Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2

[ITGM]

[BBALLER4FR]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

That's not how our moron of a coach views it. Until the standings put an "x'" next to the Knicks to officially eliminate them mathematically, OR every aged player on the team is in a wheelchair, he likes his odds of making the play-in... the fugginf play-in is his quest.

[Synciere]

Mo Bamba rumors mean Leon probably called Mitch about a contract extension and Mitch did his goofy laugh and hung up on him. Mitch is leaving and Leon knows it. Mitch knows Detroit is about to pay him. Personally I don’t blame him if he leaves. He’s been very under-appreciated here by the FO and the fan base.

If Mitch is leaving and they know they won’t resign him they may as well attach him to Fournier and see if that works.

[dakomish23]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

[knickstape4ever]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

That's not how our moron of a coach views it. Until the standings put an "x'" next to the Knicks to officially eliminate them mathematically or every aged player on the team is in a wheelchair, he likes his odds of making the play-in... the fugginf play-in is his quest.

I like the play-in, but for the Knicks it was the worst possible thing

gives them a reason to "compete" every year

[BBALLER4FR]

[Br00kLyn]

Mitch is as good as gone after this season. Whats really gonna hurt is when RJ says he wants to play with Zion, but not in NY, and demands a trade to Nola

[Marty McFly]

Knick fans outside of this board (well, some of us anyway) are dumb as a box of rocks. there are fans out there that are happy about the knicks turning down a Westbrook deal. like, have they not seen Randle this season?

I would probably still do a Westbrook - Randle swap but we'd be trading Randle at his absolute lowest point in terms of value. Hate watching him but he still has more value than Russ AND it only increase in value over time.

how is it going to increase in value, when randle is trending downward and the season he's having is more analogous to his median? he's only going to get paid more.

the point of acquiring Westbrook is to get rid the contracts the knicks signed last summer, and begin a hard reset for the rebuild.

[knickstape4ever]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

if the pick is lotto protected, no

regardless, if they were to acquire Westbrook, I'd buy him out immediately. he's not the player I want around our young guys. I don't think his style of play would be conducive to their development

there must be other deals out there to get rid of those players. I don't really care about getting assets back, I'd just be happy for expirings in return

Burks is probably the easiest to move and maybe you combine him w/ Kemba or Noel to get rid of them. Fournier has been solid, and IMO he could help a contender. he's shot lights out since the new year. after this season his contract is only 2 yrs/35M which isn't terrible

[DowNY]

If there was a trade it would have been done already.

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Wrong. The mad dash of deals happen the day of/hours before the deadline.

[knickstape4ever]

Mitch is as good as gone after this season. Whats really gonna hurt is when RJ says he wants to play with Zion, but not in NY, and demands a trade to Nola

yes, Mitch may be gone and I won't be happy about it. it's the risk they ran when they used all their cap space and picked up his 4th year

as for Zion/RJ, teaming up in NOLA ain't gonna happen. Zion ain't gonna be there too long

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Melo is the Dolan of fans, his Florida Xanax infused favorite rap songs are his version of JD and the straight shots which he forces everyone to listen to just like James, and Randle is his Isaiah that he just won't quit despite public outcry.


I win.

[dakomish23]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

if the pick is lotto protected, no

regardless, if they were to acquire Westbrook, I'd buy him out immediately. he's not the player I want around our young guys. I don't think his style of play would be conducive to their development

there must be other deals out there to get rid of those players. I don't really care about getting assets back, I'd just be happy for expirings in return

Burks is probably the easiest to move and maybe you combine him w/ Kemba or Noel to get rid of them. Fournier has been solid, and IMO he could help a contender. he's shot lights out since the new year. after this season his contract is only 2 yrs/35M which isn't terrible

I think our only shot at an expiring was UTA with Ingles.

I doubt LAL wouldn’t put some protection on the pick considering we’re giving them garbage

[SelbyCobra]

Melo is the Dolan of fans, his Florida Xanax infused favorite rap songs are his version of JD and the straight shots which he forces everyone to listen to just like James, and Randle is his Isaiah that he just won't quit despite public outcry.


I win.

[knickstape4ever]

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

if the pick is lotto protected, no

regardless, if they were to acquire Westbrook, I'd buy him out immediately. he's not the player I want around our young guys. I don't think his style of play would be conducive to their development

there must be other deals out there to get rid of those players. I don't really care about getting assets back, I'd just be happy for expirings in return

Burks is probably the easiest to move and maybe you combine him w/ Kemba or Noel to get rid of them. Fournier has been solid, and IMO he could help a contender. he's shot lights out since the new year. after this season his contract is only 2 yrs/35M which isn't terrible

I think our only shot at an expiring was UTA with Ingles.

I doubt LAL wouldn’t put some protection on the pick considering we’re giving them garbage

Dragic is out there, and IMO Toronto needs to bolster their bench for the playoffs

[DowNY]

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

if the pick is lotto protected, no

regardless, if they were to acquire Westbrook, I'd buy him out immediately. he's not the player I want around our young guys. I don't think his style of play would be conducive to their development

there must be other deals out there to get rid of those players. I don't really care about getting assets back, I'd just be happy for expirings in return

Burks is probably the easiest to move and maybe you combine him w/ Kemba or Noel to get rid of them. Fournier has been solid, and IMO he could help a contender. he's shot lights out since the new year. after this season his contract is only 2 yrs/35M which isn't terrible

I think our only shot at an expiring was UTA with Ingles.

I doubt LAL wouldn’t put some protection on the pick considering we’re giving them garbage

Knicks have interest in Dragic. Expiring PG. Kills many birds with 1 stone. Stop gap PG for the rest of the year. Expires. And can be used in a sign and trade for Brunson as the Mavericks been linked to Dragic for months now.

[3toheadmelo]

Melo is the Dolan of fans, his Florida Xanax infused favorite rap songs are his version of JD and the straight shots which he forces everyone to listen to just like James, and Randle is his Isaiah that he just won't quit despite public outcry.


I win.

Dolan is never ending his torture to knicks fans so I will never end my torture to you guys as well

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[RHODEY]

Mo Bamba rumors mean Leon probably called Mitch about a contract extension and Mitch did his goofy laugh and hung up on him. Mitch is leaving and Leon knows it. Mitch knows Detroit is about to pay him. Personally I don’t blame him if he leaves. He’s been very under-appreciated here by the FO and the fan base.

If Mitch is leaving and they know they won’t resign him they may as well attach him to Fournier and see if that works.

I dont want to attach a guy who casually dropped a 21 rebound 19 pint statline in his last game and did something similar with 8 blocks before that....all without a PG on this team. Sign that man.

[nyk2017]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Lakers won’t make this trade. They don’t want our garbage and certainly not giving up another FRP. Why would we buy out Westbrook? He has a solid reputation of a hard worker and has never been thought to be a bad locker room guy. At the worst, they would give him the John Wall treatment and keep him around until next year to use his expiring contract to make other trades.

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

[Jalen Bluntson]

So Dragic. Would the Raptors want anything we have to offer? Even if we dump some 2RPs and IQ? What do they need help with?