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[Lamak]

Lol hes really quitting on us

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how do we have constant franchise drama now?

[GYK]

This roster. This support cast. It’s bad.
Contending was not the time to cut salary. Nor was it the time to try to make gimmicks work. Every championship team let alone the dynasties would’ve smashed payroll records. Because there’s no dynasties or championship teams without hood role players. This team solely relies on 3 players. The others don’t bring nothing. Considering the 3 they need to bring spacing, defense, rebounding and length. Letting big contracts like Spencer and DJ walk for nothing was ridiculously foolish. They didn’t fit but they could’ve brought back the role players needed to be the team we wanted to be. Not to mention the bizarre build they went for in the off-season. Stretch bigs and rolling/cutting perimeter players is a niche style which one pairing of players could’ve provided but it shouldn’t be our identity. As seen when Blake and Paul became useless it just means a bunch of non shooters surrounding your core.

We have a day and a half. We have to trade this role players and use the TPE’s.

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

[Prokorov]

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

We are second to the Warriors. He point still stands. we are WAY into the tax. Dinwiddies 20 million would have cost us 78M with the taxes. Tsai isnt being cheap, he is being the opposite. He was willing to give the supermax extension to THREE players.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

They all fit when we have our stars.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you

Correct. it is coaching. We run no offense, just iso... easy to defend. rebounding doesnt matter. 0 of 30 teams care about rebounding. And even so, we added more rebounding then we had last year.

. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Yes, significantly better other then maybe the suns.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

Yes, we are losing to good and bad teams even with KD because we have the worst coach in league history. You dont complain about spacing and then start an undrafted 2-way contract rookie shooting 18% from three.

Rebounding is not a problem. it cant be a problem because it doesnt matter.

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

Our supporting cast was fantastic. great mix of shooting and defense with a Microwave scorer off the bench. You keep harping nonsense about spacing but we had more shooting going into this year then we did last year.

[Hello Brooklyn]

This roster. This support cast. It’s bad.
Contending was not the time to cut salary. Nor was it the time to try to make gimmicks work. Every championship team let alone the dynasties would’ve smashed payroll records. Because there’s no dynasties or championship teams without hood role players. This team solely relies on 3 players. The others don’t bring nothing. Considering the 3 they need to bring spacing, defense, rebounding and length. Letting big contracts like Spencer and DJ walk for nothing was ridiculously foolish. They didn’t fit but they could’ve brought back the role players needed to be the team we wanted to be. Not to mention the bizarre build they went for in the off-season. Stretch bigs and rolling/cutting perimeter players is a niche style which one pairing of players could’ve provided but it shouldn’t be our identity. As seen when Blake and Paul became useless it just means a bunch of non shooters surrounding your core.

We have a day and a half. We have to trade this role players and use the TPE’s.

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

We literally don't have our healthy team.

Harris, Aldridge, Claxton are all great role players that we don't have right now. Marks can't predict injuries.

I think the Nets were pretty deep before the injuries.

[GYK]

This roster. This support cast. It’s bad.
Contending was not the time to cut salary. Nor was it the time to try to make gimmicks work. Every championship team let alone the dynasties would’ve smashed payroll records. Because there’s no dynasties or championship teams without hood role players. This team solely relies on 3 players. The others don’t bring nothing. Considering the 3 they need to bring spacing, defense, rebounding and length. Letting big contracts like Spencer and DJ walk for nothing was ridiculously foolish. They didn’t fit but they could’ve brought back the role players needed to be the team we wanted to be. Not to mention the bizarre build they went for in the off-season. Stretch bigs and rolling/cutting perimeter players is a niche style which one pairing of players could’ve provided but it shouldn’t be our identity. As seen when Blake and Paul became useless it just means a bunch of non shooters surrounding your core.

We have a day and a half. We have to trade this role players and use the TPE’s.

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

Yeah, the idea we didnt have a great offseason and come into the year with a great squad is absurd. Health/Mandate/Nash all killed us.

Marks is at fault for not making a move to patch this current bleeding, but coming in we were great. I mean we started 15-5 WITHOUT Kyrie. A full strneght we beat the 1 seed by 30 points.

