Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2

[knickstape4ever]

if the pick is lotto protected, no

regardless, if they were to acquire Westbrook, I'd buy him out immediately. he's not the player I want around our young guys. I don't think his style of play would be conducive to their development

there must be other deals out there to get rid of those players. I don't really care about getting assets back, I'd just be happy for expirings in return

Burks is probably the easiest to move and maybe you combine him w/ Kemba or Noel to get rid of them. Fournier has been solid, and IMO he could help a contender. he's shot lights out since the new year. after this season his contract is only 2 yrs/35M which isn't terrible

I think our only shot at an expiring was UTA with Ingles.

I doubt LAL wouldn’t put some protection on the pick considering we’re giving them garbage

Knicks have interest in Dragic. Expiring PG. Kills many birds with 1 stone. Stop gap PG for the rest of the year. Expires. And can be used in a sign and trade for Brunson as the Mavericks been linked to Dragic for months now.

personally, I'd buy out Dragic, let Deuce run the point

by trading for Dragic, they'd free up ~20M and would be able to sign Brunson outright

[nyk2017]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

it clearly makes more sense to lean into draft positioning than try to push for the playoffs. Knicks should be sellers

would love to sell Randle, but a deal is probably easier around draft time. at the very least, they need to get rid of 2 of Kemba, Burks, Fournier to free up minutes for younger players. would be great to get out of the Noel deal too and give ourselves some cap space this offseason

Knicks would never do this but would you do this and just cut Russ?

Fournier
Burks
Kemba
Noel

For

Westbrook
27 1st lottery protected

The lakers won’t do this trade. They don’t want any of our garbage. If the trade did go through then we wouldn’t cur Russ. He has always been thought of as a hard worker and good locker room guy. At the worst, we would give him the John Wall treatment and use his expiring contract next year in a trade.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Melo is the Dolan of fans, his Florida Xanax infused favorite rap songs are his version of JD and the straight shots which he forces everyone to listen to just like James, and Randle is his Isaiah that he just won't quit despite public outcry.


I win.

Dolan is never ending his torture to knicks fans so I will never end my torture to you guys as well

Here’s that auto tune that you all love so much!

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Bootleg lil Baby, turrrrrible.


If I'm gonna listen to ignorant music from the south I'll go with the classics.

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[Gorilla Monsoon]

He's the starter at PG for the Mavs and a large reason why their defense improved, he's at 18ppg/6apg on 51% and 37% from three as a starter, yeesh what a misinformed post.

A quick Google search shows he's started 24 out of 55 games this season. Was it really that misinformed? Sorry I don't follow other teams nearly as much as I follow the Knicks, and didn't realize his ugly ass wasn't coming off the bench anymore. Yeesh. You gonna refute any of the other points I made?

You know Fournier was a starter for the Magic scoring almost 20 a game? You like his contract? Not saying Evan is a better player than Brunson, but my point remains. I have no interest in paying Brunson.

He's started 36 games, how can you get that wrong too? Your other points don't even make sense, he's a better finisher at the rim than anyone on our team not named Mitch, so spare me the unathletic talk, he's an elite at rim finisher at 70%. If you don't watch him play why are you speaking about him like you know what you're talking about? Instead of just admitting you're wrong and moving on you try to google him and even then you get that wrong too


The Mavericks seasons turned around when Brunson began starting, he is in no way similar to Fournier, who played on middling teams for most of his career and was let go by the Celtics who needed shooting. He is on the upswing, and could be a 20/7 type of player in the same vein as Brogdon and FVV, but some of you people on here swear the only PG that's worthy of being acquired are superstars. You may not have interest in him, but the Knicks do, and in this instance they are actually right to pursue him.

You're a better man than me dude. Still don't want him. Knicks have bigger fish to fry, unfortunately.

[3toheadmelo]

Melo is the Dolan of fans, his Florida Xanax infused favorite rap songs are his version of JD and the straight shots which he forces everyone to listen to just like James, and Randle is his Isaiah that he just won't quit despite public outcry.


I win.

Dolan is never ending his torture to knicks fans so I will never end my torture to you guys as well

Here’s that auto tune that you all love so much!

Watch on YouTube

Bootleg lil Baby, turrrrrible.


If I'm gonna listen to ignorant music from the south I'll go with the classics.

Watch on YouTube

Very nasty person hating on the youth!

Team Randle winning all day. Can’t stop us! This our anthem!

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[DowNY]

A quick Google search shows he's started 24 out of 55 games this season. Was it really that misinformed? Sorry I don't follow other teams nearly as much as I follow the Knicks, and didn't realize his ugly ass wasn't coming off the bench anymore. Yeesh. You gonna refute any of the other points I made?

You know Fournier was a starter for the Magic scoring almost 20 a game? You like his contract? Not saying Evan is a better player than Brunson, but my point remains. I have no interest in paying Brunson.

He's started 36 games, how can you get that wrong too? Your other points don't even make sense, he's a better finisher at the rim than anyone on our team not named Mitch, so spare me the unathletic talk, he's an elite at rim finisher at 70%. If you don't watch him play why are you speaking about him like you know what you're talking about? Instead of just admitting you're wrong and moving on you try to google him and even then you get that wrong too


The Mavericks seasons turned around when Brunson began starting, he is in no way similar to Fournier, who played on middling teams for most of his career and was let go by the Celtics who needed shooting. He is on the upswing, and could be a 20/7 type of player in the same vein as Brogdon and FVV, but some of you people on here swear the only PG that's worthy of being acquired are superstars. You may not have interest in him, but the Knicks do, and in this instance they are actually right to pursue him.

You're a better man than me dude. Still don't want him. Knicks have bigger fish to fry, unfortunately.

