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Farewell Domantas Sabonis

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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#21 » by Topofthekey » Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:58 pm

Sabonis is in good hands

There's an apology thread in Kings Reddit with this picture:

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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#22 » by Pacers Forever » Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:53 pm

I’m all in on the trade returns we received. Yes I think we should have gotten a 2nd instead of giving up a second but that’s minor nitpicking on my part. Where I’m disappointed is that Turner is still here and one of 2 things must happen.

He steps his game up to improve his passing, rebounding, cut down on his three point attempts leaving that to the better shooters plus put back our missed shots for easy buckets as Sabonis did.

Or Carlisle’s offense de-emphasizes the importance for Turner to be as good as the all star Sabonis was instead emphasizing Halliburton, Duarte, possibly Warren, Hield, and others stepping up.

I’m sorry I just can’t see Turner making the necessary improvements I stated above to replace Domas’ positives.

So I’m hopeful that all we need Turner for is rim protection. Only other scenario is that they trade him next year and get a great piece in return.
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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#23 » by countryboy667 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:23 am

I see three possible outcomes for this trade for the Pacers, none of them good;

1. Haliburton will be very good, but not a true needle-mover. More years on the treadmill.

2. Haliburton and the young'uns will finish the season strong, improving our record enough to screw us out of a really good lottery pick.

3. Haliburton, like others (Paul George, anyone?) will be needle-mover good, and then will decide he wants greener pastures and the bright lights and will leave us ASAP. Then just more "tweaking" and treadmill years in the future..

Maybe this team was going nowhere, but Sabonis was quality and not a damned prima donna like so many others and was fun to watch. We will, IMO, find in Turner we kept the wrong big, and even if the rest of the young players on the team blossom, it won't result in anything other than more 1st and 2nd round exits.

About our health--injuries are part of the game, but we seem to get an inordinate number of them. Maybe we need to take a long, hard look at our training staff and the techniques they are using.
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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#24 » by Tom White » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:30 am

countryboy667 wrote:I see three possible outcomes for this trade for the Pacers, none of them good;

1. Haliburton will be very good, but not a true needle-mover. More years on the treadmill.

2. Haliburton and the young'uns will finish the season strong, improving our record enough to screw us out of a really good lottery pick.

3. Haliburton, like others (Paul George, anyone?) will be needle-mover good, and then will decide he wants greener pastures and the bright lights and will leave us ASAP. Then just more "tweaking" and treadmill years in the future..


Did you ever read Winnie The Pooh when you were a kid? Because you are starting to remind me of Eeyore. You know, the one who could find a grey cloud behind every silver lining?

Or maybe Larry Brown, who after winning a championship and asked "What are you going to do now? Are you going to Disney World? reportedly replied: I don't know, the lines are so long.
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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#25 » by Pacers Forever » Fri Feb 11, 2022 2:50 am

countryboy667 wrote:I see three possible outcomes for this trade for the Pacers, none of them good;

1. Haliburton will be very good, but not a true needle-mover. More years on the treadmill.

2. Haliburton and the young'uns will finish the season strong, improving our record enough to screw us out of a really good lottery pick.

3. Haliburton, like others (Paul George, anyone?) will be needle-mover good, and then will decide he wants greener pastures and the bright lights and will leave us ASAP. Then just more "tweaking" and treadmill years in the future..

Maybe this team was going nowhere, but Sabonis was quality and not a damned prima donna like so many others and was fun to watch. We will, IMO, find in Turner we kept the wrong big, and even if the rest of the young players on the team blossom, it won't result in anything other than more 1st and 2nd round exits.

About our health--injuries are part of the game, but we seem to get an inordinate number of them. Maybe we need to take a long, hard look at our training staff and the techniques they are using.


I’m a Sabonis supporter and not Turner.

However, we don’t know if he wanted out which could have somewhat forced this decision. We don’t know if Carlisle didn’t like the offense run through Sabonis and told Chad and KP he prefers Turner.

Even though I lost my favorite Pacer I differ from your opinion in that I think the Pacer’s future is going to be as good as a small market team can expect in a league geared towards big spending big market teams.

Your comment on Halliburton leaving before he’s even played a game here is whacked. He might like it here. For that matter any young NBA player turning into a star has the ability to bolt anywhere. It’s just part of the league.
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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#26 » by Tom White » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:33 am

Pacers Forever wrote:Your comment on Halliburton leaving before he’s even played a game here is whacked. He might like it here. For that matter any young NBA player turning into a star has the ability to bolt anywhere. It’s just part of the league.


Haliburton has said he chose his uniform number 0 because he was a fan of a former Pacers - CJ Miles.
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Re: Farewell Domantas Sabonis 

Post#27 » by 8305 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:49 pm

This trade reminds me of the Derick McKey for Detlef Schremph deal. I remember thinking Noooooo when I read the headline. But, grew to appreciate McKey. We needed a lock down wing defender worse than another scorer. I think that's the case here, two very good young players exchanged that will likely fill bigger and different holes than their respective departures created.

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