Even then I can pull up my post saying what I post now. Winning masking problems. High off wins. This support cast sucks. All along blown out by literally every top team in the league. I never believed in this support cast and constantly said to win it would be a carry job from the 3 as if they were sole stars. Because the others don’t provide anything they need.
I got the hype of the off season for sure. Former all stars joining the team. Listing off their accomplishments as if that’s who they were now. But I never brought into it. It was risky and here we are now. I mean literally the entire team style was reliant on Blake and Paul being able to body up Giannis and stretch the floor. I never wanted to rely on that.

[Prokorov]

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

We literally don't have our healthy team.

Harris, Aldridge, Claxton are all great role players that we don't have right now. Marks can't predict injuries.

I think the Nets were pretty deep before the injuries.

Yeah, i dont get the nonsense being spouted about the offseason.

We replaced Shamet and Tyler Johnson with Mills and Carter. Thats an upgrade. and an absolute steal with Mills.

We added Size and scoring at Center with LMA/Sharpe.

We added defense at Guard with Bembry, who has been fantastic.

We added a stretch big in milsap. who was the same level player as green without the heart issue risk.

We had more shooting, rebounding, and defense coming into the season vs. last year.

We started out 15-5 before injuries started to hit. best start in franchise history

[Prokorov]

Even then I can pull up my post saying what I post now. Winning masking problems. High off wins. This support cast sucks. All along blown out by literally every top team in the league. I never believed in this support cast and constantly said to win it would be a carry job from the 3 as if they were sole stars. Because the others don’t provide anything they need.

Supporting cast is outstanding. We lost to contenders because we were missing 2 starters and have horrible coaching.

I got the hype of the off season for sure. Former all stars joining the team. Listing off their accomplishments as if that’s who they were now.

Mills is every bit of who he was on paper and an upgrade to Shamet. LMA has been one of the best role bigs in the league.

But I never brought into it. It was risky and here we are now. I mean literally the entire team style was reliant on Blake and Paul being able to body up Giannis and stretch the floor. I never wanted to rely on that.

No, it didnt. it wasnt risky, and it was one of the best offseasons of any team in the league. Getting Mills for what we paid was one of the 5 best moves of the offseason. Getting LMA/Bembry/Johnson for the league minimum were all outstanding moves. retaining blake and brown when they could have gotten more elsewhere was low key important also. Draft was solid for where we picked.

it was a great if not elite offseason relative to our ability to spend.

This is up there with Lin > Harden threads from years ago

[GTR11]

This roster. This support cast. It’s bad.
Contending was not the time to cut salary. Nor was it the time to try to make gimmicks work. Every championship team let alone the dynasties would’ve smashed payroll records. Because there’s no dynasties or championship teams without hood role players. This team solely relies on 3 players. The others don’t bring nothing. Considering the 3 they need to bring spacing, defense, rebounding and length. Letting big contracts like Spencer and DJ walk for nothing was ridiculously foolish. They didn’t fit but they could’ve brought back the role players needed to be the team we wanted to be. Not to mention the bizarre build they went for in the off-season. Stretch bigs and rolling/cutting perimeter players is a niche style which one pairing of players could’ve provided but it shouldn’t be our identity. As seen when Blake and Paul became useless it just means a bunch of non shooters surrounding your core.

We have a day and a half. We have to trade this role players and use the TPE’s.

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

Pull it to you plain and simple:
1- HB saying Tsai willing to pay record money for this team is a fact. If 3 stars sign and Joe remains on a team with other role players, GSW will be 20+ m behind us and no other team will come close sniffing. As for highest cap, you really think paying 1 more mil is much of a difference?
2- yes if you not comprehending entire situation, coaching with Kyrie is the reason this team in shambles. How many times do we have to repeat to one's like you that this team looked a lot different than this year? Is it that hard to get it? I mean straight up trolling HB right now. And if you want to go through GT to GT you'd notice we were breaking it down from bottom. It's no coincidence all here agree Nash incompetence costing games now. Yes coach can lose games without stepping up on the court.

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[GYK]

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

We literally don't have our healthy team.

Harris, Aldridge, Claxton are all great role players that we don't have right now. Marks can't predict injuries.

I think the Nets were pretty deep before the injuries.

