Official Trade Deadline Thread: Ends 2.10 @ 3 PM EST

[MrDollarBills]

Can you imagine if we trade for Simmons and he needs to sit out idefinitely for mental health issues and the mandates don't lift. That would be the cherry on the turd sundae.

Simmons is vaccinated

[MrDollarBills]

I've thought about it more.

I'm just not doing it if I'm Marks.

As long as we get Harden back by the playoffs. And the mandate may be repealed. You have to take that chance.

Trading for Simmons with part time Kyrie ruins any chance we have to win this year.

I still fully believe we get Simmons if we wait for the off season. Philly has no other way of realistically getting cap space.

Worst case scenario is Philly finds a way to magically create the cap space. And then were left with what?

KD/Kyrie/Harris. Can resign Claxton. Bring in some new players. Its not the end of the world.

I would probably take us in a series over Philly with KD/Kyrie over Embiid/Harden anyway.

But Ben Simmons is not a deal breaker for me. And I'm not totally sold hes the right fit.

This is the best Nets team we will ever get. Go down swinging.

If the Nets win a title Harden will not leave. Mark my words.

Harden doesn't want to be here. Do you want this situation to become even more toxic than it already is?

[NetsJets]

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[LOUiS-D]

Can you imagine if we trade for Simmons and he needs to sit out idefinitely for mental health issues and the mandates don't lift. That would be the cherry on the turd sundae.

Simmons is vaccinated

I'm talking about a scenario where neither Simmons or Kai are available and Nash rides KD into the ground... and we all become Cavs fans

[Prokorov]

Frustrating.
I’m not hearing about Marks even trying to improve the roster.
It’s not like star swapping helps us.
Ben can’t be on the court with traditional bigs and certainly not with non shooting perimeter players.
He has to have legitimate spacing. A problem we’ve had all season.

We could just improve the roster but this guy just loves his role players. It was clear well before the deadline and the losing but no. Another high profile dysfunctional NY sports team. Easiest build ever. Just refuses and no blames him, which is probably why he refuses. Crowned best GM in the league and the contending chance to prove it..egg.

I don't think spacing is an issue if Curry is added.

Kyrie | Curry | Durant is a TON of shooting. Add mills or Harris when he gets back and thats GOAT spacing. Simmons would have 2-3 super elite shooters at all times.

Simmons + Kyrie/Durant/Curry or Harris
Simmons + Mills/Curry
Simmons + Harris/Curry
Simmons + KD/Mills

etc. We dont play a traditional center now. I can see lineups where Ben/KD are out "bigs"

Also, I would be SHOCKED if its just a 2 team trade or we dont follow this trade up with another move that fits. We would likely end up with 1-3 picks and someone like Milton that could be re-routed for a SF who fits better. Or even re-routing Simmons for Fox

[MrDollarBills]

I don’t blame him. I would too if I were him.

Yep. I would want out too knowing that Nash is going to play him 40 mins in these home games while Kyrie is at home chilling.

All of this boils down to Kyrie. All of it.

How can you defend quitting on the team?

Who cares if Harden has to carry the load for another week for just home games?

He has **** Kevin Durant.

You think Embiid is the epitome of health? What happens when he gets injured and Harden is stuck carrying the Sixers?

Does he demand a trade somewhere else?

Because Kyrie is basically hanging Harden out to dry when he has to carry this crap roster by himself during home games.

And when we lose because Harden gets swarmed by multiple defenders because he's out there with Brown, Bembry and some rookies, you'll be one of the first people on here calling him a piece of sh*t.

[Fallout_3]

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He just know nothing. At all.

[Prokorov]

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He just know nothing. At all.

Marks got him a job he was drastically unqualified for. You think he is going to say anything to hurt marks?

[Suwanee]

On the Patty Mills comment (about Harden looking fine), Nash also said Harden was just there to cheer for the team. The conspiracists on here believe they're two conflicting comments. But are they?

[GTR11]

Yep. I would want out too knowing that Nash is going to play him 40 mins in these home games while Kyrie is at home chilling.

