LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

[AussieBuck]

You think a Portis/Lebron/Connaughton big man rotation could be better than laughably bad on D in 2022? I know this is the weird Lebron fans enclave somehow squatting on the PC board but be a bit realistic.

You said the Bucks would be a disgustingly bad team with LeBron.. That would get you an eye roll anywhere on this site.

I think you realise it was indefensible as you then made it seem like I was questioning some different proposition.

Oh I left out the defense part of that post. My bad, they'd be battling it out with the Hawks for a play in spot due to the terrible defense and lack of any rebounding.

[RCM88x]

I'm not sure if Giannis is "so much better" than Lebron. But he's definitely "so much better" than Davis at this point.

Basically twice the player AD is on both sides of the ball, if not more.

[picko]

All-time scoring (regular season + playoffs):

Kareem: 44,149 (1,797 games)
LeBron: 44,101 (1,614 games)

In roughly two-games, LeBron will have scored more points than any other player in league history.

[Greyhound]

Giannis is so much better than Lebron and Davis, crazy

Is he “so much better” than LeBron or is he just playing 5 out at all times with a bunch of smart defenders and passers while the other guy is playing out of position in 28th percentile spacing with 2-3 lineup anchors at a time all game?

He is

He is better (as he should be, considering the stage each is at in their careers).

The “so much better” assertion is nonsense. He is in a better situation on a team that makes it harder to just pack the paint on him. He also gets a favorable superstar whistle that LeBron could not dream of getting.

One benefits from excellent team construction, while the other plays on a team that’s poorly constructed.

[TroubleS0me]

I'm not sure if Giannis is "so much better" than Lebron. But he's definitely "so much better" than Davis at this point.

Basically twice the player AD is on both sides of the ball, if not more.

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[PistolPeteJR]

I'm not sure if Giannis is "so much better" than Lebron. But he's definitely "so much better" than Davis at this point.

Basically twice the player AD is on both sides of the ball, if not more.

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Legit don't even know what to say to this.

[JN61]

Is he “so much better” than LeBron or is he just playing 5 out at all times with a bunch of smart defenders and passers while the other guy is playing out of position in 28th percentile spacing with 2-3 lineup anchors at a time all game?

He is

Nah I don't see it. Replace Giannis with Bron on that team and they are favourites.

LeBron playing the same defense he did for the Lakers? Extremely bad take. Gap between Giannis and LeBron is monumental. Giannis plays every night DPOY level defense and better offense than LeBron...

[homecourtloss]

Last three games : 64 FGAs, 9 FTA.

[nzahir]

Maybe we get our prayers answered by tomorrow with Russ

If it a dumb deal like Russ and 1st for Wall though, I rather just not do it and tell Russ you are coming off the bench

[trickshot]

Russ, on this moment:

I told them I wished I could help them. But I wasn't in the game to help them out... But that's not my call.

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When asked if he knows the benchmarks he has to hit to make the Lakers’ closing lineup, Russell Westbrook said:

“I shouldn’t have to hit any benchmarks, to be honest. I put a lot of work in. I got a lot of respect in this game. … I earned the right to be in closing lineups.”

TIME TO **** GO

The reality turned out funnier than the captions. You gotta admit that was pretty funny. Westbrook is straight sitcom, unintentionally. Should probably reconsider the criteria for that Wall trade from who's the better player to who can sit on the bench the best. I don't see Wall telling guys "You lost without me and don't you forget it".

[trickshot]

As much as they may be to blame I also feel bad for Lebron and AD because they put their name on the line to vouch for a personal friend and this was what they got.

[D.Brasco]

All-time scoring (regular season + playoffs):

Kareem: 44,149 (1,797 games)
LeBron: 44,101 (1,614 games)

In roughly two-games, LeBron will have scored more points than any other player in league history.

I can remember when people used to talk about Kareem's point record like Stockton's assist one, like it couldn't be beaten.

[Freighttrain]

That team Giannis has is soo much better than the crap we're dealing with. Don't get the hyperboles coming out after this game as if Giannis made a statement. We suck as a team and they have a great team. It's not some goliath vs goliath team we''re seeing here. Giannis owns AD though.

[Greyhound]

Last three games : 64 FGAs, 9 FTA.

Including numerous clear hacks at the basket over that span of games.

The squadron of media throat lozenges will tell us that it’s because he is “so big and strong”, “so hard to officiate”…

Even though there does not seem to be any issue officiating other big and strong players.

[letskissbro]

You think a Portis/Lebron/Connaughton big man rotation could be better than laughably bad on D in 2022? I know this is the weird Lebron fans enclave somehow squatting on the PC board but be a bit realistic.

You said the Bucks would be a disgustingly bad team with LeBron.. That would get you an eye roll anywhere on this site.

I think you realise it was indefensible as you then made it seem like I was questioning some different proposition.

Oh I left out the defense part of that post. My bad, they'd be battling it out with the Hawks for a play in spot due to the terrible defense and lack of any rebounding.

And with Giannis the Lakers would be 30th in offense and not even vying for a play-in spot. If all it took was Eric Bledsoe's man cheating to shut Giannis down in the playoffs he'd look like JaVale McGee with handles on the Lakers.

[McBubbles]

You said the Bucks would be a disgustingly bad team with LeBron.. That would get you an eye roll anywhere on this site.

I think you realise it was indefensible as you then made it seem like I was questioning some different proposition.

Oh I left out the defense part of that post. My bad, they'd be battling it out with the Hawks for a play in spot due to the terrible defense and lack of any rebounding.

And with Giannis the Lakers would be 30th in offense and not even vying for a play-in spot. If all it took was Eric Bledsoe's man cheating to shut Giannis down in the playoffs he'd look like JaVale McGee with handles on the Lakers.

