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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1221 » by VintageBulls » Mon Feb 7, 2022 7:55 pm

sco wrote:Just a note on Green. His last 4 game averages:

14.3 ppg shooting 58% FG getting 5.8 FT's per game 1.5 blks 1.8 stls 4.5 rb's in 31min.

FebruJavonte!!!

Green is easily one of my favorite bulls on this current team a lot of fun to watch .. To bad we couldn't magically add 3/4 inches to his height
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1222 » by FriedRise » Mon Feb 7, 2022 8:05 pm

VintageBulls wrote:
sco wrote:Just a note on Green. His last 4 game averages:

14.3 ppg shooting 58% FG getting 5.8 FT's per game 1.5 blks 1.8 stls 4.5 rb's in 31min.

FebruJavonte!!!

Green is easily one of my favorite bulls on this current team a lot of fun to watch .. To bad we couldn't magically add 3/4 inches to his height


2 offensive rebounds too. He's our second best offensive rebounder behind Vooch, which is difficult to do for a guy that height who is usually parked on the outside when a shot goes up.

If he were 3/4 inches taller, he'd be the perfect PF for this team. Pat is theoretically that, but obviously doesn't have the same energy level as Javonte. He has a better shot tho from midrange to 3.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1223 » by Almost Retired » Mon Feb 7, 2022 8:27 pm

StunnerKO wrote:Aye wtf

Read on Twitter
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In AK/ME we trust. The kid was taking a really huge step up in competition and most of the posters here wanted to sh** can him one month into the season. He belongs in the G-League for the rest of the season. He needs minutes and the opportunity to learn and improve at that level. Give him an off season to maybe put on 10-15 pounds of functional muscle mass. Bring him into camp next year and let him compete for a roster spot.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1224 » by sco » Mon Feb 7, 2022 8:38 pm

Almost Retired wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Aye wtf

Read on Twitter
?s=21


In AK/ME we trust. The kid was taking a really huge step up in competition and most of the posters here wanted to sh** can him one month into the season. He belongs in the G-League for the rest of the season. He needs minutes and the opportunity to learn and improve at that level. Give him an off season to maybe put on 10-15 pounds of functional muscle mass. Bring him into camp next year and let him compete for a roster spot.

I'm still calling "G-league mirage" on him. But the good news for you is that he already made the roster next season since his deal is guaranteed next season too!
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1225 » by chefo » Mon Feb 7, 2022 10:12 pm

BTW, if you guys thought Lauri looked like a stiff, wait until you see Poetl on O full time... that being said, Poetl is a very good player, and that was before he was scoring in the teens. He's got that Gobert effect when he's on the floor--he's a good shot-blocker, but he also changes quite a few shots as well because he knows how to rotate and moves his feet well for a guy his size. For 20 min / game, he's about as great as a backup big as there is in the league. If the Bulls get him, the need to get a 'PF" with size kind of diminishes because you'll have 48 min of a well-rebounding 'tree' manning the middle. And, he's a really good defender that moves the needle on D so while you can't throw him at Giannis, nobody will be having a layup line with him in the middle.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1226 » by jacoby1us » Mon Feb 7, 2022 10:13 pm

Successful Trade proposal below:

Bulls Trade: PW, DJJ, 2022 1RP
Bulls get: D. Sabonis (From Pacers), K. Nunn (From Lakers)

Lakers Trade: D. Jordan, THT, K, Bazemore, 2023 2RP, 2023 2RP, 2025 1RP
Lakers get: M. Turner (From Pacers)

Pacers Trade: D. Sabonis, M. Turner
Pacers get: D. Jordan (From Lakers expiring), K. Bazemore (From Lakers expiring), DJJ (From Bulls expiring),
THT (From Lakers), P. Williams (From Bulls), 2025 1RP (From Lakers), 2023 2RP (From Lakers via CHI), 2022 1RP (From Bulls via POR), 2023 2RP (From Lakers)
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1227 » by jacoby1us » Mon Feb 7, 2022 10:27 pm

Almost Retired wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Aye wtf

Read on Twitter
?s=21


In AK/ME we trust. The kid was taking a really huge step up in competition and most of the posters here wanted to sh** can him one month into the season. He belongs in the G-League for the rest of the season. He needs minutes and the opportunity to learn and improve at that level. Give him an off season to maybe put on 10-15 pounds of functional muscle mass. Bring him into camp next year and let him compete for a roster spot.



This is good news to hear, maybe they could send Tony Bradley Jr. down so that he can work on his game! We need his size and production off the bench
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1228 » by Rowland Garrett » Mon Feb 7, 2022 11:10 pm

sco wrote:
Almost Retired wrote:
StunnerKO wrote:Aye wtf

Read on Twitter
?s=21


In AK/ME we trust. The kid was taking a really huge step up in competition and most of the posters here wanted to sh** can him one month into the season. He belongs in the G-League for the rest of the season. He needs minutes and the opportunity to learn and improve at that level. Give him an off season to maybe put on 10-15 pounds of functional muscle mass. Bring him into camp next year and let him compete for a roster spot.

I'm still calling "G-league mirage" on him. But the good news for you is that he already made the roster next season since his deal is guaranteed next season too!

I'll say this to second Almost Retired, I saw this potential when I first saw him in the SL.

Obviously needs an off season training. But he showed solid skills and instincts in my opinion. Project for sure.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1229 » by BullChit » Mon Feb 7, 2022 11:17 pm

chefo wrote:BTW, if you guys thought Lauri looked like a stiff, wait until you see Poetl on O full time... that being said, Poetl is a very good player, and that was before he was scoring in the teens. He's got that Gobert effect when he's on the floor--he's a good shot-blocker, but he also changes quite a few shots as well because he knows how to rotate and moves his feet well for a guy his size. For 20 min / game, he's about as great as a backup big as there is in the league. If the Bulls get him, the need to get a 'PF" with size kind of diminishes because you'll have 48 min of a well-rebounding 'tree' manning the middle. And, he's a really good defender that moves the needle on D so while you can't throw him at Giannis, nobody will be having a layup line with him in the middle.


