Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher)

[thesack12]

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10026387-jerami-grant-trade-rumors-pistons-seeking-2-1st-round-draft-picks-for-forward

Yes Weaver stay strong and get us some assets.

The time to trade Grant for multiple 1st round picks was last season. Weaver messed up as that ship has long since sailed.

Grant has been exposed as a very inefficient high usage volume scorer, that doesn't provide much of anything else other than over-rated defense.

At this point an expiring + a 1st of any variety, is a good move.

[bstein14]

Miami may not have made that move to go after Grant, but they for sure made that move with OKC to free up their future pick flexibility in order to go after someone.

[rmfc]

Grant/KO/Livers

For

Herro/Robinson/Yurtseven/filler

Don't want/need Robinson but the other two would be great additions.

[thesack12]

It was always a pick swap for taking on Ariza. The Wood thing was lumped in after the fact.

We never “added” a pick.

That’s not how I remember it.

And just to play devils advocate. Pick swap, I get it….Why would we take on Ariza and his contract on top of that?

That may not be how you remember it, but that’s how it happened.

I remember the discourse on this board about it on draft night, the Wood signing came after.

You can say you didn’t like that trade, but that was the trade. We did not throw in a first rounder to have the privilege of them signing Wood. That’s not what happened.

Yes the Wood part was added in later, and it included extra protections on the pick Detroit will send Houston.

Still, it was bad move by Weaver. Off the top of my head, I don't recall another instance where the team that was eating a contract sent out a 1st in the move. That's not how salary dump's are supposed to work.

[Pharaoh]

I floated the Robinson/Yurtseven/pick idea a while back.

Think it makes sense for us but more importantly for them:

Bam, Grant, Jimmy, Herro, Lowry...that would be their line up even though they bring Herro off the bench.

Hopefully this happens but I'm not counting on it

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[thesack12]

Duncan Robinson has 3 more years on his contract that Grant does.

I'm as ready as anybody to send Grant out the door, but Robinson is not a good swap unless you are getting a lot of extra built in value in the deal.

[stylesofpunk]

Adding Robinson would be nice. Defensively not so much but giving Care multiple sharpshooters is nice

[Piston Pete]

Duncan Robinson has 3 more years on his contract that Grant does.

I'm as ready as anybody to send Grant out the door, but Robinson is not a good swap unless you are getting a lot of extra built in value in the deal.

Hence Herro and Yurtseven

[Pharaoh]

Duncan Robinson has 3 more years on his contract that Grant does.

I'm as ready as anybody to send Grant out the door, but Robinson is not a good swap unless you are getting a lot of extra built in value in the deal.

Yurtseven is a good prospect, the extra first rounder gets us another prospect on a team friendly deal and more importantly:

Robinson brings something we really lack beyond the obvious shooting.

His off ball movement and the threat he is from deep will open up lanes for other players to cut and curl as no one is leaving Robinson open to help elsewhere.

Yeah he's having a down year, yeah his D ain't all that but for us with what we lack?

I think he's a realistic target in a Grant deal

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[Pharaoh]

Duncan Robinson has 3 more years on his contract that Grant does.

I'm as ready as anybody to send Grant out the door, but Robinson is not a good swap unless you are getting a lot of extra built in value in the deal.

Hence Herro and Yurtseven

They ain't giving up Herro for Grant straight up and certainly wouldn't add in Yurtseven!

Grant is not worth Herro - at all

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[Kilo]

I worry about Miami "shine" on players not translating when away from Heat. Also Riley drives a ridiculously hard bargain and doesn't blink at TDL.

[Pharaoh]

I worry about Miami "shine" on players not translating when away from Heat. Also Riley drives a ridiculously hard bargain and doesn't blink at TDL.

KO still got his Miami shine on elsewhere so I think it comes down to the individual

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[Kilo]

I'd like Miami interest more to entice Chicago to offer up Williams for Grant than trading him to Miami for whatever.

[Piston Pete]

Or Dosunmu!

[bstein14]

Right now it feels like its 90% likely that we just end up keeping Grant. I think Beal going out for the rest of the year likely killed the best chance we had at moving Grant for a few picks. Once Beal went out, and the Portland trade was made.... we started hearing we might wait until the summer to make a move on Grant.

[bstein14]

I also still can't get over Sacramento moving on from Haliburton. He's been an efficient 20 and 10 in games Fox hasn't played. Very high IQ, efficient young PG its crazy to move on from that as he's locked in. I think Cade has more trade value than Haliburton, but it likely is close given how good Haliburton has been. The fact that other GMs were shocked when hearing about the deal because they didn't even get a chance to put in an offer not knowing he was even available in a trade is really crazy.

[NYPiston]

Miami has been after Grant for awhile now. Found some articles from last May, and before he signed in Detroit.

Man my hopes are up now. Not a good thing.

Your hopes are up based on what? There's nothing linking Grant to Miami.

There's virtually no chance Grant gets dealt if Weaver doesn't come down from that two 1sts asking price.
As I suspected, he doesn't really want to trade Grant if that's his asking price. It'll likely be an off-season trade if he is indeed traded.

[NYPiston]

It would be a miracle if they gave us Herro. No?
I very much prefer getting an actual young impact player to go with Cade over getting draft picks....but Herro I think Miami would be nuts to gift him to us for Grant who we all know his weaknesses

Zero chance. Folks around here are overvaluing Grant. I could see Miami offering a 1st plus filler. You're not getting Herro for Grant.

[theBigLip]

As much as I love Robinson (being a UM grad), and as much as he fills a role of need, his contract/age doesn't match up with our rebuild.

I'm sure we can still get a first for Grant, but maybe not this year or maybe not in the lottery. Still optimistic (or just hopeful) we get something done. Clock is ticking...

[mattao313]

Weaver is over valuing Grant. Two first for him just seems like to much. If I was a gm of another team I sure wouldn't do it unless they're late first in the mid 20s.

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