other choice.
The reality is, other front offices see what has happened this season, and they are not inundating the Knicks with calls about their top player. Randle’s jump shot has regressed; his efficiency has cratered; his defense and energy have been problematic; and he’s fallen off a season after winning the NBA Most Improved Player and making second-team All-NBA.
The four-year, $117 million extension is not as detrimental as it looks at first glance. For example, his $26.1 million salary next season is only the NBA’s 48th-largest one for 2022-23 — and it will drop a little lower on the list after a few big-time free agents sign expensive, new contracts this summer.
Yet, Randle has fallen off so dramatically this season that the extension is intimidating to other teams. And it’s not so much the dollars as it is the years. The contract runs through 2026
“I don’t see anyone giving up anything of value for him,” one rival executive said. And it’s hard to imagine the Knicks dealing him without a decent return.
Trading Randle now would mean moving on at his lowest point, which is no way to do business. The Knicks would be better off trying to rebuild him. Even if he doesn’t improve at all, if this version of Randle is just the player he is for the rest of his career, the contract will eventually look better. Remember, each day that passes makes that deal one day shorter.
What a depressing read.
Exactly my thought after finishing reading it...."damn what a depressing read"....Leon should be fired....I hope New Yorkers and Knick fans do me a favor the rest of the way and mix in some home games were they alternate between booing Randle and chanting "Fire Leon".....Let them have it for this gigantic mess.... HopelessKnick wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:
What a depressing read.
sol537 wrote:Randle, Fournier, Walker to LAL for Westbrook, filler, 2027 1st, 2nd rounder, pick swap.
They can get a 2nd title this year or next with Lebron. They should be going all in... Westbrook is only hurting their chances.
AD + Randle + Lebron + Fournier + a 3&D wing could get them to the promise land, if healthy.
Zenzibar wrote:Nevertheless, Payton is not a finished product yet and unless the team moves him in a couple of weeks, I anticipate him trending upward with this coaching staff.
nedleeds wrote:CJ and his functioning lung is off the table. It's Westbrick or bust to get this anal polyp off our team.
GET IT DONE LEON YOU ORC!
nedleeds wrote:
Pacers also gave up a 2027 2nd.
Hield is slightly negative value, like Fournier.
But I think this indicates at least the Kings see Sabonis as positive value.
Imagine doing this with Randle. I be peeing my pants with joy.
Hes_On_Fire wrote:HopelessKnick wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:
What a depressing read.
Just bring the 'Sell the team' chant back.
Hopefully it will return next year after another losing season.
robillionaire wrote:Hes_On_Fire wrote:HopelessKnick wrote:
Just bring the 'Sell the team' chant back.
Hopefully it will return next year after another losing season.
You know it won’t make him actually sell it right
He’ll just fire someone and replace them with more of his doofus friends
Guano wrote:Fourni3r forgetting he has Bob cousy handles
Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.