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Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2

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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#601 » by knickstape4ever » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:58 am

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I'm for it. Losing Cam is a waste especially since we didn't even get to see what he could be on this team but getting rid of Burks and Noel while getting Dragic's expiring along with multiple picks that should net at least a 1st is a win. Helps reset some of the mistakes of this off-season while also freeing up some playing time for the young guys. Also leaves Fournier and Randle's deals to strike a bigger deal in the off-season. It's a step back to take another swing at it.


they'd save ~25M giving them room to sign someone like Brunson outright

still not a fan of trading Cam tho
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#602 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:00 am

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This is just so stupid. I really can’t believe it. Why gift the Lakers such talent? Even if we get picks back, we just traded a first for Reddish and he’s such a talent himself, too.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#603 » by Polk377 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:07 am

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This is just so stupid. I really can’t believe it. Why gift the Lakers such talent? Even if we get picks back, we just traded a first for Reddish and he’s such a talent himself, too.

If we get multiple 1sts back for trading him and at least 1 without protections it is a win. He isn't playing anyway and doesn't seem to be in the plans. We traded a not so great asset for a better one and trading that for multiple assets. It is more a business move than a basketball one.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#604 » by DaGawd » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:08 am

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I'm for it. Losing Cam is a waste especially since we didn't even get to see what he could be on this team but getting rid of Burks and Noel while getting Dragic's expiring along with multiple picks that should net at least a 1st is a win. Helps reset some of the mistakes of this off-season while also freeing up some playing time for the young guys. Also leaves Fournier and Randle's deals to strike a bigger deal in the off-season. It's a step back to take another swing at it.

they'd save ~25M giving them room to sign someone like Brunson outright

still not a fan of trading Cam tho


We ain’t even using him… might as well move him for something useful/purposeful
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#605 » by GEOLINK » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:10 am

We get rid of grease hands Noel that’s a W
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#606 » by DaGawd » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:10 am

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This is just so stupid. I really can’t believe it. Why gift the Lakers such talent? Even if we get picks back, we just traded a first for Reddish and he’s such a talent himself, too.

We get back picks and an expiring we make out pretty well. Cam Reddish and Alec Burks are not helping to deliver a title in LA.. not that that should matter if we’re getting a good deal
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#607 » by Polk377 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:10 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
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I'm for it. Losing Cam is a waste especially since we didn't even get to see what he could be on this team but getting rid of Burks and Noel while getting Dragic's expiring along with multiple picks that should net at least a 1st is a win. Helps reset some of the mistakes of this off-season while also freeing up some playing time for the young guys. Also leaves Fournier and Randle's deals to strike a bigger deal in the off-season. It's a step back to take another swing at it.


they'd save ~25M giving them room to sign someone like Brunson outright

still not a fan of trading Cam tho


Plus they would still have Fournier and Randle's deals to shop in the off-season to get more assets and players. At least they tried to see if it would work, signed team friendly deals and are pulling the plug before it gets worse.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#608 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:11 am

Polk377 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
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This is just so stupid. I really can’t believe it. Why gift the Lakers such talent? Even if we get picks back, we just traded a first for Reddish and he’s such a talent himself, too.

If we get multiple 1sts back for trading him and at least 1 without protections it is a win. He isn't playing anyway and doesn't seem to be in the plans. We traded a not so great asset for a better one and trading that for multiple assets. It is more a business move than a basketball one.

Why would Toronto include such an amount of picks? Why? Look at their meager return. Lakers can’t offer picks, yet they end up with the best talent. I don’t even see why Toronto would do that deal at all.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#609 » by Worst_to_First » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:19 am

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I thought we couldn't combine Cam Reddish w/ any other salary

also bad look to trade for a player, proceed not to play said player, and then sell him for a loss a few weeks later


I think maybe you get around it by structuring it as 2 separate trades.


Nunn is the only one that matches Cam here and Burks salary doesn’t match with Goran. I don’t think we have any TPE left to make that work.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#610 » by Polk377 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:22 am

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spree2kawhi wrote:This is just so stupid. I really can’t believe it. Why gift the Lakers such talent? Even if we get picks back, we just traded a first for Reddish and he’s such a talent himself, too.

If we get multiple 1sts back for trading him and at least 1 without protections it is a win. He isn't playing anyway and doesn't seem to be in the plans. We traded a not so great asset for a better one and trading that for multiple assets. It is more a business move than a basketball one.

Why would Toronto include such an amount of picks? Why? Look at their meager return. Lakers can’t offer picks, yet they end up with the best talent. I don’t even see why Toronto would do that deal at all.


