Discussing Other Teams' Moves - Part 7

[Ruzious]

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Sheppard missed a golden opportunity to exploit the ineptitude of New Orleans front office here. I can't believe how badly Portland just fleeced New Orleans.

Hart, right now, is a better player than McCollum and is paid 35% as much.

It's too bad Portland made that stupid trade with the Clippers. If they had just made this trade and surrounded Lillard with Hart, Powell, Covington, Sato and NAW, they probably could have gotten back on track.

Exactly. They'd be looking great now if they just didn't make the first trade.

[Ruzious]

Halliburton and Heild for Sabonis and a 2nd.

Moral of the story. Draft better, hold better chips to trade.

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

That's an absolute steal for Indy. I cannot believe how inept the Kings are. Wow...!

You're not a fan of Sabonis?

[gambitx777]

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Sheppard missed a golden opportunity to exploit the ineptitude of New Orleans front office here. I can't believe how badly Portland just fleeced New Orleans.

Hart, right now, is a better player than McCollum and is paid 35% as much.

It's too bad Portland made that stupid trade with the Clippers. If they had just made this trade and surrounded Lillard with Hart, Powell, Covington, Sato and NAW, they probably could have gotten back on track.

Exactly. They'd be looking great now if they just didn't make the first trade.

I don't know hink it was a bad trade with the clippers. They needed that salary dump to keep a young guy they really like and they got some assets in the process. They are in rebuild mode don't be shocked if same is moved by the dead line.

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[Dat2U]

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

That's an absolute steal for Indy. I cannot believe how inept the Kings are. Wow...!

You're not a fan of Sabonis?

Gotta value the young playmaking guard, still on a rookie deal over the highly skilled non-defending C.

I'm shocked the Kings would actually move off Haliburton.

[gambitx777]

I am a little surprised they moved haliburton. He's legit and should have been untouchable. Like what are the kings thinking. Would Indy have flat out said no to mitchel and a first in haliburtons place ? Like I can understand this and buddy too. Like I'm really confused. Like I guess holiday and lamb for buddy saves them a lot of money and but trading haliburton.... My god that's terrible.

I know like a lot of people wanted haliburton over deni and he's definitely the better player right now. But I'm holding out hope for deni to really hit his grove in his mid 20s I see a lot in him.

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[dckingsfan]

Halliburton and Heild for Sabonis and a 2nd.

Moral of the story. Draft better, hold better chips to trade.

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

Yeah, wish we could have got in on this... agreed, I think it makes the guard short Indiana much better. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield will be a fine backcourt rotation to go next to Turner. Now they need to turn one of the guards around for a young forward.

For Sacramento, it is puzzling. They need forwards & they need depth. Although Sabonis will probably fit fine next to Holmes. I don't think the following gets you into the playoffs in the west. Sigh...guess they need to hit on their lottery.

Fox/Mitchell
Davis/Holiday/Fox
Barnes/Harkless/Holiday
Sabonis/Barnes/Metu
Holmes/Sabonis/Len/Jones

For the record - I think it makes both teams better but Indy got the better part of this trade by a bunch.

[Ruzious]

That's an absolute steal for Indy. I cannot believe how inept the Kings are. Wow...!

You're not a fan of Sabonis?

Gotta value the young playmaking guard, still on a rookie deal over the highly skilled non-defending C.

I'm shocked the Kings would actually move off Haliburton.

Hey, nobody pushed more for the Wiz to get Hali than I did. I just don't think it's a terrible thing to get a 25 year old 2 time all-star on an excellent contract in return - not to mention taking Hield takes away the benefit gained by getting Hali's rookie deal. And when they drafted Mitchell, I thought that was an indication that they didn't value Hali as highly as some thought they did.

[gambitx777]

Halliburton and Heild for Sabonis and a 2nd.

Moral of the story. Draft better, hold better chips to trade.

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

Yeah, wish we could have got in on this... agreed, I think it makes the guard short Indiana much better. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield will be a fine backcourt rotation to go next to Turner. Now they need to turn one of the guards around for a young forward.

For Sacramento, it is puzzling. They need forwards & they need depth. Although Sabonis will probably fit fine next to Holmes. I don't think the following gets you into the playoffs in the west. Sigh...guess they need to hit on their lottery.