And I think a healthy Nets roster still couldn’t defend the paint, nor stars, couldn’t rebound and had spacing issues that can’t be solved by one person despite their proclivity.
There’s a chance to trade these role players for fit/need and there’s hesitancy because people like them. Not because of how good they are or how they played but attachment.
There’s a chance to be the best team ever if we also use the TPE’s and we won’t cause of cost. As said we ARE NOT the highest paid team and the only reason we haven’t cause of cost. As if this opportunity comes around often. Every single team in the league would pay to have Durant-Harden-Irving together. That’s not special it’s a given. Are you willing to pay to put a roster around them? Dynasties support cast have always been amazing. Yes I think if we would’ve went for a more traditional 4-1 style team this off-season Harden could’ve carried us through injures through fit, length and rebounding. Something he’s proven he can do. But we didn’t. We went for a novel approach of perimeter rolling/cutting and stretch/skill bigs. Are you willing to pay to win.

Honestly just by contracts Joe, Patty, Bruce and Carter are supposed to be the next 4 most important players to this team. Joe is a good player but I don’t think he ever accomplished being what was needed as the 4th best player/core member to this team. Patty is a fine 6th man. Bruce and Carter are useless. Not to mention all guards for a team built around a backcourt.

[Prokorov]

And I think a healthy Nets roster still couldn’t defend the paint, nor stars, couldn’t rebound and had spacing issues that can’t be solved by one person despite their proclivity.

They could protect the paint. And they did. outstanding in the playoffs. regular season they were #6 in fG% allowed and 7th in TS% allowed. our points allowed issues mostly stemmed from points off turnovers (last). which is as much bad offense as it is bad defense/

Our spacing was elite. I'm not sure how anyone could say others. i mean it doesnt get any better then Harden/Kyrie/Joe/KD.

Rebounding doesnt matter.

There’s a chance to trade these role players for fit/need and there’s hesitancy because people like them. Not because of how good they are or how they played but attachment.

No one cares about these role players. every single poster here would drive Harris/Claxton/Blake/Brown/Bembry or whomever to the airport right now if the trade made sense.

There’s a chance to be the best team ever if we also use the TPE’s and we won’t cause of cost. As said we ARE NOT the highest paid team and the only reason we haven’t cause of cost. As if this opportunity comes around often. Every single team in the league would pay to have Durant-Harden-Irving together. That’s not special it’s a given. Are you willing to pay to put a roster around them? Dynasties support cast have always been amazing. Yes I think if we would’ve went for a more traditional 4-1 style team this off-season Harden could’ve carried us through injures through fit, length and rebounding. Something he’s proven he can do. But we didn’t. We went for a novel approach of perimeter rolling/cutting and stretch/skill bigs. Are you willing to pay to win.

We have one of the best support casts of any big3 team ever. TPEs wont get us anything better then what we have now. you even admitted this when i challenged you in the other thread. there is no shooting out there to be had for the TPE that is any better then we have now.

You cant pay 35+ million for an 11 million player who wont crack the rotation and still doesnt shoot the ball well from three.

Our role players fit perfect. the lack of games played by our big 3 and an awful coach are the issue.

[GYK]

Joe Tsai is paying more for this team than any other team in NBA history.

Your argument makes no sense.

Spencer wanted absurd money. And he sucks on the Wizards. Would have been a dumb move.

Letting DJ walk? What do you mean? He sucked.

The roster is fine. The whole damn team is injured. And the coach sucks.

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

Pull it to you plain and simple:
1- HB saying Tsai willing to pay record money for this team is a fact. If 3 stars sign and Joe remains on a team with other role players, GSW will be 20+ m behind us and no other team will come close sniffing. As for highest cap, you really think paying 1 more mil is much of a difference?
2- yes if you not comprehending entire situation, coaching with Kyrie is the reason this team in shambles. How many times do we have to repeat to one's like you that this team looked a lot different than this year? Is it that hard to get it? I mean straight up trolling HB right now. And if you want to go through GT to GT you'd notice we were breaking it down from bottom. It's no coincidence all here agree Nash incompetence costing games now. Yes coach can lose games without stepping up on the court.

It’s not fact tho. You’re just wrong. They have a higher payroll, they have better role players and eventually will have to sign those role players as well. You’re looking into the future we will have the highest payroll and they will be there too.

Idk why y’all are say this is about Nash. It doesn’t bother me to not be agreement. I never called Marks the GOAT GM either. To me Nash is out there with no shooting, no defense and no rebounding. Idk what y’all want to happen. I do blame him on his clear influence on Marks tho. When building other rosters his blueprint was clearly the Harden Rockets, I believe there was even articles that said so. With Nash all these niche ideas sprung up. Idk what Pop could do with a small team full of non shooters. This is the bench they wanted Harden to stagger with btw. Yup fantastic off season

[GYK]

And I think a healthy Nets roster still couldn’t defend the paint, nor stars, couldn’t rebound and had spacing issues that can’t be solved by one person despite their proclivity.

