WOJ: Harden, Millsap for Simmons, Curry, Drummons, Two #1's

Hello Brooklyn · Post #41 » by **Hello Brooklyn** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:54 pm

djsunyc wrote:

Read on Twitter

What a **** ****,

He really invented a nickname and then left. After even giving the team a real chance.

Man I hate this guy so much.

MrDollarBills · Post #42 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:58 pm

draftbarnes wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:Nets win this trade, Harden has declined and I think there will be issues chemistry wise in Philly and Harden will choke when it matters most. Simmons is a beast defensively who will work on his game and Curry/Mills will be a dynamic duo as spot up shooters. Also, Woj says Nets ain't done, I smell a Joe Harris/Clax/Pics trade coming very soon for a J.Grant type of player. Nets will be formidable.

Did harden decline or did he actually stop trying? I watched the kings game and he look like he quit. He needs to lose weight for sure.

He's not in the best shape and his game has declined in terms of his shooting and finishing at the rim. He also played really slow and turned the ball over like crazy.

Fallout_3 · Post #43 » by **Fallout_3** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:58 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Today was a win for us. Yall wanted to really hold Harden hostage after you bitched about him sucking for MONTHS? LMAO. make up your minds.

THIS.

draftbarnes · Post #44 » by **draftbarnes** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:58 pm

k:

GYK wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
GYK wrote:well Brooklyn/Philly rivalry just got real.
Hope our day isn’t over Bruce/Nic/Carter/Cam aren’t needed. Would be nice to get a wing and/or an actual stretch five.
I accept for a fact they aren’t ever moving Joe. He’s valued only 2nd to Durant by this team. Very clear.

Marks and Morey are smart GMs...

they wont let this deal go final until they suck all the value out of it. They will bring in a third team to take ancillary pieces and get the bang for their buck on the salary matching that is allowed with Harden involved.

We have alot more then we started the day with for smaller trades. We can now trade:

-3 1st round picks
-Harris
-Claxton/Brown/Milsap/Carter/Johnson
-Cam/Sharpe/Duke

If we can land Dragic in the buyout and make some smaller moves we look really great not just this year but the next few

Marks just had a terrible off-season traded for players all year this board said they didn’t want. He let go of why they were the best offense. Idc if you made a 8th seed. He fumbled the easiest dynasty ever. Marks is a bum. He has to win. Got your imitation Warriors team. Congrats.

Nothing in my soul tells me they are trading Joe. They didn’t want to trade him for James Harden. They certainly not trading him with Ben on the roster. I know your beliefs on spacing but no.

Cam, Nic, Brown, Carter are the pieces that are likely to paired to get someone and hopefully it’s a god damn 3&D wing. Patty, Curry, Joe, Kessler, LMA is great that’s a huge plus. A wing now allows for Ben to Draymond the backend while that person that’s on the backcourt threat.

So I assume you hate this deal?

Prokorov · Post #45 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:01 pm

RoyceDa59 wrote:This is a fantastic trade.

Simmons value at an all time low. I truly don’t think you’re appreciating his defensive impact and versatility. He’s also only 25.

Curry the best sniper in the game.

Nets stacked.

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Yeah I know it got ugly in Philly but this isnt a guy who fell of a cliff and sucked... he was really just bad in the playoffs, he is coming off a great season:

15/8/7 59 TS% and All-NBA defense.

Maybe he has some head issues maybe he has some ego issue but honestly this is the rare situation where Kyrie/KD are perfect teammates from a leadership spot. No one deals with more media scrutiny and being called a headcase then those 2 and they know how to drown out that noise.

Shooter or not, 25 year old 2-way all stars dont come along often,

Shark · Post #46 » by **Shark** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:02 pm

draftbarnes wrote:
KD35Netted wrote:Nets win this trade, Harden has declined and I think there will be issues chemistry wise in Philly and Harden will choke when it matters most. Simmons is a beast defensively who will work on his game and Curry/Mills will be a dynamic duo as spot up shooters. Also, Woj says Nets ain't done, I smell a Joe Harris/Clax/Pics trade coming very soon for a J.Grant type of player. Nets will be formidable.

Did harden decline or did he actually stop trying? I watched the kings game and he look like he quit. He needs to lose weight for sure.

IMO it's a combo. The fact that he isn't fit has affected his attacking ability as well as not getting the calls he used to. But he definitely quit sometime in the past two weeks. The fact that Mills came out and said he looked like himself in shoot around was a major red flag.