All of this boils down to Kyrie. All of it.

How can you defend quitting on the team?

Who cares if Harden has to carry the load for another week for just home games?

He has **** Kevin Durant.

You think Embiid is the epitome of health? What happens when he gets injured and Harden is stuck carrying the Sixers?

Does he demand a trade somewhere else?

Because Kyrie is basically hanging Harden out to dry when he has to carry this crap roster by himself during home games.

And when we lose because Harden gets swarmed by multiple defenders because he's out there with Brown, Bembry and some rookies, you'll be one of the first people on here calling him a piece of sh*t.

Bro, do t sweat it. It's over, time to move on. Sad thing is that lessons won't be learned. It is what it is. I mean look at the world we living in right now.

[HardenGoat]

If the mandate doesn't lift we are toast anyways. An unfocussed Harden going into the playoffs with Kyrie showing up on the road games is an exit waiting to happen. If I were Durant I would have put Kyrie on the chopping block a month ago and let him make his decision.

[Marvin Martian]

If the mandate doesn't lift we are toast anyways. An unfocussed Harden going into the playoffs with Kyrie showing up on the road games is not going to go anywhere. If I were Durant I would have put Kyrie on the chopping block a month ago and let him make his decision.

The vaccine mandate will never be lifted. Only the mask mandate. Lifting the vaccine mandate is a slap to their faces of millions of NYers who begrudgingly took the shot. The Nets cannot commit long term to Irving if he doesn't get vaccinated.

[HardenGoat]

Woj has confirmed what most people on here realized days ago: Harden wants out. If you're going to sit here and tell me that Harden and Kyrie are tight like brothers or whatever, that time has passed.

There is no reason to keep Harden here if he wants out. The damage has been done.

Harden is the one who insisted Kyrie can't be in and out of the games at the start. That's why when the call was made to bring him back things went sour and the locker room took a dive. It's the reason from the beginning why Harden has lacked focus all year, only got worse. Harden insisted he had to be all in on the mission and initially they tried to appease him. Durant was most likely just on the fence. That's my opinion but seems to line up with the way it went down

[GYK]

Frustrating.
I’m not hearing about Marks even trying to improve the roster.
It’s not like star swapping helps us.
Ben can’t be on the court with traditional bigs and certainly not with non shooting perimeter players.
He has to have legitimate spacing. A problem we’ve had all season.

We could just improve the roster but this guy just loves his role players. It was clear well before the deadline and the losing but no. Another high profile dysfunctional NY sports team. Easiest build ever. Just refuses and no blames him, which is probably why he refuses. Crowned best GM in the league and the contending chance to prove it..egg.

I don't think spacing is an issue if Curry is added.

Kyrie | Curry | Durant is a TON of shooting. Add mills or Harris when he gets back and thats GOAT spacing. Simmons would have 2-3 super elite shooters at all times.

Simmons + Kyrie/Durant/Curry or Harris
Simmons + Mills/Curry
Simmons + Harris/Curry
Simmons + KD/Mills

etc. We dont play a traditional center now. I can see lineups where Ben/KD are out "bigs"

Also, I would be SHOCKED if its just a 2 team trade or we dont follow this trade up with another move that fits. We would likely end up with 1-3 picks and someone like Milton that could be re-routed for a SF who fits better. Or even re-routing Simmons for Fox

Sir. Sir. This isn’t going nowhere you believe in basketball completely differently than I do. Modern NBA is 4 out 1 in spacing. If you consider backups 8 shooters is needed. That’s generous cause it implies every team is a 10 man rotation. Nevertheless of the rotation spacing has to come from every available out player because you can’t determine where the ball goes. Non shooters aren’t going to be guarded. They will be sagged off of making it harder for scorers(see every game against top 4 teams in either conference). Unless we are transforming the playstyle to mimic the Warriors in which Kyrie/Durant are expected to be off ball players I don’t see how maximum spacing isn’t necessary for a Ben Simmons team. Something anyone would have said before these rumors. The things that were said on why he Joel wouldn’t work. He has to be around 4 shooters at all times. Something we should’ve did for our 3 but that was apparently too much.

