Official Fire Nash thread - Part II

[MrDollarBills]

Nash is a huge problem but I think the problems are bigger than him.

The organization lost its way. The Nash hiring is a perfect example. Instead of going for the best coach possible - we went for someone who we hoped Kyrie and KD would respect. We went for someone that could manage egos. We have so much talent that it damn near worked. The problem is - we saw this with Kenny - it doesn't matter if you're fully healthy or not - losses take an emotional toll on the team. We can't expect the big 3 to play 82 games. So that means you actually need a good coach.

We also seemingly just abandoned our analytics and performance team stuff. Remember when our team was incredibly careful on back to backs? How many minute restrictions were put in place? Now we play the stars until they drop. Makes no sense. We were careful when we had no playoffs to look forward to. Now we have a bigger goal and KD can't play less than 36 MPG? Harden is playing 40 minutes on road back to backs. Nash is part of that but that's all organization stuff.

Spot on.

Sean Marks owns all of this. Hiring Nash was a disastrous blunder. But everything that made the Nets work leading up to the signing of KD and Kyrie has been thrown out the window.

Durant being so beholden to Kyrie is also a serious problem that no one wants to talk about. I'm pretty sure Joe Tsai wants to throw Kyrie out the door head first but KD is the one stopping that.

Friendship and business do not mix. For a guy as smart as Durant is, who is making millions off the court with his investments, you would think he'd understand that.

Both Tsais said they support kyrie and have "All the patience"

Every teammate is ok with it, not just KD. this is per KD on his podcast

Same for nash

same for marks

the idea everyone wants him gone but KD is in the way is absurd

A lot of that is lip service. No one is going to trash Kyrie in public and make a bad situation even worse. Joe Tsai isn't stupid.

There's only been one person who has been truthful in telling the media that there are problems going on internally, and that's the guy who is probably about a week away from asking for a trade out of here.

[Stone]

This video is making the rounds all over the place.......

It is about time we layed our cards on the table...... Lets try to resolve whatever the problems are. If your going to tell us "We have talked enough" and then bring no effort.

Why is the Nets organization always so secretive....

Watch on YouTube

[TheNetsFan]

This video is making the rounds all over the place.......

It is about time we layed our cards on the table...... Lets try to resolve whatever the problems are. If your going to tell us "We have talked enough" and then bring no effort.

Why is the Nets organization always so secretive....

Watch on YouTube

People are reading too much into that video. The only think to take from it is the Kyrie's exasperated WTF look at Johnson, because both he and Harden are way out of position & giving up a wide open layup & put back. Kyrie had the guy in the corner.

[Stone]

Yeah, I agree...Probably someone looking to stir up trouble. But where's there is smoke.......

[MGrand15]

That video is nothing on Kyrie's end. It does showcase Harden's awful effort though. Everyone's playing defense on the play except for Harden. You're not stopping anyone that way. Lots of DeAndre Jordan vibes there.

[Pablo Escobar]

Nash is a huge problem but I think the problems are bigger than him.

The organization lost its way. The Nash hiring is a perfect example. Instead of going for the best coach possible - we went for someone who we hoped Kyrie and KD would respect. We went for someone that could manage egos. We have so much talent that it damn near worked. The problem is - we saw this with Kenny - it doesn't matter if you're fully healthy or not - losses take an emotional toll on the team. We can't expect the big 3 to play 82 games. So that means you actually need a good coach.

We also seemingly just abandoned our analytics and performance team stuff. Remember when our team was incredibly careful on back to backs? How many minute restrictions were put in place? Now we play the stars until they drop. Makes no sense. We were careful when we had no playoffs to look forward to. Now we have a bigger goal and KD can't play less than 36 MPG? Harden is playing 40 minutes on road back to backs. Nash is part of that but that's all organization stuff.

Spot on.

Sean Marks owns all of this. Hiring Nash was a disastrous blunder. But everything that made the Nets work leading up to the signing of KD and Kyrie has been thrown out the window.

Durant being so beholden to Kyrie is also a serious problem that no one wants to talk about. I'm pretty sure Joe Tsai wants to throw Kyrie out the door head first but KD is the one stopping that.