They could protect the paint. And they did. outstanding in the playoffs. regular season they were #6 in fG% allowed and 7th in TS% allowed. our points allowed issues mostly stemmed from points off turnovers (last). which is as much bad offense as it is bad defense/

Our spacing was elite. I'm not sure how anyone could say others. i mean it doesnt get any better then Harden/Kyrie/Joe/KD.

Rebounding doesnt matter.

There’s a chance to trade these role players for fit/need and there’s hesitancy because people like them. Not because of how good they are or how they played but attachment.

No one cares about these role players. every single poster here would drive Harris/Claxton/Blake/Brown/Bembry or whomever to the airport right now if the trade made sense.

There’s a chance to be the best team ever if we also use the TPE’s and we won’t cause of cost. As said we ARE NOT the highest paid team and the only reason we haven’t cause of cost. As if this opportunity comes around often. Every single team in the league would pay to have Durant-Harden-Irving together. That’s not special it’s a given. Are you willing to pay to put a roster around them? Dynasties support cast have always been amazing. Yes I think if we would’ve went for a more traditional 4-1 style team this off-season Harden could’ve carried us through injures through fit, length and rebounding. Something he’s proven he can do. But we didn’t. We went for a novel approach of perimeter rolling/cutting and stretch/skill bigs. Are you willing to pay to win.

We have one of the best support casts of any big3 team ever. TPEs wont get us anything better then what we have now. you even admitted this when i challenged you in the other thread. there is no shooting out there to be had for the TPE that is any better then we have now.

You cant pay 35+ million for an 11 million player who wont crack the rotation and still doesnt shoot the ball well from three.

Our role players fit perfect. the lack of games played by our big 3 and an awful coach are the issue.

I feel you.

[Prokorov]

Idk why y’all are say this is about Nash. It doesn’t bother me to not be agreement. I never called Marks the GOAT GM either. To me Nash is out there with no shooting, no defense and no rebounding.

He has elite offense, elite shooting, and above average defense. rebounding doesnt matter.

I mean, the team set the ALL-TIME RECORD for offense last year. but your telling me nash doesnt have offense? We came into the season with Harden/Kyrie/KD/Harris/Mills... all ELITE high volume three point shooters and then also Carter (38%) and a decent stretch big in mills and Blake who shot well the last couple years. that is more shooting then almost anyone in the entire league

Idk what y’all want to happen. I do blame him on his clear influence on Marks tho. When building other rosters his blueprint was clearly the Harden Rockets, I believe there was even articles that said so. With Nash all these niche ideas sprung up. Idk what Pop could do with a small team full of non shooters. This is the bench they wanted Harden to stagger with btw. Yup fantastic off season

Roster construction was perfect. Pop would have this team 20 games over .500. its hard to be a stuggling offense with Harden and KD but somehow nash managed that. Nash does nothing well as a coach. no offensive system, no adjustments, doesnt attack opponent weaknesses, doesnt play to our own players strengths. horrific rotations. ignroes the hot hand. keeps doing things if they arent working. misues of timeouts and challenges.

I mean, it could not possible be more clear he costs us tons and tons of games. in every game thread we spell it out in extreme detail.

[GTR11]

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

Pull it to you plain and simple:
1- HB saying Tsai willing to pay record money for this team is a fact. If 3 stars sign and Joe remains on a team with other role players, GSW will be 20+ m behind us and no other team will come close sniffing. As for highest cap, you really think paying 1 more mil is much of a difference?
2- yes if you not comprehending entire situation, coaching with Kyrie is the reason this team in shambles. How many times do we have to repeat to one's like you that this team looked a lot different than this year? Is it that hard to get it? I mean straight up trolling HB right now. And if you want to go through GT to GT you'd notice we were breaking it down from bottom. It's no coincidence all here agree Nash incompetence costing games now. Yes coach can lose games without stepping up on the court.

It’s not fact tho. You’re just wrong. They have a higher payroll, they have better role players and eventually will have to sign those role players as well. You’re looking into the future we will have the highest payroll and they will be there too.

