James Harden Wants To Be Traded To Philadelphiia; Won’t Formally Demand Trade Due To Public Backlash

[gmoney411]

Are you insane?

He literally quit on the Rockets last year.

Now hes quitting on the Nets. Won't play in games due to a made up injury. Giving piss poor effort. 1 year into a destination he demanded to be traded to.

For all of Kyrie's antics he always gives 100% on the floor when he plays for the Nets.

Last year Kyrie was the most consistent player for the Nets. Not fat ass Harden. He played the most games and was the only player to make All NBA.

LeBron and KD never stopped giving effort in the middle of the season. Or showed up fat and out of shape.

Oh wow he has to play a lot of minutes. Bo hoo. He gets to play with Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant. All while playing like ****.

And only for a few more weeks till KD comes back.

You want to feel bad for someone look at Damian Lillard. He has no help.

LeBron quit on the Cavs in a playoff series. KD is pretty reliable on the court though. He only quits by leaving a team.

He actually doesn't get to play with KD and Kyrie and that's kind of the point. He's spent his entire career as a superstar without reliable teammates. He had CP3 for one regular season before he broke down.

I don't feel bad for Harden, I just get how he'd want out of Brooklyn because he's back in a situation he so badly no longer wanted to be in with Houston. And the reason he's in that situation is because Kyrie has decided to make a decision that won't let him play most games.

LeBron never actually quit on the Cavs. He had a bad couple of games. It happens.

Show me clips of LeBron ever just not trying on defense. They don't exist.

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Leaving a team in Free Agency is not quitting. Not at all.

He played the vast majority of the season with either KD or Kyrie so stop making **** up. KD has been playing most of the season at an MVP level.

And since KD got injured nearly all of the games have been on the road. Meaning he had Kyrie. Harden has barely had to play any games by himself.

Not to mention that KD is coming back in 10 days! Poor Harden can't handle another week?

Hes not at all back in Houston. He has an MVP level player who is returning in a week. And an all star teammate who plays on the road.

I think he can handle a few games without them. Hes sitting most of them out anyway.

I said KD and Kyrie. Not KD or Kyrie. He came to play with both of them and that hasn't happened very much. And the reason it's not happening this year is because of Kyrie's choice. If there was ever a legit time for a player to say I didn't sign up for this, this situation is it.

[SelfishPlayer]

Brooklyn mortgaged their future for him
So far people are pointing to Harden being unprofessional. Asked for Rus-CP3 trade and after 1 year he was unhappy, came fat and late to training camp, threw everyone under the bus and asked to go to Brooklyn. Brooklyn traded their young guys + all their future first round picks basically. 1 year later...he is unhappy in Brooklyn. If anyone is getting judged is Harden, not Marks. Marks should be charged for hiring Nash and other stuff, but not this

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What about the Kyrie cave in? What about killing the culture that team established organically in favor of vagabond superstars?

I don't think anybody is defending Kyrie, other than anti-vaxxers. Brooklyn, and KD more specifically decided to go with 2 nut cases, and things exploded in their face earlier than expected. KD is like Lebron in LA, what he says Marks does. If he wanted Kyrie out, they would have traded him long time ago, and same goes with Harden

The organization changed their stance after preventing Irving from playing games. That's not defending Kyrie that's recognizing Brooklyn damaging the season of KD aka "the LeBron of Brooklyn." Brooklyn got in the way after the city recognized them as private. Foolish...

[rand]

Won't Harden have to leave a huge amount of $$$ on the table if he's forced to walk out of Brooklyn this summer rather than opting-in and being traded? Assuming Harden requires Philly to facilitate a larger payday than he can get by signing on with them in unrestricted free agency (and assuming Philly will assent to that requirement), I don't see how the Sixers have much if any leverage here at the deadline from the threat that Brooklyn would lose Harden for nothing.

Maybe I'm in the minority but I really like the potential of a Kyrie-Simmons-KD trio. Simmons is a great playmaker and defender and that fits very nicely along with two great scorers. I wouldn't love their chances this postseason with the new trio needing time to acclimate (and Kyrie's continuing vax-related absences) but if they could get one or two decent rotation players back along with Simmons (like Curry and/or Thybulle) I can easy see them coming out a better team next season. Not to mention Simmons is only 25 and perhaps still has his peak before him.

[Lalouie]

harden simmons straight up. after all the haggling and back and forth, they'll throw up their hands and say "f* it"

simmons is ready and harden is ready

[Onlytimewilltel]

harden simmons straight up. after all the haggling and back and forth, they'll throw up their hands and say "f* it"

simmons is ready and harden is ready

Harden, green, and a first rounder

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[DusterBuster]

Harden just straight up quitting on a second team in 2 years… heart of a champion lol.

[twozeroMM]

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If true, how much of a difference is it really? It's now known he wants out and wants to be in Philly. If it's now or in the summer, the damage is done.

[nitocobola]

Simmons curry and maybe a draft pick.

[DusterBuster]

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If true, how much of a difference is it really? It's now known he wants out and wants to be in Philly. If it's now or in the summer, the damage is done.

Yeah, if his mind is made up, then Sixer and Morey have leverage here. They can just get him in summer and probably gain assets in the process of dumping Simmons for cap space.

Only risk for Morey is upsetting Harden that he didn’t try harder at deadline and is forced to spend the last part of the year in Brooklyn.

Also, can we just say what a god awful team leader KD is? Every team he “leads” (aka, not GS) is full of unhappy 2nd/3rd stars.

[GatorbaitDD]

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If true, how much of a difference is it really? It's now known he wants out and wants to be in Philly. If it's now or in the summer, the damage is done.