Friendship and business do not mix. For a guy as smart as Durant is, who is making millions off the court with his investments, you would think he'd understand that.

Yup, the front office has basically bent over backwards when it came to kd and kyrie. Which is most likely why they chose to join Brooklyn. You get to boss around the organization and have a coach who will let you do whatever you want. Kd is soft and kyrie runs that friendship so the chances of kyrie being criticized or traded is basically 0. The owner paid billions to buy the team so it's time to put his foot down and if kd doesn't like it he can go f himself.

[NetsJets]

Nash was hired to manage egos and he can’t even do that.

[Prokorov]

If Nash didnt get fired after this wizards game he never will be. someone needs to hold marks accountable. Any good marks had done pulling this team out of the dumpster he has undone hiring nash over several more qualified, minority/female candidates.

Marks deserved to be fired and nash with him. And honestly if KD stands in the way i still fire them and if KD is upset then KD is upset. because KD or not we will NEVER win a title with nash as coach

[Shark]

If Nash didnt get fired after this wizards game he never will be. someone needs to hold marks accountable. Any good marks had done pulling this team out of the dumpster he has undone hiring nash over several more qualified, minority/female candidates.

Marks deserved to be fired and nash with him. And honestly if KD stands in the way i still fire them and if KD is upset then KD is upset. because KD or not we will NEVER win a title with nash as coach

Nash should have been fired after coming back from the long road trip on 8 straight losses. I feel like with the trade his job has been solidified for the rest of the season, which is ridiculous. Even when we were healthy we were having trouble against other playoff teams. I'm just resigned to the fact that Nash is here to stay.

[Jay555]

If Nash didnt get fired after this wizards game he never will be. someone needs to hold marks accountable. Any good marks had done pulling this team out of the dumpster he has undone hiring nash over several more qualified, minority/female candidates.

Marks deserved to be fired and nash with him. And honestly if KD stands in the way i still fire them and if KD is upset then KD is upset. because KD or not we will NEVER win a title with nash as coach

Nash should have been fired after coming back from the long road trip on 8 straight losses. I feel like with the trade his job has been solidified for the rest of the season, which is ridiculous. Even when we were healthy we were having trouble against other playoff teams. I'm just resigned to the fact that Nash is here to stay.

Yep. Strangely his job is more secure than ever.

[bubonicphoniks]

Are you guys trading Harden?

"No"


.....this guy has no pulse on the team. Its so bad.

[_Und3r][D4wg_]

The question is why isn't #FireNash a talking point that's been picked up by more talking heads & sports analysts/writers out there? How is Nash able to avoid direct media scrutiny regarding his job security & accountability for this horrible losing streak?

Even at The 'Clays, I'm surprised that paying fans aren't letting him hear it in chants or see it in placards, in the midst of the team's longest losing streak, at a time when the Nets -- despite all the drama & injuries -- should firmly be competing for top seed in the East.

[Minnamaker]

It is honestly amazing that there are no talks about Nash's job in the media whatsoever. As bad as the offense system was under D'Antoni, it wasn't an issue last year until stars went down in the Milwaukee series. But this year the flaws are evident. And I don't care about injuries and supporting cast. We have enough talent to be decent every night with the right system. There is no system, though. And you can see it with your bare eyes, watching the game, that the players often don't know were to be and what to do.

I hope that our pace increases with Simmons on the floor and we get some easy buckets by getting out in transition. If not, we just lost Harden's pick and roll offense, too. I don't have any trust in Nash, that he adjusts the offense. There will probably be just more handoffs and isolation.
And I don't even talk about defense...

I can't remember a title contender, let alone a "title or bust" team that went on a 10 game losing streak, almost dropping out of the playoffs (at least if there wasn't the play in) and the coach's job is as secure as Nash's.