Fox/Mitchell
Davis/Holiday/Fox
Barnes/Harkless/Holiday
Sabonis/Barnes/Metu
Holmes/Sabonis/Len/Jones

For the record - I think it makes both teams better but Indy got the better part of this trade by a bunch.

I just look at this and go man. If they had just pushed Mitchell and a pick package this might legit make them a play off team in the west.

Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Sabonis
Holmes.

That's a play off team.

Fox
Lamb/holiday
Barnes
Sabonis
Holmes

Not so much.

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[Ruzious]

Yeah, as much as people here like Deni, Hali is clearly the better player and the better trade piece. I don't think the trade makes either team much better, but Indy has a very efficient group at the wings/point with Brogdon, Hali, and Duarte - along with Hield. None of them are true shot-creators, but they are high BBIQ players. Sabonis is a helluva player, but I'm not sure he'll be a better fit there than he was at Indiana.

Yeah, wish we could have got in on this... agreed, I think it makes the guard short Indiana much better. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield will be a fine backcourt rotation to go next to Turner. Now they need to turn one of the guards around for a young forward.

For Sacramento, it is puzzling. They need forwards & they need depth. Although Sabonis will probably fit fine next to Holmes. I don't think the following gets you into the playoffs in the west. Sigh...guess they need to hit on their lottery.

Fox/Mitchell
Davis/Holiday/Fox
Barnes/Harkless/Holiday
Sabonis/Barnes/Metu
Holmes/Sabonis/Len/Jones

For the record - I think it makes both teams better but Indy got the better part of this trade by a bunch.

I just look at this and go man. If they had just pushed Mitchell and a pick package this might legit make them a play off team in the west.

Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Sabonis
Holmes.

That's a play off team.

Fox
Lamb/holiday
Barnes
Sabonis
Holmes

Not so much.

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I hate to keep harping on this, but they picked Mitchell higher than they picked Hali - the season after they picked Hali. They must see something in Mitchell. Not saying I agree with them - I bashed the pick. But there must have been a reason for that pick.

[dckingsfan]

Yeah, wish we could have got in on this... agreed, I think it makes the guard short Indiana much better. Haliburton, Brogdon, Duarte & Hield will be a fine backcourt rotation to go next to Turner. Now they need to turn one of the guards around for a young forward.

For Sacramento, it is puzzling. They need forwards & they need depth. Although Sabonis will probably fit fine next to Holmes. I don't think the following gets you into the playoffs in the west. Sigh...guess they need to hit on their lottery.

Fox/Mitchell
Davis/Holiday/Fox
Barnes/Harkless/Holiday
Sabonis/Barnes/Metu
Holmes/Sabonis/Len/Jones

For the record - I think it makes both teams better but Indy got the better part of this trade by a bunch.

I just look at this and go man. If they had just pushed Mitchell and a pick package this might legit make them a play off team in the west.

Fox
Haliburton
Barnes
Sabonis
Holmes.

That's a play off team.

Fox
Lamb/holiday
Barnes
Sabonis
Holmes

Not so much.

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I hate to keep harping on this, but they picked Mitchell higher than they picked Hali - the season after they picked Hali. They must see something in Mitchell. Not saying I agree with them - I bashed the pick. But there must have been a reason for that pick.

What I don't understand is Philly not wanting Haliburton for Simmons. He is a perfect fit...

[gambitx777]

Yeah like what did the 76ers ask for if that deal wasn't enough !


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if hes crying imagine what the avg fella feels being traded to the wizards

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[spaceman_E]

I hate to keep harping on this, but they picked Mitchell higher than they picked Hali - the season after they picked Hali. They must see something in Mitchell. Not saying I agree with them - I bashed the pick. But there must have been a reason for that pick.

I remember a lot of chatter about "changing the defensive culture" and more non-sense like that. Now you trade for Sabonis...

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Great to see so much participation from you, spaceman_E -- also, that's a great signature line you've got!

[FAH1223]

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The knives are out for Russ in LA. Damn shame

[gambitx777]

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The knives are out for Russ in LA. Damn shame

Yeah I mean OKC doesn't have any extra picks for 2027 or 2028 so la could send them a first to take Russ back and let him finish there.

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[Ruzious]

Interesting that Sac's offense looked outstanding in Sabonis' first game there, but Holmes was invisible.

[gambitx777]

Interesting that Sac's offense looked outstanding in Sabonis' first game there, but Holmes was invisible.

Maybe trade homes ? He certainly has some value ?

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