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Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher)

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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1061 » by Snakebites » Wed Feb 9, 2022 11:57 pm

mattao313 wrote:Weaver is over valuing Grant. Two first for him just seems like to much. If I was a gm of another team I sure wouldn't do it unless they're late first in the mid 20s.

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Yeah I get asking for the moon but if he's really not coming off of that then a move isn't going to be made.

And I suppose it's possible he's okay with that.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1062 » by pistonsbball » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:04 am

I think just take the best deal available at the deadline. Any suitable young player with upside and/or a mid-first would satisfy me.

I predict his value is only going to dip further from here. The basketball world at large still hasn't really woken up to the fact he's been an inefficient iso scorer outside of his first couple of months in Detroit. He also seems reluctant to embrace a smaller role again like he had in Denver.

I'd move him now to open things up for Cade and co. more than anything.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1063 » by bstein14 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:07 am

The further I dig into Duncan Robinson's advanced stats, the less and less I like him. I think at his current contract he's a negative value asset. I don't think Miami would be able to find any teams willing to simply trade an expiring contract for him if they wanted to get rid of him.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1064 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:15 am

ComboGuardCity wrote:A haiku to Troy Weaver

Trade Jeremy Grant

For PAW, Herro, or assets

It’s time to move on

Nice!

All NBA teams
Please propose a trade for Grant
Really don’t care who
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1065 » by ComboGuardCity » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:01 am

Manocad wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:A haiku to Troy Weaver

Trade Jeremy Grant

For PAW, Herro, or assets

It’s time to move on

Nice!

All NBA teams
Please propose a trade for Grant
Really don’t care who

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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1066 » by zeebneeb » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:10 am

NYPiston wrote:
zeebneeb wrote:Miami has been after Grant for awhile now. Found some articles from last May, and before he signed in Detroit.

Man my hopes are up now. Not a good thing.


Your hopes are up based on what? There's nothing linking Grant to Miami.

There's virtually no chance Grant gets dealt if Weaver doesn't come down from that two 1sts asking price.
As I suspected, he doesn't really want to trade Grant if that's his asking price. It'll likely be an off-season trade if he is indeed traded.
My hopes are based on the fact that Miami needs a starting 4 to truly compete this year. They lost Crowder, and replacing him with Grant would be a masterstroke. I also mentioned that Miami has coveted Grant for awhile now.

The best Miami can do is Robinson Yurtseven the 2022 pick, and a second.

It all depends on if Grant is still their target at the 4. They didn't do this to stand still, and wait. No way in hell.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1067 » by Rip32 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:21 am

Is Killian Hayes a bust? Should he be dealt for crumbs if that's his value.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1068 » by stylesofpunk » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:22 am

Give me nurk/little/better of pels and blazers 1st for Grant/cojo

You get a center. A young prospect and a solid 1st
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Post#1069 » by Pharaoh » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:24 am

Rip32 wrote:Is Killian Hayes a bust? Should he be dealt for crumbs if that's his value.
Are you serious? Dude hasn't even played 82 games yet and you're asking if he's a bust?

He's a rookie ffs

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Post#1070 » by Pharaoh » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:24 am

stylesofpunk wrote:Give me nurk/little/better of pels and blazers 1st for Grant/cojo

You get a center. A young prospect and a solid 1st
Doubt Portland are doing that tbh

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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1071 » by Rip32 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:28 am

Pharaoh wrote:
Rip32 wrote:Is Killian Hayes a bust? Should he be dealt for crumbs if that's his value.
Are you serious? Dude hasn't even played 82 games yet and you're asking if he's a bust?

He's a rookie ffs

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Why is th 7th Overall Draft pick coming off the bench. Why is Tyreese Maxey a better player but he was drafted at 21st pick?

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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1072 » by theBigLip » Thu Feb 10, 2022 4:31 am

Rip32 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
Rip32 wrote:Is Killian Hayes a bust? Should he be dealt for crumbs if that's his value.
Are you serious? Dude hasn't even played 82 games yet and you're asking if he's a bust?

He's a rookie ffs

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Why is th 7th Overall Draft pick coming off the bench. Why is Tyreese Maxey a better player but he was drafted at 21st pick?