I wouldn't call THT a meager acquisition. He fits the Raptor's playing style like a glove and when Noel actually plays he does too. They are essentially trading a player who hasn't played for them yet this season for 2 guys that can help them right now in the playoff hunt. That is worth at least a 1st.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#611 » by Adelheid » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:23 am

we lose noel and burks...sounds good. do it
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#612 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:48 am

Polk377 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Polk377 wrote:If we get multiple 1sts back for trading him and at least 1 without protections it is a win. He isn't playing anyway and doesn't seem to be in the plans. We traded a not so great asset for a better one and trading that for multiple assets. It is more a business move than a basketball one.

Why would Toronto include such an amount of picks? Why? Look at their meager return. Lakers can’t offer picks, yet they end up with the best talent. I don’t even see why Toronto would do that deal at all.


I wouldn't call THT a meager acquisition. He fits the Raptor's playing style like a glove and when Noel actually plays he does too. They are essentially trading a player who hasn't played for them yet this season for 2 guys that can help them right now in the playoff hunt. That is worth at least a 1st.

THT is redundant in Toronto and what they call a bad contract in LA.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#613 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:01 am

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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#614 » by aq_ua » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:05 am

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Polk377 wrote:I'm for it. Losing Cam is a waste especially since we didn't even get to see what he could be on this team but getting rid of Burks and Noel while getting Dragic's expiring along with multiple picks that should net at least a 1st is a win. Helps reset some of the mistakes of this off-season while also freeing up some playing time for the young guys. Also leaves Fournier and Randle's deals to strike a bigger deal in the off-season. It's a step back to take another swing at it.

they'd save ~25M giving them room to sign someone like Brunson outright

still not a fan of trading Cam tho


We ain’t even using him… might as well move him for something useful/purposeful

I thought the intent would be to open up a spot in the rotation for Cam. Just seems odd to move him as well.
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Post#615 » by thebuzzardman » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:14 am

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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#616 » by spree2kawhi » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:18 am

DaGawd wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:
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This is just so stupid. I really can’t believe it. Why gift the Lakers such talent? Even if we get picks back, we just traded a first for Reddish and he’s such a talent himself, too.

We get back picks and an expiring we make out pretty well. Cam Reddish and Alec Burks are not helping to deliver a title in LA.. not that that should matter if we’re getting a good deal

Reddish is good. He should actually start.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#617 » by Adelheid » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:24 am

aq_ua wrote:
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knickstape4ever wrote:they'd save ~25M giving them room to sign someone like Brunson outright

still not a fan of trading Cam tho


We ain’t even using him… might as well move him for something useful/purposeful

I thought the intent would be to open up a spot in the rotation for Cam. Just seems odd to move him as well.


knicks dont have much player assets to trade. One would think just because they are playing they would increase or maintain their trade value -- but thibs is bad at managing personnel (so are most of the coaches that went by with the knicks) so whenever trading season hits, we cant trade anything of value aside from picks
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#618 » by aq_ua » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:33 am

Adelheid wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
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We ain’t even using him… might as well move him for something useful/purposeful

I thought the intent would be to open up a spot in the rotation for Cam. Just seems odd to move him as well.


knicks dont have much player assets to trade. One would think just because they are playing they would increase or maintain their trade value -- but thibs is bad at managing personnel (so are most of the coaches that went by with the knicks) so whenever trading season hits, we cant trade anything of value aside from picks

If that's the case, then it seems we shouldn't do any trades at all. Burks, Noel, Taj, Rose, and Kemba are a few months from becoming expiring contracts.
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#619 » by Adelheid » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:40 am

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aq_ua wrote:I thought the intent would be to open up a spot in the rotation for Cam. Just seems odd to move him as well.


knicks dont have much player assets to trade. One would think just because they are playing they would increase or maintain their trade value -- but thibs is bad at managing personnel (so are most of the coaches that went by with the knicks) so whenever trading season hits, we cant trade anything of value aside from picks

If that's the case, then it seems we shouldn't do any trades at all. Burks, Noel, Taj, Rose, and Kemba are a few months from becoming expiring contracts.


burks and noel gonna be expiring/team options in 2023-2024
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Re: Deadline Discussion Thread - Thursday 2/10 3pm - Part 2 

Post#620 » by aq_ua » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:42 am

Adelheid wrote:
aq_ua wrote:
Adelheid wrote:
knicks dont have much player assets to trade. One would think just because they are playing they would increase or maintain their trade value -- but thibs is bad at managing personnel (so are most of the coaches that went by with the knicks) so whenever trading season hits, we cant trade anything of value aside from picks

If that's the case, then it seems we shouldn't do any trades at all. Burks, Noel, Taj, Rose, and Kemba are a few months from becoming expiring contracts.


burks and noel gonna be expiring/team options in 2023-2024

Yes, they have team options for the 2023-24 season, so they will be essentially expiring contract for the 2022-23 season, which is a few months away.

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