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Turk Nowitzki · Post #1781 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:03 pm

raferfenix wrote:I suspect Schroder’s agent is trying hard to pair him with his Greek clients.

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At this point, I would be a little surprised at a straight Donte/Schroder swap (plus whatever salary filler we need to include of course). I think Horst was trying to use that framework as a means to get Grant Williams in the deal which the Celtics aren't dumb enough to do.

StickeeFingaz · Post #1782 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:05 pm

Hopefully Horst gets in his bag today.

Matches Malone · Post #1783 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:13 pm

Think I’d rather hold onto Donte than trade him straight up for KCP or Dennis, unless we are getting something else in return.

SirChurros · Post #1784 » by **SirChurros** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:34 pm

Not really even a big Donte guy and I too would rather just hold onto him if we're just getting KCP or Dennis.

Ron Swanson · Post #1785 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:41 pm

We could have gotten Schroder for free in the offseason with the MLE so yeah, trading our only young player asset for him would be annoying. No thanks.

RogerMurdock · Post #1786 » by **RogerMurdock** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:41 pm

Agreed. I like KCP, but I thought he was a better shooter than he actually is. Donte still does some nice things defensively, is a pretty good passer, provides energy, and still has upside if he can stay healthy. A straight-up trade for either guy doesn't make much sense. Plus, whether it matters or not, I get the sense that Donte is very well-liked by his teammates (seems to be a theme with this team).

c00lhand208 · Post #1787 » by **c00lhand208** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:46 pm

G.Hill & Semi.O for R.Gay

Jazz gain a fairly sold vet backup PG on a reasonable short-term contract. And a guy who may need new scenery to find any confidence. If they don’t believe in him he’s an easy buyout; plus, I think the Jazz will be targeting an upgrade at PF/C. It also frees the Jazz from dealing with Gay’s contract going forward. Anyways, I think the Jazz might be looking to upgrade their backup PG & C/PF positions.

Milwaukee losses PG depth, but gains depth in the swing-man position that has the size to defend up in the front court. Give Donte more run at backup PG and look to scoop-up another guard vet (Satoransky? Bledsoe? Etc.) that’s able to handle the ball — sure to be some buyouts. And resign L.Kornet to the 10-day over G.Monroe.

LuessiT · Post #1788 » by **LuessiT** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:55 pm

I actually think KCP is a better player than Donte, but he's also making like 10m more. His contract is medium at best imo. Feel like we can do better for Donte in terms of value. Obviously value goes out of the way if it means winning a championship or not.

ShootingtheJ · Post #1789 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 2:58 pm

Josh Hart should be the target today.

Bulls get: Donte
Bucks get Josh Hart, 2nd from Bulls
Pelicans get: Jordan Nwora
Blazers get: Troy Brown, Rodney Hood, Semi Ojeleye, 2nd from NO, 2nd from Bulls

Hart gives us a rebounder and playmaker as an undersized defensive combo forward.

c00lhand208 · Post #1790 » by **c00lhand208** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:11 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:Josh Hart should be the target today.

Bulls get: Donte
Bucks get Josh Hart, 2nd from Bulls
Pelicans get: Jordan Nwora
Blazers get: Troy Brown, Rodney Hood, Semi Ojeleye, 2nd from NO, 2nd from Bulls

Hart gives us a rebounder and playmaker as an undersized defensive combo forward.

Would the Bucks gain Hart’s bird rights?

ABucksFan · Post #1791 » by **ABucksFan** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:15 pm

Josh Hart is a championship glue guy. Would love him on the team!

Rstuedes24 · Post #1792 » by **Rstuedes24** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:19 pm

Can we get Cam Reddish from the Knicks on the low?

Frank Nova · Post #1793 » by **Frank Nova** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:21 pm

Just wait until SAS buys out Tomas Santoransky. He can be a useful combo guard and we won’t have to trade an asset.

DDV Nwora and a 2nd for Derrick White and Thad Young?

Turk Nowitzki · Post #1794 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:24 pm

Frank Nova wrote:DDV Nwora and a 2nd for Derrick White and Thad Young?

Unfortunately the money on that doesn't even work for one of those guys much less both.

tski1972 · Post #1795 » by **tski1972** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:24 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Just wait until SAS buys out Tomas Santoransky. He can be a useful combo guard and we won’t have to trade an asset.

DDV Nwora and a 2nd for Derrick White and Thad Young?

White and Young almost make $30M combined, so that isn’t happening.

Ron Swanson · Post #1796 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:25 pm

Alright, I'm sold on the OKC trade:

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y8ed4rjy

Problem is, how much value do you add? Is the 2025 Indy 2nd-rounder enough?

emunney · Post #1797 » by **emunney** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:25 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
raferfenix wrote:I suspect Schroder’s agent is trying hard to pair him with his Greek clients.

Read on Twitter

At this point, I would be a little surprised at a straight Donte/Schroder swap (plus whatever salary filler we need to include of course). I think Horst was trying to use that framework as a means to get Grant Williams in the deal which the Celtics aren't dumb enough to do.

I don't think it'd be dumb, frankly. If Donte gets his feet back under him, he's easily twice the player Williams is. Just a calculated risk. I get that they don't want to do it but I don't see why it should be exciting to us.

soxperry · Post #1798 » by **soxperry** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:25 pm

c00lhand208 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Josh Hart should be the target today.

Bulls get: Donte
Bucks get Josh Hart, 2nd from Bulls
Pelicans get: Jordan Nwora
Blazers get: Troy Brown, Rodney Hood, Semi Ojeleye, 2nd from NO, 2nd from Bulls

Hart gives us a rebounder and playmaker as an undersized defensive combo forward.

Would the Bucks gain Hart’s bird rights?

I'm not sure. He's in the 1st year of a 3 year deal. So if traded to Mil he would spend 2.5 seasons with us, theoretically. Idk if that partial year counts as one year. What's also unclear to me is whether a player has to be one one team for 3 seasons or one contract for three seasons. After all, it's not his choice to be traded. To me, if a player has a three year contract and gets traded at any point, the team that has him at the end of those three seasons should have his bird rights. However, at the very least, we would for sure have his early bird rights as he would have two full seasons in Mil just as Bobby will have going into next offseason.

c00lhand208 · Post #1799 » by **c00lhand208** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:26 pm

Frank Nova wrote:DDV Nwora and a 2nd for Derrick White and Thad Young?

Salaries don’t work.

c00lhand208 · Post #1800 » by **c00lhand208** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 3:28 pm

soxperry wrote:
c00lhand208 wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:Josh Hart should be the target today.

Bulls get: Donte
Bucks get Josh Hart, 2nd from Bulls
Pelicans get: Jordan Nwora
Blazers get: Troy Brown, Rodney Hood, Semi Ojeleye, 2nd from NO, 2nd from Bulls

Hart gives us a rebounder and playmaker as an undersized defensive combo forward.

Would the Bucks gain Hart’s bird rights?

I'm not sure. He's in the 1st year of a 3 year deal. So if traded to Mil he would spend 2.5 seasons with us, theoretically. Idk if that partial year counts as one year. What's also unclear to me is whether a player has to be one one team for 3 seasons or one contract for three seasons. After all, it's not his choice to be traded. To me, if a player has a three year contract and gets traded at any point, the team that has him at the end of those three seasons should have his bird rights. However, at the very least, we would for sure have his early bird rights as he would have two full seasons in Mil just as Bobby will have going into next offseason.

Player option on 3rd. Likely to walk for a bigger contract if playing really well. So, is 1.5 years enough to ensure even early bird rights for Bucks?