James Harden Wants To Be Traded To Philadelphiia; Won’t Formally Demand Trade Due To Public Backlash

[JujitsuFlip]

Get it done lol

[DusterBuster]

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What a mess... it's next to impossible for anyone to tell who's got the correct into with so much contradictory statements flying around.

[Arsenal]

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Transparent negotiating leak via Nets. They're unhappy w/Morey's offer of Ben straight up and want more.

[liquidswords]

Is anyone really scared of KD and Ben Simmons in the playoffs? Let’s ignore Kyrie because he’s a part time player. But does Miami, Milwaukee, Bulls or Sixers lose sleep having to play Simmons and KD? Do the Cavs and Raptors even worry about them? KD+Harden is actually a fearsome because you know those two at the top of their game could carry a team for a couple of rounds. The point is that the Nets are just better off keeping Harden and tinkering around the edges of their roster is better than essentially giving up on their season by trading for Simmons and not getting enough compensation to make it worth it.

Harden wants out. He's ready to torpedo the rest of the season if they don't move him.

So it makes no sense to hold onto him.

He may want out, but there's nothing to say he would torpedo the rest of their season? What possible benefit would that be to him - especially going into FA. Why wouldn't he just play out the rest of the season - hope for the best, then just bolt as a FA?

Becauseeeee even if he plays, he's not going to be 100% invested. Probably more like 50% invested. Its in BKN's best interest to trade him NOW and salvage what they have with KD, Irving and the piece(s) they get back in a Harden trade. This league and players has proven to be completely unpredictable so you have to control your own situation as best as possible.

[DusterBuster]

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Transparent negotiating leak via Nets. They're unhappy w/Morey's offer of Ben straight up and want more.

LMAO, as though Morey doesn't do the same ****. gtfo with that.

[Mamba81p]

OKC has no cap space in the summer. Get your facts right.

Do you ever get tired of being wrong? I understand desperation is setting in, but this is sad

OKC has $75M committed next season, which includes Kemba's $28M dead cap.

Which leaves them over $40M in cap room. More than enough to take Simmons or Harris.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/oklahoma-city-thunder/yearly/cap/

Does that 75 million include Derek Favor’s 10 million dollar contract that he’ll certainly opt into and the team options? That number also doesn’t include the caphold for the first round picks OKC has next season. Which is to say that no they don’t have 40 million in cap room. Probably about half of that.

If Favors opts out they could create around 20 mil in cap space. They are not going to renounce their young guys or their top pick, just to eat Harris' contract. That's asinine.

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Transparent negotiating leak via Nets. They're unhappy w/Morey's offer of Ben straight up and want more.

LMAO, as though Morey doesn't do the same ****. gtfo with that.

I trust Woj more than anyone. Someone is desperate here, not sure who, but this is getting funny

[ocelot17]

Durant is not sticking around to play with Simmons and part time kyrie.

Expect Durant to force a trade this offseason.

[BullyKing]

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Transparent negotiating leak via Nets. They're unhappy w/Morey's offer of Ben straight up and want more.

LMAO, as though Morey doesn't do the same ****. gtfo with that.

Of course he does it just like everyone does. Who was saying he doesn't? You have a truly bizarre obsession with Morey and the Simmons situation.

[Pointgod]

Is anyone really scared of KD and Ben Simmons in the playoffs? Let’s ignore Kyrie because he’s a part time player. But does Miami, Milwaukee, Bulls or Sixers lose sleep having to play Simmons and KD? Do the Cavs and Raptors even worry about them? KD+Harden is actually a fearsome because you know those two at the top of their game could carry a team for a couple of rounds. The point is that the Nets are just better off keeping Harden and tinkering around the edges of their roster is better than essentially giving up on their season by trading for Simmons and not getting enough compensation to make it worth it.

Yea, I've said for awhile KD and Simmons seem like a terrible fit together. But I do get it from the Nets POV, if they don't do this, they lose all the assets they moved to get Harden for nothing. That said, I find it funny how much they're trying to still get more if they're really under the kind of pressure Windhorst is claiming. You would think they would be happy just doing a straight swap and calling it a day.

If I'm the Sixers at this point, I would just move Simmons for expirings and picks right now to signal that the plan is to give the Nets nothing and take Harden from them in FA.

The Nets aren’t under the pressure the Windy is saying. Not saying that Windhorst is lying, dude is credible and legit, but honestly just look at it from a Nets perspective and not a fan perspective. They know Morey can’t sign Harden out right, they also know the Morey has no more avenues to unload Simmons since Portland and Sacramento have made their big moves and right now Morey has tied himself to Harden. If the best offer right now is Green and Harden, then who’s to say that offer won’t be their in the summer? Morey isn’t going to go through some convulted process to unload Simmons and Harris when Harden gets the most money in a sign and trade and Simmons is on the roster.

If the Nets asking for Simmons, Curry, Drummond, Thybulle is true, that trade should have been done yesterday. It’s a laughably low price for Harden who I guarantee will go back to playing like a top 5 player next to Embiid. Right now from the Nets perspective it’s not like Morey is offering anything that you couldn’t get in the offseason so why the rush to land Danny Green and Ben Simmons and in the process piss off KD and torpedo your season.

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This is Marks negotiating through Woj.

[Mauro Pedrosa]

Kyrie, Simmons, Thybulle, Mills - team Australia

[DusterBuster]

Transparent negotiating leak via Nets. They're unhappy w/Morey's offer of Ben straight up and want more.

LMAO, as though Morey doesn't do the same ****. gtfo with that.

I trust Woj more than anyone. Someone is desperate here, not sure who, but this is getting funny

Yeah, I trust him more too, but to think one team is just transparently leaking negotiations while the other isn't is silly. All these reporters like Windy, Woj, Shams, etc... they're all getting used right now by Marks and Morey. It's impossible to tell whos version of the story is closest to the truth.

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This is Marks negotiating through Woj.

And Morey is negotiating through Windhorst...

[DemonWolf]

Is it just me thinking Simmons for Harden straight up actually improves the Nets????

[Madhouse]

There won't be a trade.

[Claud]

From Nets POV, I'd rather wait and see what happens with the big 3. We're at rock bottom, only way is up.

If it doesn't work out at least we gave it a final go. If Harden wants Philly, he can go in the summer.
As stated before, Harden wants all his money which means it would have to be a sign and trade anyway so it's the same thing in the end.

Simmons/Curry is not good enough.

[DusterBuster]

Is it just me thinking Simmons for Harden straight up actually improves the Nets????

It's just you.

[Mamba81p]

LMAO, as though Morey doesn't do the same ****. gtfo with that.

I trust Woj more than anyone. Someone is desperate here, not sure who, but this is getting funny

Yeah, I trust him more too, but to think one team is just transparently leaking negotiations while the other isn't is silly. All these reporters like Windy, Woj, Shams, etc... they're all getting used right now by Marks and Morey. It's impossible to tell whos version of the story is closest to the truth.

I am not saying that Nets are not leaking ****. It's just that Woj doesn't seem to throw everything out there. If he is saying that they are not going back and forth and in the next hour there is a trade, he will look like a fool. I don't think he wants that. When he says what he is saying now, I am leaning to trust him more than others. I am defending Woj here, not the Nets. They have other tools to do the dirty work.

[Claud]

Is it just me thinking Simmons for Harden straight up actually improves the Nets????

You need to hide Simmons come playoffs time, no go-to move, weak mentally, regular season allstar.

Harden = all time great HOF in decline, but still much more effective than Simmons has ever shown.

Levels.