[bullsaficianado]

They won't fire Nash till they see what he can do with a healthy roster. In last playoffs Irving got hurt and Nets almost beat Bucks. This season Irving has been out most of the season due to covid shot reluctance but is now playing in road games. KD got hurt and will be back soon. Harden wanted out and Nets got new players. Now they have to implement the new players.To be fair to Nash they don't have a healthy team out there and this season so far is on the players. You fire the coach when you see what he can do with a full healthy roster which hasn't been the case with Nash yet so it wouldn't be fair to fire him. If he has a fully healthy team and fails to win a championship or even come close like ECF with the roster the Nets have you fire him. Anything short of ECF or NBA finals he may be fired after this season if Nets make playoffs and are healthy.

These kind of struggles though the coach and players go through and dealing with adversity only makes them stronger. I like Nash as a head coach and I hope the Nets finish this season off strong.

[CalamityX12]

Nash is the clear blemish on Marks' record here.... How he or KD can defend Nash is nearing Kyrie level of WTF.....

wish our beat reporters or anyone just flat out ask them, "do you think Steve Nash should continue to coach this team?" or "what has Steve done to make this team into a competitor?"

go ahead, pull a rabbit of yo asses and explain.

[Prokorov]

They won't fire Nash till they see what he can do with a healthy roster. In last playoffs Irving got hurt and Nets almost beat Bucks. This season Irving has been out most of the season due to covid shot reluctance but is now playing in road games. KD got hurt and will be back soon. Harden wanted out and Nets got new players. Now they have to implement the new players.To be fair to Nash they don't have a healthy team out there and this season so far is on the players. You fire the coach when you see what he can do with a full healthy roster which hasn't been the case with Nash yet so it wouldn't be fair to fire him. If he has a fully healthy team and fails to win a championship or even come close like ECF with the roster the Nets have you fire him. Anything short of ECF or NBA finals he may be fired after this season if Nets make playoffs and are healthy.

These kind of struggles though the coach and players go through and dealing with adversity only makes them stronger. I like Nash as a head coach and I hope the Nets finish this season off strong.

What exactly do you like about nash? his misuse/non use of timeouts? his rotations that go the opposite of what he says the issues are (i.e. complains about spacing then starts an undrafted rookie shooting 18% from three), his lack of offensive or defensive system? his inability to make adjustments? his lack of game planning? his unwillingness to attack an opponents weakness? his propensity to throw players under the bus?

His is just a cardboard cutout. he does nothing. he is awful.

And do not talk to me about healthy... we have CONSISTENTLY lost to AWFUL teams missing MULTIPLE starters.

We lost to the wiz last night who had 4 starters our and we had kyre
We lost to the kings missing fox and 2 starters and we had Kyrie/Harden
We lost to the blazers without Dame/CJ/Powell/Nance and we had KD/Kyrie
We lost to the clips without PG, Kawhi, morris, Batum and we had KD/Harden

this is all year. we have been healthier then most teams with 2 stars playing in 90% of our games. and fine, we lose to good teams... but we are losing to TRASH TANKING TEAMS MISSING THEIR 3-4 TOP PLAYERS!

stop the madness. no matter who is in our out nash is the common thread.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Nash is the clear blemish on Marks' record here.... How he or KD can defend Nash is nearing Kyrie level of WTF.....

wish our beat reporters or anyone just flat out ask them, "do you think Steve Nash should continue to coach this team?" or "what has Steve done to make this team into a competitor?"

go ahead, pull a rabbit of yo asses and explain.

The fans need to start a movement to Fire Nash.

The media has no interest in even bringing up his name. All the blame went to Harden and Kyrie.

None of the biggest problem of them all.

[MrDollarBills]

It amazes me how the beat reporters have not once questioned the job that Nash is doing during this losing streak.

[Hello Brooklyn]

It amazes me how the beat reporters have not once questioned the job that Nash is doing during this losing streak.

There has been 100x more discussion about Frank Vogel.

A Championship level coach who has already proven his worth. Than freaking Nash. A guy who knows nothing!

[CalamityX12]

we're 6-16 in 2022.... like... HOLY **** LOL

while injuries and availability have their place for most excuses at some point enough is enough... every team out there goes through the same ish we go thru(exception of the level of drama that incurs).

Nash has always been outcoached since last season.... he has awful rotations, lineups and plays.... he can't get a god damn win vs a depleted trash(by w/l accounts) ass team in WSH.

Make the best coaching decision of your short career and step down!