Sounds like the slightly richer man's Kleber...
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1230 » by biggestbullsfan » Wed Feb 9, 2022 1:56 am

biggestbullsfan wrote:I think Milsap would work for us because he isn't asked to be a big piece. But to shore up our front court.

Another name that could be bought out but might interest me: Tristan Thompson. Outside of the personal stuff, I think he could be serviceable as a backup



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Tristan Thompson buyout?

I think it’s more likely to happen now and I think he would be a great stop gap until we get healthier. Probably take him over Milsap right now
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1231 » by PistolP » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:19 am

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Looks like he may be available. I’m not sure what he has left in the tank. He’s averaging 15pts and 13rbs per 36 this year…BUT the advanced stat splits show teams have been worse on both offense and defense with him on the floor the last couple years. It wouldn’t hurt to add some more big man depth while the roster is depleted though
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1232 » by VintageBulls » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:40 am

PistolP wrote:
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Looks like he may be available. I’m not sure what he has left in the tank. He’s averaging 15pts and 13rbs per 36 this year…BUT the advanced stat splits show teams have been worse on both offense and defense with him on the floor the last couple years. It wouldn’t hurt to add some more big man depth while the roster is depleted though

Instant upgrade to Bradley on both talent and toughness
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1233 » by bad knees » Wed Feb 9, 2022 2:55 am

VintageBulls wrote:
PistolP wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like he may be available. I’m not sure what he has left in the tank. He’s averaging 15pts and 13rbs per 36 this year…BUT the advanced stat splits show teams have been worse on both offense and defense with him on the floor the last couple years. It wouldn’t hurt to add some more big man depth while the roster is depleted though

Instant upgrade to Bradley on both talent and toughness



I know he is a large human being and a veteran, but is there any evidence that he is a good player? Because his advance stats are horrible. He hasn’t had a positive DBPM in his career. What am I missing?
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1234 » by LateNight » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:07 am

bad knees wrote:
VintageBulls wrote:
PistolP wrote:
Read on Twitter


Looks like he may be available. I’m not sure what he has left in the tank. He’s averaging 15pts and 13rbs per 36 this year…BUT the advanced stat splits show teams have been worse on both offense and defense with him on the floor the last couple years. It wouldn’t hurt to add some more big man depth while the roster is depleted though

Instant upgrade to Bradley on both talent and toughness



I know he is a large human being and a veteran, but is there any evidence that he is a good player? Because his advance stats are horrible. He hasn’t had a positive DBPM in his career. What am I missing?


The knock on Tristan is that he’s a good offensive rebounder and that’s it. Celtics fans said he “Can’t guard for ****. Can’t screen for ****. Can’t dribble for ****”, can’t make free throws and and is hesitant to pass.

He still might be an OK add for minimum because he’s experienced and we’re hurting - but that’s rough
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1235 » by bad knees » Wed Feb 9, 2022 3:21 am

LateNight wrote:
bad knees wrote:
VintageBulls wrote:Instant upgrade to Bradley on both talent and toughness



I know he is a large human being and a veteran, but is there any evidence that he is a good player? Because his advance stats are horrible. He hasn’t had a positive DBPM in his career. What am I missing?


The knock on Tristan Ian that he’s a good offensive rebounder and that’s it. Celtics fans said he “Can’t guard for ****. Can’t screen for ****. Can’t dribble for ****”, can’t make free throws and and is hesitant to pass.

He still might be an OK add for minimum because he’s experienced and we’re hurting - but that’s rough


You make him sound so desirable. He doesn’t exactly sound like a hub center for our scheme.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1236 » by HomoSapien » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:37 am

I’ve never been a huge Thompson fan, but we’re talking about signing a pretty reliable double-double threat for the minimum here.

I thought Simonovic looked pretty good in the summer league, but have been guilty of **** on him since the season started. He’s looked lost out there, a normally positive Donovan elected to be not positive about him, and there were rumors that this was all a favor to some European agent. All those things combined made me sour on him, but his recent G-League numbers are fantastic. Would be such an unexpected and pleasant surprise if he develops into anything of note.
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1237 » by BullChit » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:39 am

Quick question because i suck at numbers and analytics but Richaun Holmes has a defensive rating of 112.4 - is that a good - average -bad rating?
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1238 » by superdave » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:40 am

BullChit wrote:Quick question because i suck at numbers and analytics but Richaun Holmes has a defensive rating of 112.4 - is that a good - average -bad rating?


That's below average. 110 is average. Closer to 100 is elite defense...
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1239 » by BullChit » Wed Feb 9, 2022 4:44 am

superdave wrote:
BullChit wrote:Quick question because i suck at numbers and analytics but Richaun Holmes has a defensive rating of 112.4 - is that a good - average -bad rating?


That's below average. 110 is average. Closer to 100 is elite defense...


Got it.... Cheers Superdave!
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Re: Options to fix the PF hole 

Post#1240 » by SalmonsSuperfan » Wed Feb 9, 2022 5:14 am

BullChit wrote:
superdave wrote:
BullChit wrote:Quick question because i suck at numbers and analytics but Richaun Holmes has a defensive rating of 112.4 - is that a good - average -bad rating?


That's below average. 110 is average. Closer to 100 is elite defense...


Got it.... Cheers Superdave!

it's a pretty useless stat for an individual player. i mean i think pretty much every advanced defensive stat is pointless and says nothing, but that one especially so. good for a team

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