I mean, he is asking out. He's just doing it through talking heads in the media and his agent instead of engaging Marks directly like a man.

If I'm the 76ers I get the deal done. Even if it costs me Thybulle & Curry. Embiid nor Harden are getting younger and with his track record, who knows how many seasons he will be fit/healthy for the playoff push.

[iLLmatic860]

Harden just straight up quitting on a second team in 2 years… heart of a champion lol.

As much as I hate Harden. He should get a pass on this. This is 100% on Kyrie

[DusterBuster]

Harden just straight up quitting on a second team in 2 years… heart of a champion lol.

As much as I hate Harden. He should get a pass on this. This is 100% on Kyrie

Plenty of blame to go around, KD and Kyrie. KD creates really toxic lockerooms, same with Kyrie. This was honestly a pretty easy outcome to predict (Nets being a hot mess franchise/lockerroom).

But Harden just straight up quitting on two teams in two years is insane. What’s to stop him from doing that in 2023 on the Sixers if he and Embiid aren’t getting along?

[Mamba81p]

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If true, how much of a difference is it really? It's now known he wants out and wants to be in Philly. If it's now or in the summer, the damage is done.

Yeah, if his mind is made up, then Sixer and Morey have leverage here. They can just get him in summer and probably gain assets in the process of dumping Simmons for cap space.

Only risk for Morey is upsetting Harden that he didn’t try harder at deadline and is forced to spend the last part of the year in Brooklyn.

Also, can we just say what a god awful team leader KD is? Every team he “leads” (aka, not GS) is full of unhappy 2nd/3rd stars.

They should have done with Harris what Blazers did with CJ. I think it's too late for that now. The cost to do that in the summer is going to be so high that it will just make more sense to do a sign in trade with Nets.

[DusterBuster]

If true, how much of a difference is it really? It's now known he wants out and wants to be in Philly. If it's now or in the summer, the damage is done.

Yeah, if his mind is made up, then Sixer and Morey have leverage here. They can just get him in summer and probably gain assets in the process of dumping Simmons for cap space.

Only risk for Morey is upsetting Harden that he didn’t try harder at deadline and is forced to spend the last part of the year in Brooklyn.

Also, can we just say what a god awful team leader KD is? Every team he “leads” (aka, not GS) is full of unhappy 2nd/3rd stars.

They should have done with Harris what Blazers did with CJ. I think it's too late for that now. It's going to be an insane cost to dump him in the summer, that it will just make more sense to do a sign in trade with Nets.

CJ was an easier contract to move than Harris. Harris is paid more AND has a trade kicker that makes him even more expensive iirc.

[DusterBuster]

I low key want this deal to go down, then Simmons refuse to report / play for Brooklyn lol.

[Hedda Gambler]

CJ was an easier contract to move than Harris. Harris is paid more AND has a trade kicker that makes him even more expensive iirc.

Harris signed a max deal, right? With the raises he`s been getting his salary is probably more than 30% of the cap, which means that a trade bonus would be forfeited. Besides, doesn`t the team who trade the player pay the trade kicker?

[DusterBuster]

CJ was an easier contract to move than Harris. Harris is paid more AND has a trade kicker that makes him even more expensive iirc.

Harris signed a max deal, right? With the raises he`s been getting his salary is probably more than 30% of the cap, which means that a trade bonus would be forfeited. Besides, doesn`t the team who trade the player pay the trade kicker?

I don’t think it was a full max. Also no, my understanding is the team trading for the player has to pay the kicker.

[art_tatum]

LeBron quit on the Cavs in a playoff series. KD is pretty reliable on the court though. He only quits by leaving a team.

He actually doesn't get to play with KD and Kyrie and that's kind of the point. He's spent his entire career as a superstar without reliable teammates. He had CP3 for one regular season before he broke down.

I don't feel bad for Harden, I just get how he'd want out of Brooklyn because he's back in a situation he so badly no longer wanted to be in with Houston. And the reason he's in that situation is because Kyrie has decided to make a decision that won't let him play most games.

LeBron never actually quit on the Cavs. He had a bad couple of games. It happens.

Show me clips of LeBron ever just not trying on defense. They don't exist.

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Leaving a team in Free Agency is not quitting. Not at all.

He played the vast majority of the season with either KD or Kyrie so stop making **** up. KD has been playing most of the season at an MVP level.

And since KD got injured nearly all of the games have been on the road. Meaning he had Kyrie. Harden has barely had to play any games by himself.

Not to mention that KD is coming back in 10 days! Poor Harden can't handle another week?

Hes not at all back in Houston. He has an MVP level player who is returning in a week. And an all star teammate who plays on the road.

I think he can handle a few games without them. Hes sitting most of them out anyway.

I said KD and Kyrie. Not KD or Kyrie. He came to play with both of them and that hasn't happened very much. And the reason it's not happening this year is because of Kyrie's choice. If there was ever a legit time for a player to say I didn't sign up for this, this situation is it.

To be honest I think this is just a red herring. Harden isn’t that pissed about having to carry a team while Kd is out. He knows kd will be back and regardless of kyrie, KD is good enough to play with for ANY player.

IMO the real reason harden wants out is bc he is seeing his brand fall off in Brooklyn. He’s not voted in as an all star starter. Harden in his mind is the best player or at least top 3. You see grumbling only start when the first all star returns were coming back and the lack of mentions as a top player in the media/online.

[K_chile22]

Remember when this board relentlessly made fun of the rockets for trading harden for "a bunch of picks at the end of the first round"? And now the team is blowing up ONE year in? Gotta love it