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Post#1 » by Paradise » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:00 am

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Post#3 » by CalamityX12 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:22 am

Please give us hope lol
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Post#4 » by NyCeEvO » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:09 am

Paradise wrote:Ben Simmons vs The Nets:


2nd and 4th videos are highlights of the same game by different groups.
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Post#5 » by Paradise » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:13 am

NyCeEvO wrote:
Paradise wrote:Ben Simmons vs The Nets:


2nd and 4th videos are highlights of the same game by different groups.

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The Official BK Ben Simmons Thread  

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Post#7 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:37 am

Let's hope Kyle Korver can help fix his shot. :pray: :biggrin:
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Post#8 » by Marvin Martian » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:02 am

_Und3r][D4wg_ wrote:Let's hope Kyle Korver can help fix his shot. :pray: :biggrin:

I don't think there is anything wrong with his shot. The problem is that he is lacking confidence. And the Sixers allowed him to hide that confidence because they were too good too fast. He would have developed better on a bad team.

I hope the Nets do not follow their example. Simmons is not a player you want to hide. He is player you want to unleash.
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Post#9 » by ecuhus1981 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:21 am

Welcome, Ben. Let's embrace this moment, grow together and win it all! Go Brooklyn!
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Post#10 » by Tomjas » Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:25 am

As a Sixers fan, I wish Simmons well

IF his head is right, you will be much improved with that trade
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Post#11 » by gigantes » Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:33 pm

So now the Nets get a crack at solving this puzzle. I wonder what approach they take.

Does Marks go with a traditional approach of 1) 'we need to get this guy's FT shot and bunny-jumper working at the very least, maybe his long-range shot working with time?' or does he go more 2) 'we've seen how badly things can go when he's pushed in that direction, so we're going to totally work around those things and just encourage what he's best at / confident in.'

If the former, then how to go about that in ways different from the Sixers? If the latter, then what to do about the fact that the guy's game may shrink with time, or shrink as the pressure of the playoffs proceeds?

I hope Marks consults with the best available people to unlock this puzzle, because it would be nice tap more of his potential than the Sixers were able to.
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Post#12 » by Primetiime » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:57 pm

gigantes wrote:So now the Nets get a crack at solving this puzzle. I wonder what approach they take.

Does Marks go with a traditional approach of 1) 'we need to get this guy's FT shot and bunny-jumper working at the very least, maybe his long-range shot working with time?' or does he go more 2) 'we've seen how badly things can go when he's pushed in that direction, so we're going to totally work around those things and just encourage what he's best at / confident in.'

If the former, then how to go about that in ways different from the Sixers? If the latter, then what to do about the fact that the guy's game may shrink with time, or shrink as the pressure of the playoffs proceeds?

I hope Marks consults with the best available people to unlock this puzzle, because it would be nice tap more of his potential than the Sixers were able to.

I don't think anyone on the outside is going to fix the problems. Ben has to want to want to fix them and maybe the whole situation with the sixers was the spark he needed.

He should not be shooting left handed but that is far too long gone and will have to be left alone at this point. Hopefully he's in the lab and working on his free throw form and getting it to a respectable 65-70%. That should be priority #1. If he can do that, Hack-a-simmons will not be a thing anymore and that alone will be a huge step in the right direction especially in the playoffs.

His confidence to go up near the basket & absorb contact will skyrocket if he can at least know he can knock down free throws. As the world saw, his confidence at the line went into the gutter and then he was terrified to even go near the rim in fear someone would foul him. Look at how well he finished near the basket early in his career compared to his inability to do that now-a-days.If he gains back that confidence at the line it will return his game back to the guy that could give you a consistent 16/8/8 at minimum every night and be a weapon on both offense and defense.

I supported Ben as did 95% of Sixers fans even when the basketball world was laughing at him. I did not like how he handled the criticism and obviously that's when his supporters began to turn on him but I still hope that some day he can turn into the player we all thought he could be early in his career. Go back and watch his summer league tape and 'rookie' year tape. If you told me that player would be the player we see today I would have laughed at you. Kid looked like he was going to be something truly special. Good luck Ben and the Nets.
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Post#13 » by Stone » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:31 pm

Obviously there is going to be an enormous spotlight on him in the first few weeks. Do we ease him in or do we throw in the water sink or swim?

A new environment could be all that is needed. It is also possible that Kyrie and his for lack of a better description "People first, basketball second" could take a lot of pressure off Ben. KD isn't the throw em under bus type either so there's that also.

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Post#14 » by kcbworth » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:53 pm

Hopefully Patty Mills will fix Ben. I think it's quite plausible that he could
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Post#15 » by GYK » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:14 pm

His free throw shooting is the only concern and as he improves there he’s undeniably great. Just a true consistent +65% FT shooter is the goal. A Duncan like FT shooter.