Idk why y’all are say this is about Nash. It doesn’t bother me to not be agreement. I never called Marks the GOAT GM either. To me Nash is out there with no shooting, no defense and no rebounding. Idk what y’all want to happen. I do blame him on his clear influence on Marks tho. When building other rosters his blueprint was clearly the Harden Rockets, I believe there was even articles that said so. With Nash all these niche ideas sprung up. Idk what Pop could do with a small team full of non shooters. This is the bench they wanted Harden to stagger with btw. Yup fantastic off season

Unbelievable
1m is not difference maker period. GSW have 7 core players signed on long term deals. Only Wiggins out those seven contract year next year. Filling rest of the team with vet min won't move salary much from what it is now.

Nets have only 2 players signed long term. KD and Joe. Both Kyrie and Harden eligible for super max contracts, Nic is FA, Kess need roster spot and contract by the end of this year, Blake FA, Patty PO, Bambry FA, LMA FA etc etc. Nets will be at least 20 million above closest team that hard capped. It's simple math.

This team was holding #1 seed for quite some time for a good reason. Even Nash couldn't sink it until recently with Kyrie return. Harden with less talent last year won vs better teams alone and was MVP while doing so. Those role players from last year either out the league or can't find consistent min. This roster is good enough to spank any team out there, it's the other issues ( Kyrie and Nash ) that causing entire ship to sink. For f*** sake we got 2 and 3 best players avoiding each other at the moment. If you think it's role players than you clearly have damn clue what you talking about.

[GYK]

Pull it to you plain and simple:
1- HB saying Tsai willing to pay record money for this team is a fact. If 3 stars sign and Joe remains on a team with other role players, GSW will be 20+ m behind us and no other team will come close sniffing. As for highest cap, you really think paying 1 more mil is much of a difference?
2- yes if you not comprehending entire situation, coaching with Kyrie is the reason this team in shambles. How many times do we have to repeat to one's like you that this team looked a lot different than this year? Is it that hard to get it? I mean straight up trolling HB right now. And if you want to go through GT to GT you'd notice we were breaking it down from bottom. It's no coincidence all here agree Nash incompetence costing games now. Yes coach can lose games without stepping up on the court.

It’s not fact tho. You’re just wrong. They have a higher payroll, they have better role players and eventually will have to sign those role players as well. You’re looking into the future we will have the highest payroll and they will be there too.

Idk why y’all are say this is about Nash. It doesn’t bother me to not be agreement. I never called Marks the GOAT GM either. To me Nash is out there with no shooting, no defense and no rebounding. Idk what y’all want to happen. I do blame him on his clear influence on Marks tho. When building other rosters his blueprint was clearly the Harden Rockets, I believe there was even articles that said so. With Nash all these niche ideas sprung up. Idk what Pop could do with a small team full of non shooters. This is the bench they wanted Harden to stagger with btw. Yup fantastic off season

Unbelievable
1m is not difference maker period. GSW have 7 core players signed on long term deals. Only Wiggins out those seven contract year next year. Filling rest of the team with vet min won't move salary much from what it is now.

Nets have only 2 players signed long term. KD and Joe. Both Kyrie and Harden eligible for super max contracts, Nic is FA, Kess need roster spot and contract by the end of this year, Blake FA, Patty PO, Bambry FA, LMA FA etc etc. Nets will be at least 20 million above closest team that hard capped. It's simple math.

This team was holding #1 seed for quite some time for a good reason. Even Nash couldn't sink it until recently with Kyrie return. Harden with less talent last year won vs better teams alone and was MVP while doing so. Those role players from last year either out the league or can't find consistent min. This roster is good enough to spank any team out there, it's the other issues ( Kyrie and Nash ) that causing entire ship to sink. For f*** sake we got 2 and 3 best players avoiding each other at the moment. If you think it's role players than you clearly have damn clue what you talking about.

No it’s not a major difference but absolutely is when you picked better role players. Here’s the fact it cost more to have our 3 than any other 3. Deciding not to pay for their role players isn’t their fault.

Yup they were in 1st. What was the problems they faced even then? Were they not getting blown out by every contender? Wasn’t it 1-10 against .500 and above?