So you say all of that to say the Knicks should just draft a point guard at pick number 11 & hope they’re better than Jalen Brunson….hope they’re better than Dennis Smith Jr for that matter ?
Because you’re not signing another PG unless Colin Sexton takes below market value and we finesse the system. Rather trade the lot of “assets” for Dame and have an even more depleted team?

[TheGreenArrow]

It's 10pm do you know where your Leon is???

It’s all good we have this guy leading the way……………

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GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[robillionaire]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

So you’re saying there’s an 84% chance none of that happens and we get our late lotto pick

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Dolan is never ending his torture to knicks fans so I will never end my torture to you guys as well

Here’s that auto tune that you all love so much!

Watch on YouTube

Bootleg lil Baby, turrrrrible.


If I'm gonna listen to ignorant music from the south I'll go with the classics.

Watch on YouTube

Very nasty person hating on the youth!

Team Randle winning all day. Can’t stop us! This our anthem!

Watch on YouTube

This dude makes 3-6 Mafia sound like lyrical wizards

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Classic ignorance, not this low bar nonsense!

[knickstape4ever]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

So you’re saying there’s an 84% chance none of that happens and we get our late lotto pick

yes, that's how odds work

the point is that 13.9% > 3.5% so why chase the 3.5% when the alternative is more likely?

[3toheadmelo]

Bootleg lil Baby, turrrrrible.


If I'm gonna listen to ignorant music from the south I'll go with the classics.

Watch on YouTube

Very nasty person hating on the youth!

Team Randle winning all day. Can’t stop us! This our anthem!

Watch on YouTube

This dude makes 3-6 Mafia sound like lyrical wizards

Watch on YouTube

Classic ignorance, not this low bar nonsense!

It’s not always about bars, sometimes you gotta dumb it down and just have fun with it! You gotta expand your sound

But if you want lyrical schit I got what you need too!

Watch on YouTube

[robillionaire]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

So you’re saying there’s an 84% chance none of that happens and we get our late lotto pick

yes, that's how odds work

the point is that 13.9% > 3.5% so why chase the 3.5% when the alternative is more likely?

I wouldn’t chase either one, I would just accept the fact this is extremely likely to be a late lotto team and go compete and let the chips fall where they may

[TheGreenArrow]

Very nasty person hating on the youth!

Team Randle winning all day. Can’t stop us! This our anthem!

Watch on YouTube

This dude makes 3-6 Mafia sound like lyrical wizards

Watch on YouTube

Classic ignorance, not this low bar nonsense!

It’s not always about bars, sometimes you gotta dumb it down and just have fun with it! You gotta expand your sound

But if you want lyrical schit I got what you need too!

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

[ITGM]

It's 10pm do you know where your Leon is???

It’s all good we have this guy leading the way……………

Read on Twitter

GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[knickstape4ever]

So you’re saying there’s an 84% chance none of that happens and we get our late lotto pick

yes, that's how odds work

the point is that 13.9% > 3.5% so why chase the 3.5% when the alternative is more likely?

I wouldn’t chase either one, I would just accept the fact this is extremely likely to be a late lotto team and go compete and let the chips fall where they may

that's kinda what the Knicks have always done and it hasn't worked

it's not too late. if they went on a fire-sale and actually sold Randle, Burks, Fournier etc. they'd be able to push themselves up 2-4 spots in the tank standings

[HarthorneWingo]

It's 10pm do you know where your Leon is???

It’s all good we have this guy leading the way……………

Read on Twitter

GOD HELP US ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here's the JD & The Sling Shots listening experience in real time:

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[robillionaire]

yes, that's how odds work

the point is that 13.9% > 3.5% so why chase the 3.5% when the alternative is more likely?

I wouldn’t chase either one, I would just accept the fact this is extremely likely to be a late lotto team and go compete and let the chips fall where they may

that's kinda what the Knicks have always done and it hasn't worked

it's not too late. if they went on a fire-sale and actually sold Randle, Burks, Fournier etc. they'd be able to push themselves up 2-4 spots in the tank standings

It feels too late. It’s not like we are winning a lot with those guys as it is. 538 says we will finish 36-46 which is tied for 9th. At 8th they have the spurs at 32-50 4 games back from us. We have already won 24 games, and for all we know getting rid of those guys helps us win even more. We do have a tough schedule. But we are really talking about battling for one pick position. When for all we know the team behind us wins the lottery anyway because Knicks

[Fat]

Whole team better be traded by morning!

[cgmw]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

So you’re saying there’s an 84% chance none of that happens and we get our late lotto pick

There’s a 100% chance that being delusional, irresponsible, and incompetent will lead to even mOaR failure for the Dolan organization.

Keep on keeping on with the 3.5% chance of the 8 seed “win now” strategy. Been working wonders for 21 years now.

You want to recruit real players and be a non-laughing stock? Try doing the f*cking normal/non-self-destructive thing for once.

[robillionaire]

ESPN has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.5%

538 has the Knicks playoff odds at 3%

Basketball Ref. has the Knicks playoff odds at 3.3%

right now, we have a 13.9% chance of getting a top 4 pick....13.9>3.5

So you’re saying there’s an 84% chance none of that happens and we get our late lotto pick

There’s a 100% chance that being delusional, irresponsible, and incompetent will lead to even mOaR failure for the Dolan organization.

Keep on keeping on with the 3.5% chance of the 8 seed “win now” strategy. Been working wonders for 21 years now.

You want to recruit real players and be a non-laughing stock? Try doing the f*cking normal/non-self-destructive thing for once.

The normal non self destructive thing being what, blowing up your team all so you can move up 1 position in the lottery and then fall back 2 spots on lottery night like we do every year