Everytime I read one of your comments you manage to get a chuckle out of me lol.

[Mos_Heat]

You said the Bucks would be a disgustingly bad team with LeBron.. That would get you an eye roll anywhere on this site.

I think you realise it was indefensible as you then made it seem like I was questioning some different proposition.

Oh I left out the defense part of that post. My bad, they'd be battling it out with the Hawks for a play in spot due to the terrible defense and lack of any rebounding.

And with Giannis the Lakers would be 30th in offense and not even vying for a play-in spot. If all it took was Eric Bledsoe's man cheating to shut Giannis down in the playoffs he'd look like JaVale McGee with handles on the Lakers.

Nah, more likely 28th on offense, but probably top 10 on defense, so a better team overall

[yoyoboy]

LeBron + Davis + Westbrook:
-1.45 Net Rating
346 MP

LeBron + Davis, Westbrook Off:
-0.34 Net Rating
134 MP

Sure, Westbrook hasn’t been good and is a pretty awful fit on this roster, but the nonstop aggressive attacks and blame for the Laker’ failure this season that this dude has been getting from fans and media is so pathetic. This Lakers team sucks. They would suck without Westbrook. The role players are too old or just not that good. Davis and LeBron are playing well below their standards and their effort levels and defense aren’t there. Their lack of leadership and their passive aggressive attitudes aren’t helping anybody. I’ve never even been the biggest Russ fan but all of this is making me more sympathetic towards the guy. I hope LA trades him, just so people realize that the Lakers’ issues extend far beyond his play. It’s also hilarious how LeBron and David have been acting given they’re the ones who made the call to bring Russ in in the first place. Take some damn responsibility.

[trickshot]

LeBron + Davis + Westbrook:
-1.45 Net Rating
346 MP

LeBron + Davis, Westbrook Off:
-0.34 Net Rating
134 MP

Sure, Westbrook hasn’t been good and is a pretty awful fit on this roster, but the nonstop aggressive attacks and blame for the Laker’ failure this season that this dude has been getting from fans and media is so pathetic. This Lakers team sucks. They would suck without Westbrook. The role players are too old or just not that good. Davis and LeBron are playing well below their standards and their effort levels and defense aren’t there. Their lack of leadership and their passive aggressive attitudes aren’t helping anybody. I’ve never even been the biggest Russ fan but all of this is making me more sympathetic towards the guy. I hope LA trades him, just so people realize that the Lakers’ issues extend far beyond his play. It’s also hilarious how LeBron and David have been acting given they’re the ones who made the call to bring Russ in in the first place. Take some damn responsibility.

As someone who has been saying the roster sucks for a while those two things aren't mutually exclusive. The roster makes it so that the stars are operating on very slim margins but make no mistake Westbrook is falling well short of the required individual margin of contribution. There's team record, then there's individual play and Westbrook isn't helping himself on the latter front.

Lastly there have been no passive aggressive attacks from Lebron or AD or lack of leadership. This is Westbrook getting free victim points for his own poor play. They've backed him at every opportunity and done what they could. The coach was on the verge of being fired and it's Westbrook using passive aggressive attacks on the decision to bench him. Lebron has been trying to support Vogel but it's becoming a pick one situation because Westbrook makes no effort to run a single element of their defensive scheme. We can talk about Lebron and AD's defensive effort as well but they bring the goods on the other end. You need to tick at least one box to get a pass card.

[yoyoboy]

LeBron + Davis + Westbrook:
-1.45 Net Rating
346 MP

LeBron + Davis, Westbrook Off:
-0.34 Net Rating
134 MP

Sure, Westbrook hasn’t been good and is a pretty awful fit on this roster, but the nonstop aggressive attacks and blame for the Laker’ failure this season that this dude has been getting from fans and media is so pathetic. This Lakers team sucks. They would suck without Westbrook. The role players are too old or just not that good. Davis and LeBron are playing well below their standards and their effort levels and defense aren’t there. Their lack of leadership and their passive aggressive attitudes aren’t helping anybody. I’ve never even been the biggest Russ fan but all of this is making me more sympathetic towards the guy. I hope LA trades him, just so people realize that the Lakers’ issues extend far beyond his play. It’s also hilarious how LeBron and David have been acting given they’re the ones who made the call to bring Russ in in the first place. Take some damn responsibility.

As someone who has been saying the roster sucks for a while those two things aren't mutually exclusive. The roster makes it so that the stars are operating on very slim margins but make no mistake Westbrook is falling well short of the required individual margin of contribution.

Lastly there have been no passive aggressive attacks from Lebron or AD or lack of leadership. This is Westbrook getting free victim points. They've backed him at every opportunity and done what they could. If you haven't noticed the coach was on the verge of being fired and it's Westbrook using passive aggressive attacks on the decision to bench him. Lebron has been trying to support Vogel but it's becoming a pick one situation because Westbrook makes no effort to run a single element of their defensive scheme. We can talk about Lebron and AD's defensive effort as well but they bring the goods on the other end.

This is just absolutely not true. When you watch them play on the court, I don’t know how you could come away from these games not noticing LeBron’s awful attitude on the court towards teammates when they miss shots or when there’s a team breakdown on the defensive end. Or when he and Davis don’t even bother getting back on defense because the Lakers didn’t score on offense. Just watch the Bucks game again last night alone. It happened constantly.

Attitude and team chemistry matters. It’s something I’ve come to appreciate more than ever watching my Cavs this season because it’s clear how much more energy guys play with when everybody believes in each other and likes each other. LeBron and Davis just haven’t been good leaders this season on the court, and off the court, they have no reason to be upset with anyone about the roster situation considering the huge role they played in it.