No I’m pretty sure I know this team for two seasons we been bad at defending and rebounding. Know all season we had a lack of shooting. I’m pretty confident in my basketball knowledge. I wasn’t one of those idiots saying you could win with a bad defense. I know a bad roster when I see it. They can’t shoot. To small and never were talented enough to defend the perimeter or paint. To small to rebound. You’ll never be confident swapping the unit in without a star. One at a time around the Big3 they provide a niche eh. I don’t see how y’all so high on this support cast and saying it’s top of the league. But not once have y’all said who they are better than. Because that would easily be disproven. Denver stars are out and they roll because they prioritized length and shooting when picking their cast. Like the Warriors did and rolling even before Klay returned.

[MrDollarBills]

Do people understand how bad you have to be to lose 9 games in a row?

Its literally reserved for the worst teams in the league. And we just lose like its our job. So humliating.

I hate being a fan of this team. Idk why I care so much.

losing 9 games in a row and alot of the last few losses have been 20+ point losses, something is definitely going wrong in the locker room

Of course something is wrong. But we have people on here who are in complete denial that the locker room is a toxic sh*t show ever since Kyrie came back

[MrDollarBills]

That’s not true. Warriors have the top payroll and are in the repeater at that. Idk why you said that.

My argument literally mentions those guys didn’t fit but getting nothing in return for them is foolish.

Ah it’s coaching why we can’t defend nor space nor rebound. It’s not personnel. Got you. Do you feel this support cast is as good as the other contenders? Denver? Warriors? Suns? Jazz? Clippers been without their stars all season and spacing and length haven’t been compromised.

Were we not losing to contenders with Durant and Harden? Were they not blowouts? Was spacing not a concern then? If I recall we couldn’t stop a single star from dominating. Has rebounding not been a problem since last season?

We clearly view these situations differently. You believe as long as players A and B are together it doesn’t matter who they play with. I believe the Bulls, Warriors, Celtics and Showtime all had the best support cast. Other teams have stars bruh. Ours might be better but the gap is more than made up by others support units.

We literally don't have our healthy team.

Harris, Aldridge, Claxton are all great role players that we don't have right now. Marks can't predict injuries.

I think the Nets were pretty deep before the injuries.

Yeah, i dont get the nonsense being spouted about the offseason.

We replaced Shamet and Tyler Johnson with Mills and Carter. Thats an upgrade. and an absolute steal with Mills.

We added Size and scoring at Center with LMA/Sharpe.

We added defense at Guard with Bembry, who has been fantastic.

We added a stretch big in milsap. who was the same level player as green without the heart issue risk.

We had more shooting, rebounding, and defense coming into the season vs. last year.

We started out 15-5 before injuries started to hit. best start in franchise history

And during that start, we got beat by MIL, CHI, GSW, and PHO.

All blow out losses.

The red flags were evident early on that this was headed to a bad place.

[MrDollarBills]

Lol hes really quitting on us

Read on Twitter

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The idea he is quitting/tanking/dogging is utterly absurd.

Maybe he wants to leave in the offseason if we dont win a title
Maybe he would be happy being traded to philly now

He still is fine being here and putting in the effort... guys who quit dont play hurt.

....he's literally not playing anymore.

Either way, I don't blame him for wanting out of here. Nash sucks, Kyrie doesn't care about winning, Marks is asleep at the wheel. This is a losing situation and Harden has decided not to kill himself playing 40 mins a night trying to carry this garbage roster while Kyrie sits at home half the time

You are in denial.

[HardenGoat]

Do people understand how bad you have to be to lose 9 games in a row?

Its literally reserved for the worst teams in the league. And we just lose like its our job. So humliating.

I hate being a fan of this team. Idk why I care so much.

losing 9 games in a row and alot of the last few losses have been 20+ point losses, something is definitely going wrong in the locker room

Uh yeah! Best player got hurt. Plus the second leader on the team started failing from the minutes already on him and decided he wasn't going to put up with another certain player "leader" coming and going as he pleased ever since the start of a chip run last year. For all we know the decision by Kyrie wasn't based on anything other than an excuse to continue doing that. Speculate all you want, was it legal? Yes. Was is a personal decision? Of course. Did it in any way benefit the team or the health of people around him. No. Did it actually hurt the team he said he would do anything it takes to win a chip, YES! I can't say Iam happy with Harden and the decision to quit, Iam not. I think he should keep trying maybe force a minutes restriction in some way if that's possible. I understand he is 33 and has a short window to get a chip and want's that more than anything. I do think he feels betrayed by certain promises that were made and that is the thing he can't fix in his mind which is affecting him giving 100 percent or even being capable of it consciously.