It is what it is honestly.

sashaturiaf · Post #47 » by **sashaturiaf** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:02 pm

As a fan I think the biggest thing you want out of this trade is that Kyrie just gets the shot and can play full time, as good as Harden's vision and facilitating was his game was painful to watch at times and having Kyrie and Ben lead the break would be a breath of fresh air.

Suwanee · Post #48 » by **Suwanee** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:02 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:Harden didn't want to be here... Sucks, but not much you can do.

Here's to hoping Simmons bucks up and plays like he did to start his career... Also my gut says Joe is done for the year, anyone have an update?

I'd be fine with how he played last year:

15/8/7 on 59 TS% and All-NBA defense

Alot is put on the playoffs and that meltdown but he was a fantastic player last season. fantastic. Embiid is great but you could double him. We have Kyrie/KD who can get their shot off against anyone and its hard to double both

LOL. Simmons was utter trash according to you when people including me propose trading for him not long ago. But now he’s fantastic. Just LOL

Post #49 » by **CalamityX12** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:03 pm

Think the value works, though surprised not even thybulle coming back but we got 1sts...

Drummond n Blake reunited btw lol

As long as Simmons is going to play, I imagine so or else why trade?, thus we should feel pretty excited

Also we may not be done

Stone · Post #50 » by **Stone** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:03 pm

Patty was asked if this changes the mood in the locker room and said 'yes'.

Prokorov · Post #51 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:03 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:I love the deal. i was hoping Marks would have gotten Thybulle but getting two 1st rd picks is pretty sweet.

Curry adds a much needed shooter and drummond provides another big body for us an makes Claxton or Sharpe a trade piece in a potential deal to land Grant.

Today was a win for us. Yall wanted to really hold Harden hostage after you bitched about him sucking for MONTHS? LMAO. make up your minds.

Yup, nail on the head MDB.

You know im not a drummond/rebounding guy but KD loves him and i dont think we need to worry about rebounding now.

I think people will soon remember how good simmons is. He cant shoot but i mean, its not like we havent had 2-3 non-shooters in our lineup for a month now. And we have the spacing to put around him to make it work.

Fallout_3 · Post #52 » by **Fallout_3** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:06 pm

The real cancer was Harden. You will see it.

haosmoove · Post #53 » by **haosmoove** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:07 pm

Stone wrote:Patty was asked if this changes the mood in the locker room and said 'yes'.

There's probably a lot going on behind the scene that we as fans don't know about. Nets are vastly underperforming this season probably resonates with the rumors that the morale is low.

draftbarnes · Post #54 » by **draftbarnes** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:07 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:As a fan I think the biggest thing you want out of this trade is that Kyrie just gets the shot and can play full time, as good as Harden's vision and facilitating was his game was painful to watch at times and having Kyrie and Ben lead the break would be a breath of fresh air.

Why would this trade make kyrie get the shot?

Stone · Post #55 » by **Stone** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:07 pm

I think the trade is good for both team and the NBA in general. Seth Curry is a nice piece.

This is also going to be a fun new rivalry for us and Philly.

djsunyc · Post #56 » by **djsunyc** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:08 pm

simmons guarding harden in philly during the playoffs? that's must see tv.

Prokorov · Post #57 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:09 pm

This was LAST season

Watch on YouTube

Even the low end expectations you have for Simmons should be high. This is a #1 pick who panned out.

Karate Diop · Post #58 » by **Karate Diop** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:10 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Karate Diop wrote:Harden didn't want to be here... Sucks, but not much you can do.

Here's to hoping Simmons bucks up and plays like he did to start his career... Also my gut says Joe is done for the year, anyone have an update?

I'd be fine with how he played last year:

15/8/7 on 59 TS% and All-NBA defense

Alot is put on the playoffs and that meltdown but he was a fantastic player last season. fantastic. Embiid is great but you could double him. We have Kyrie/KD who can get their shot off against anyone and its hard to double both

Numbers are fine but the mentality and approach wasn't great. Focus and effort weren't always there... Much like Harden this year :lol:

duppyy · Post #59 » by **duppyy** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:11 pm

I hope Simmons balls out for you guys, I hate Morey and Harden so good luck!

Suwanee · Post #60 » by **Suwanee** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:12 pm

Stone wrote:I think the trade is good for both team and the NBA in general. Seth Curry is a nice piece.

This is also going to be a fun new rivalry for us and Philly.

Yes I agree it’s a win win for both teams. But I think Philly made out better. Ben Simmons was never gonna play for them again anyway. So it’s like Curry + 2FRP straight up for Harden. That’s an absolute steal.

Your thoughts on the deal