Welcome James Harden!

FlyingArrow · Post #21 » by **FlyingArrow** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:54 pm

HopelessKnick wrote:Good trade considering the overall situation. If Kyrie can play the Nets and Sixers are the two best teams in the east hands down.

It gives Embiid what he deserves---at least a legit 2-3 year window for a title. Harden signing the supermax is a little concerning at his age but I think only the last year may suck........Sixers have a real shot at a title.....

Supermax stinks for the owners. If the owners are willing to pay luxury tax, it doesn't have much impact on fans. It just means a couple of years where we can't sign free agents.

doctor him · Post #22 » by **doctor him** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:54 pm

Skates wrote:
doctor him wrote:
Arsenal wrote:This must be what it felt like when we traded for Moses Malone.

It is. I remember.

Gonna put this second to that deal. The moment we received Moses we knew we had a CHIP coming, put us well over the top. This is one step down, but still feels pretty damn good. This is more like being on the other end of the Barkley trade, and the Malone trade was also an outright steal by comparison.

Moses deal was Caldwell Jones (who he was replacing) and 2 late 1st round picks where the Sixers had picks from earlier deals that would turn into top 7 picks in the coming years.

Prokorov · Post #23 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:57 pm

Congrats Philly fans... you got your guy!

Harden has played like 85-90% of what he was last year, but he was slowed coming off the hammy and is probably nursing it a bit now and was run down by Nash. Hopefully he returns to form for you guys. Even at 90%, dude is a stud. And trades usually rejuvenate stars a bit.

People point to officiating but I wouldn't worry, after a rough couple weeks he was back to getting to the line as much as he did last year. He is sitll getting 3-4 less FTs then he should because they for some reason still target him be he adjusted and is still getting a ton of FTs.

As i said in the other thread, the minimum i could stomach was Simmons + Curry + 1st. we got a bit more then that and I'm happy with the return. I think this will work out for both teams. especially since you will pay him less then if it was a S&T

mithrandir17 · Post #24 » by **mithrandir17** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 6:59 pm

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Primetiime · Post #25 » by **Primetiime** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:00 pm

Prokorov wrote:Congrats Philly fans... you got your guy!

Harden has played like 85-90% of what he was last year, but he was slowed coming off the hammy and is probably nursing it a bit now and was run down by Nash. Hopefully he returns to form for you guys. Even at 90%, dude is a stud. And trades usually rejuvenate stars a bit.

People point to officiating but I wouldn't worry, after a rough couple weeks he was back to getting to the line as much as he did last year. He is sitll getting 3-4 less FTs then he should because they for some reason still target him be he adjusted and is still getting a ton of FTs.

As i said in the other thread, the minimum i could stomach was Simmons + Curry + 1st. we got a bit more then that and I'm happy with the return. I think this will work out for both teams. especially since you will pay him less then if it was a S&T

Enjoy Curry, We loved him in his time here. Drummond was a nice Reserve for Embiid as well so he will be missed.

As for Simmons...I will be nice and say good luck. lol. For his career sake, Hopefully all that happened here in Philly will allow him to grow and become the player we all wanted him to be before he did what he did.

Sixersftw · Post #26 » by **Sixersftw** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:04 pm

I wonder what number he's picking? It clearly wont be 13.

Prokorov · Post #27 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:12 pm

What should we know about simmons... like on the court. The mental health/ego whatever will be what it is... but who simmons on the court?

-Can he play big (PF/C)
-Can he be a roll man?
-Can he defend 1-5?
-What positives are their offensively, we know he cant shoot
-Is there any player he owns/shuts down or gives him trouble?

sodmoraes · Post #28 » by **sodmoraes** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:17 pm

People from Philly gotta hook him up with the best striper joints and cheese steaks restaurants in town

stormi · Post #29 » by **stormi** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:18 pm

This is so insane.

FireMorey · Post #30 » by **FireMorey** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:19 pm

The dynamic of Philly fans is interesting. The majority of Sixers fans on social media desperately wanted the trade to happen. The majority of fans who called into sports radio the last few days didn't. I heard a caller yesterday who said he didn't want Harden because he's a loser who never won anything.

And then he followed that up by saying "The guy the Sixers really should be targeting is Bradley Beal"

sixers4real · Post #31 » by **sixers4real** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:19 pm

Am i alive or completely drunk? It's 5 AM in my city lol

mjkvol · Post #32 » by **mjkvol** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:21 pm

Damn, is the rest of this season gonna be fun, or what? This kind of thing makes the grind of the last couple of years worthwhile.

mjkvol · Post #33 » by **mjkvol** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:24 pm

Primetiime wrote:
Prokorov wrote:Congrats Philly fans... you got your guy!

Harden has played like 85-90% of what he was last year, but he was slowed coming off the hammy and is probably nursing it a bit now and was run down by Nash. Hopefully he returns to form for you guys. Even at 90%, dude is a stud. And trades usually rejuvenate stars a bit.

People point to officiating but I wouldn't worry, after a rough couple weeks he was back to getting to the line as much as he did last year. He is sitll getting 3-4 less FTs then he should because they for some reason still target him be he adjusted and is still getting a ton of FTs.