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I’m thinking the same. Of course he should get better, but we certainly could have done better w that pick. More importantly, if he needs the ball in his hands, that’s not a good fit w Cade, so maybe we can see what he could bring us in a trade.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1073 » by SamFlow » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:43 am

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Rip32 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:Are you serious? Dude hasn't even played 82 games yet and you're asking if he's a bust?

He's a rookie ffs

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Why is th 7th Overall Draft pick coming off the bench. Why is Tyreese Maxey a better player but he was drafted at 21st pick?

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I’m thinking the same. Of course he should get better, but we certainly could have done better w that pick. More importantly, if he needs the ball in his hands, that’s not a good fit w Cade, so maybe we can see what he could bring us in a trade.


Killian is not a bust. As youth and rookie play and improvement will suggest.
I would NOT trade him now unless we got something good which I don't think he would bring at the moment.
Let him come off the bench and have him attack the f'ing rim. Let him get aggressive. Give him some bench mates that can hit a shot and help him.

Why is Tyreese Maxy a better player.... so many players were missed. Manu taken in the second round. Ben Wallace, etc.

Let the trades happen and see if it can create a better mix of players to surround our Star Cade "Morpheus" Cunningham.
Blue pill or Red pill, bad boys.... come out to playeayyy. Naw we work.

We are not that far away from the cavs success.

This trade season maybe get a center or during free agency. Draft a pf like they did.
We are not that far off.

I'll wait to see what we get for Grant and draft and this offseason. Next year we are in the playoffs.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1074 » by Muteboy » Thu Feb 10, 2022 10:11 am

Hayes shows some skill, the dude just looks like he's not sure if he's allowed to run the team or not. I'm not ready to give up on him yet.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1075 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:22 am

We'd be selling super low on Hayes right now. Maybe his stock never gets higher than it is now and just plummets from here and we miss out on selling him for whatever his value is now. But since that value is like a 2nd rounder and he's young and super raw with the physical tools to get it done, might as well wait and see if we can develop him.

Hayes hasn't been that great, but should be viewed as all upside potential, IMO. Lottery tickets in this league aren't just draft picks. Sometimes they're developmental players that you wait and see on.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1076 » by ElectricMayhem » Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:38 am

Manocad wrote:
ComboGuardCity wrote:A haiku to Troy Weaver

Trade Jeremy Grant

For PAW, Herro, or assets

It’s time to move on

Nice!

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Please propose a trade for Grant
Really don’t care who


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Post#1077 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:30 pm

Kalamazoo317 wrote:We'd be selling super low on Hayes right now. Maybe his stock never gets higher than it is now and just plummets from here and we miss out on selling him for whatever his value is now. But since that value is like a 2nd rounder and he's young and super raw with the physical tools to get it done, might as well wait and see if we can develop him.

Hayes hasn't been that great, but should be viewed as all upside potential, IMO. Lottery tickets in this league aren't just draft picks. Sometimes they're developmental players that you wait and see on.

The irony is that the same people who want to jettison Hayes want to chase flyers. A flyer, as we all know, would be a young player who has potential but just hasn't put it together yet, so low risk/potentially high reward, and possibly undervalued by league.

Kinda like...

Not to mention of course the purporting of the idea that Hayes is killing the team every time he touches the ball.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1078 » by Manocad » Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:34 pm

Rip32 wrote:
Pharaoh wrote:
Rip32 wrote:Is Killian Hayes a bust? Should he be dealt for crumbs if that's his value.
Are you serious? Dude hasn't even played 82 games yet and you're asking if he's a bust?

He's a rookie ffs

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Post#1079 » by Kalamazoo317 » Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:43 pm

Maxey was used off ball in college and played on a roster with a glut of guards, so his full potential wasn't really seen at that level and he's surprised a lot of folks with his upside since hitting the league.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1080 » by Laimbeer » Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:52 pm

Grant isn't that great a bargain on his contract. Gallo, Barnes, Jarrett Allen, Randle, VanVleet, and LaVine are the three players immediately above and below his 20M per salary.

My WAG on the situation is we want one really good centerpiece (like a mid-lotto pick) but teams are offering a lotto protected pick and maybe a young player who is nothing special. Thus, he won't be traded.

I'd be meh with an extension near his current salary, but a signifcant raise would be a big mistake.
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