Upsetting that we didn’t move on from Bruce/Carter. But also brought in nothing resembling a stretch 5. There’s no reason to make things tougher for him playing next to Drummond/Sharpe/Nic/Blake(all good players but the importance of fit again is overlooked when it comes to support. No Ben or even Giannis team is holding 4 non shooter 5’s).
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Post#16 » by MGrand15 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:20 pm

I had a vision that Ben used this time off to start shooting right handed and we're getting him as a 40% high volume 3pt shooter.
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Post#17 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:43 pm

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Post#18 » by Netaman » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:41 pm

Sam Vecenie's article recapping the trade and analyzing the fit is the best one i've read so far (the athletic $).

https://theathletic.com/3123485/2022/02/11/vecenie-can-ben-simmons-unlock-his-inner-draymond-green-how-will-james-harden-fit-next-to-joel-embiid/

here's a good excerpt:

In the case of Simmons in Brooklyn, it’s so much more theoretical. To be successful, Simmons will need to adjust his playing style from that of a sort-of point guard to more of a Draymond Green-style big. With Kyrie Irving, you have the point guard the 76ers lacked all of the years Simmons was there (in part because of Simmons’ emphasis on wanting to be identified as the point guard). Kevin Durant will obviously be the elite scoring weapon who gets loose and drops over 30 per night in the playoffs. Those will be the players who have the ball in their hands. Instead of being counted on to even attempt to create his own shot, Simmons is in a perfect position now to do everything he does well while not being counted on to do the thing he does poorly.

The version of Simmons who buys into being the best role player in the NBA covers a lot of holes for the Nets. The Nets are the sixth-worst defensive rebounding team in the league; Simmons is one of the more aggressive defensive rebounders on the perimeter. The Nets generate fewer 3-point attempts per game than all but five teams in the league; Simmons has consistently generated as many 3-point looks for his teammates as any player in the league both in transition and in the half court as a kickout passer. The Nets could use another perimeter defender to help make up for some of their lack of size and footspeed out there in Irving, Patty Mills and Joe Harris when he returns from injury. Simmons’ game fits like a glove if he’s willing to play off the ball and buy into his role with what he does best.

The Green comparison is the goal here. Green is essentially a one-of-one in NBA history; a Defensive Player of the Year candidate who can play center, switch one through five at a high level and also act as an offensive initiator next to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson (and in the past, Durant). He’s one of the few players in NBA history who you can say is genuinely unique. It’s hard to take after a player like that, but Simmons is basically the only other guy in the league who could even attempt to make this role work for him.
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Post#19 » by Claud » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:12 pm

It will take a lot of hard work and dedication from Simmons to make this work.

I hope he comes hungry ready to prove the world wrong.

We don't need him to score, just play to your strengths and continue to evolve as a player/person.
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Post#20 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:25 pm

Netaman wrote:Sam Vecenie's article recapping the trade and analyzing the fit is the best one i've read so far (the athletic $).

https://theathletic.com/3123485/2022/02/11/vecenie-can-ben-simmons-unlock-his-inner-draymond-green-how-will-james-harden-fit-next-to-joel-embiid/

here's a good excerpt:

In the case of Simmons in Brooklyn, it’s so much more theoretical. To be successful, Simmons will need to adjust his playing style from that of a sort-of point guard to more of a Draymond Green-style big. With Kyrie Irving, you have the point guard the 76ers lacked all of the years Simmons was there (in part because of Simmons’ emphasis on wanting to be identified as the point guard). Kevin Durant will obviously be the elite scoring weapon who gets loose and drops over 30 per night in the playoffs. Those will be the players who have the ball in their hands. Instead of being counted on to even attempt to create his own shot, Simmons is in a perfect position now to do everything he does well while not being counted on to do the thing he does poorly.

The version of Simmons who buys into being the best role player in the NBA covers a lot of holes for the Nets. The Nets are the sixth-worst defensive rebounding team in the league; Simmons is one of the more aggressive defensive rebounders on the perimeter. The Nets generate fewer 3-point attempts per game than all but five teams in the league; Simmons has consistently generated as many 3-point looks for his teammates as any player in the league both in transition and in the half court as a kickout passer. The Nets could use another perimeter defender to help make up for some of their lack of size and footspeed out there in Irving, Patty Mills and Joe Harris when he returns from injury. Simmons’ game fits like a glove if he’s willing to play off the ball and buy into his role with what he does best.

The Green comparison is the goal here. Green is essentially a one-of-one in NBA history; a Defensive Player of the Year candidate who can play center, switch one through five at a high level and also act as an offensive initiator next to Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson (and in the past, Durant). He’s one of the few players in NBA history who you can say is genuinely unique. It’s hard to take after a player like that, but Simmons is basically the only other guy in the league who could even attempt to make this role work for him.



This is exactly what we need Ben to do. Elite level dirty work. Just do what HE'S good at.

The only area we need him to improve is at the FT line. That's all. We're not asking him to space the floor. Just go out here and ball out.
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