As i said in the other thread, the minimum i could stomach was Simmons + Curry + 1st. we got a bit more then that and I'm happy with the return. I think this will work out for both teams. especially since you will pay him less then if it was a S&T

Enjoy Curry, We loved him in his time here. Drummond was a nice Reserve for Embiid as well so he will be missed.

As for Simmons...I will be nice and say good luck. lol. For his career sake, Hopefully all that happened here in Philly will allow him to grow and become the player we all wanted him to be before he did what he did.

If he had showed up and played this year, I would feel the same way. But the selfishness and childishness of what he pulled makes it impossible to ever root for him. I don't wish bad on him, it's just as if he doesn't even exist.

mjkvol · Post #34 » by **mjkvol** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:27 pm

Prokorov wrote:Congrats Philly fans... you got your guy!

Harden has played like 85-90% of what he was last year, but he was slowed coming off the hammy and is probably nursing it a bit now and was run down by Nash. Hopefully he returns to form for you guys. Even at 90%, dude is a stud. And trades usually rejuvenate stars a bit.

People point to officiating but I wouldn't worry, after a rough couple weeks he was back to getting to the line as much as he did last year. He is sitll getting 3-4 less FTs then he should because they for some reason still target him be he adjusted and is still getting a ton of FTs.

As i said in the other thread, the minimum i could stomach was Simmons + Curry + 1st. we got a bit more then that and I'm happy with the return. I think this will work out for both teams. especially since you will pay him less then if it was a S&T

Hated to see Curry go, as he and Joel had really developed a nice chemistry and he had some big moments here. You'll love him, and he should thrive with all the space he'll have in your offense.

ConstableChaos · Post #35 » by **ConstableChaos** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:27 pm

what did the sixers initially offer houston for harden? package cant have been to dissimilar to this?

sixerserpent · Post #36 » by **sixerserpent** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:28 pm

So, when do we think we'll get to see him suit up? celtics? Is the cavs game saturday a pipe dream?

Murray_17 · Post #37 » by **Murray_17** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:32 pm

Prokorov wrote:What should we know about simmons... like on the court. The mental health/ego whatever will be what it is... but who simmons on the court?

-Can he play big (PF/C)
-Can he be a roll man?
-Can he defend 1-5?
-What positives are their offensively, we know he cant shoot
-Is there any player he owns/shuts down or gives him trouble?

His finishing around the rim is ssketchy, he can finish but he get spoked if he fall 2 or 3 shots on a row.

He can play PF but you would need to convince him he's not a PG, offensively he can roll to the basket, he has a high IQ and he see the floor pretty well.

He can defend 1 to 4, 5 are difficult if the big is massive like Joel or people like Giannis that can outmuscle but he can stop wings pretty much totally.

But he givesyou a lot of flexbility and allows you to run Durant/Simmons defensive line ups that are going to be pretty fun for you

Murray_17 · Post #38 » by **Murray_17** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:42 pm

I can believe he also opted IN.

What a day lol

9th Wonder · Post #39 » by **9th Wonder** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:56 pm

Murray_17 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:What should we know about simmons... like on the court. The mental health/ego whatever will be what it is... but who simmons on the court?

-Can he play big (PF/C)
-Can he be a roll man?
-Can he defend 1-5?
-What positives are their offensively, we know he cant shoot
-Is there any player he owns/shuts down or gives him trouble?

His finishing around the rim is ssketchy, he can finish but he get spoked if he fall 2 or 3 shots on a row.

He can play PF but you would need to convince him he's not a PG, offensively he can roll to the basket, he has a high IQ and he see the floor pretty well.

He can defend 1 to 4, 5 are difficult if the big is massive like Joel or people like Giannis that can outmuscle but he can stop wings pretty much totally.

But he givesyou a lot of flexbility and allows you to run Durant/Simmons defensive line ups that are going to be pretty fun for you

- One of the best transition players in the game.
- Great at finding open shooters.
- Can be a roll man but wasn't featured in that role much in Philly (his best scoring game was last year against Utah where he played the 5 and destroyed Gobert...but that lineup won't hold defensively because one thing he can't do is protect the basket).
- Most of his scoring comes from athleticism. He's not great at finishing in traffic or off of post-ups. Brooklyn's lineup is a much better fit with his offensive strengths than Philly's. He really gummed up the offence here by hiding in the dunker's spot. In BKN he'll have more options in the half court.

- He can limit or lock down anyone that isn't bigger than him. Unfortunately, he won't do much individually against Embiid or Giannis but will be good in a team concept.
- Good rebounder that will turn boards into transition opportunities.

HardenGoat · Post #40 » by **HardenGoat** » Thu Feb 10, 2022 7:58 pm

I come with the package as well! :wave:

Long time Harden fan, Morey will know how best to utilize him and get the pieces that fit. He ran into a situation where Kyrie failed to commit to the team fully and Durant could not change that. Whether that is because they already have their rings is debatable. This is a perfect situation with Embiid to get a chip!