Also it’s foolish if you believe he’s spending the bulk of his minutes at center on any team. That’s not happening and probably wouldn’t be beneficial. He’s a great defender but that’s not his body type.

[Paradise]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Ben Simmons one of our draft picks we conveyed to Boston?

[GutUNC]

If the Sixers want Mills too, they're giving up Maxey, Thybulle, Curry, and a bunch of picks. The Nets are not gifting them the two most reliable players in the trade.

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

I'm similar:

Baseline: Simmons + 2024 1st. Non-negotiable

Choose 1: Mxey or Curry
Choose 1: Thybule or Korkmax + 2026 1st
Choose 1: Milton, Springer, or 2022 1st

Mills talk ends trade no matter who you add.

FYI - Sixers 2025 1st is OKCs (top 6 protected) so Stepian would be in play.

[XtremeDunkz]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t Ben Simmons one of our draft picks we conveyed to Boston?

No that was Fultz

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[MrDollarBills]

If the Sixers want Mills too, they're giving up Maxey, Thybulle, Curry, and a bunch of picks. The Nets are not gifting them the two most reliable players in the trade.

I'm with Geltzeiler who said the Nets need 2 of Maxey, Curry, Thybulle plus at least 2 picks. Sixers can pick which player they want to keep.

I lay out the following options & let Morey decide what he wants to do:
Harden & Millsap for Simmons+Thybulle+ one 1st +
Option A) Maxey
Option B) Curry + one more 1st (get back Brown & Carter)
Option C) 2 more 1sts

The same fanbase that state the Nets should take anything they can get for Harden have had Ben sitting out all season.

As far as the threat of signing Harden outright goes, the Sixers would need to get to about $76mil in team salary (after cap holds for roster spots & picks) to even get in the Harden ballpark (Harden would still be leaving some money on the table). That means they have to pay whatever it takes to get no salary back for Tobias & Simmons (the thought that teams will give Philly cap space & picks for Simmons is ludicrous) & renounce Green. Harris, while overpaid, is currently a better player than Maxey, Curry or Thybulle. One would think the Sixers are better off with Harris as the third best player than Maxey (who you could argue would be hampered by the presence of Harden) or Curry. I'm not sure why fans are quicker to attach picks to be rid Harris & in turn Green than one or two of Maxey, Curry & Thybulle.

I'm similar:

Baseline: Simmons + 2024 1st. Non-negotiable

Choose 1: Mxey or Curry
Choose 1: Thybule or Korkmax + 2026 1st
Choose 1: Milton, Springer, or 2022 1st

Mills talk ends trade no matter who you add.

I'm with you both here. Mills is not being traded

[Prokorov]

If the mandate doesn't lift we are toast anyways. An unfocussed Harden going into the playoffs with Kyrie showing up on the road games is not going to go anywhere. If I were Durant I would have put Kyrie on the chopping block a month ago and let him make his decision.

The vaccine mandate will never be lifted. Only the mask mandate. Lifting the vaccine mandate is a slap to their faces of millions of NYers who begrudgingly took the shot. The Nets cannot commit long term to Irving if he doesn't get vaccinated.

Of course it will be lifted. just a matter of when.

[CalamityX12]

Ok, signed on to realgm at work for today's special day.... my phone can't take it anymore lol

First, Mills cannot be traded. that's a no. fracking no. no **** way. reasons already stated but recap, he's only PG left when Ky isn't around, best 3pt shooter(streaky w.e). good ass man in the head and proven player on the court(vet exp top). No. NO... he cannot go at all.

Harden, it has to be done. While I agree and understand the now Kawai leonard approach in using him as rental for the year. I get it and for it if it means hes out in the summer. However, he cannot come back into that lockerroom after all this noise and burning bridges with top players and fanbase. There's no going back from it, get a deal done.

Simmons, Curry n 1st with Thybulle rerouting to elsewhere for that team's player preferably shooter/scorer.