We are not going to win a championship this year

[GYK]

I really don't understand the defense of Harden.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

Nash for being a horrible coach

Marks for hiring Nash

Kyrie for not taking the damn shot

And Harden for playing like **** and quitting

It takes ALL of these factors to produce this disaster season.

Harden "came here to win" but he sure hasn't played like it. Putting up his worse stats since his rookie year. Dragged by KD for every game.

Its not the Nets fault that KD got injured. Did KD blame Harden when he had to lead the Nets after Harden got injured? No he didn't. He just dealt with it

Not to mention Harden has basically had Kyrie for nearly every game since KD got injured.

Sorry we expect a former MVP to carry the team on his back while KD returns from injury. Its not asking that much.

I wonder how he responds in Philly once Embiid is out for a month or two. Does he quit on them too?

You feel he’s played bad? It’s 22/10/8 on 57TS% with a 4.1BPM and 3.2VORP. He’s playing fantastic ball. No context needed. He’s been an All NBA level player.
If he’s been playing well and the results aren’t of the game aren’t in favor what else could it be? Maybe the team around him? So despite the poorly constructed team he’s a 22/10/8 player. He’s making that happen. A similar situation last season with total opposite results.
Idk maybe I have a funny way of looking at games. Non shooters. Until Sharpe was inserted, no roll men. Collapsed defenses. As always league leader in traps. Yet 22/10/8.

But I do agree he shouldn’t want to leave. He should be using his position on this team to force the necessary changes. He runs the offense. The other two are amazing(especially KD) but are scorers they don’t really care who/what is around them if they can get an iso(point forward KD had an AMAZING week tho). Harden should be most involved in the role player selection because that’s his job and playstyle. Needs to pull a Lebron(very similar play styles) and demand new role players.

[MrDollarBills]

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but Nash entering CoViD protocol for a few games would be a good test to see how the assistant coaches perform and how the players respond to that.

I'm not particularly impressed with Vaughn, but it should be reasonable to assume that with more experience on the bench, he should have even just a marginally better handle on game management, lineups/match-ups/substitutions/PT management, and rudimentary Xs-&-Os.

This coming homestand without the Big 3 (ergo, without superstar egos) would be an opportune time to try out something like that.

Nash is a terrible coach, but let's not do this. You never know how someone's body will react to covid, and let's not forget that long covid is absolutely real and there are people suffering because the result of infection even months to a year after being infected. Breathing problems. Sense of taste and smell never returning. Persistant brain fog. Actual disability.

I'd rather Nash get fired than he catch covid.

[_Und3r][D4wg_]

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but Nash entering CoViD protocol for a few games would be a good test to see how the assistant coaches perform and how the players respond to that.

I'm not particularly impressed with Vaughn, but it should be reasonable to assume that with more experience on the bench, he should have even just a marginally better handle on game management, lineups/match-ups/substitutions/PT management, and rudimentary Xs-&-Os.

This coming homestand without the Big 3 (ergo, without superstar egos) would be an opportune time to try out something like that.

Nash is a terrible coach, but let's not do this. You never know how someone's body will react to covid, and let's not forget that long covid is absolutely real and there are people suffering because the result of infection even months to a year after being infected. Breathing problems. Sense of taste and smell never returning. Persistant brain fog. Actual disability.

I'd rather Nash get fired than he catch covid.

Oh, absolutely. It was merely a 'what if' speculation on my part... Hence the preface "I wouldn't wish it on anyone."

The wave of CoViD infections in the league that put a few coaches & assistants (all likely vaxxed) in protocols for a few games made me entertain this experiment/trial as a hypothetical exercise. That said, Nash getting fired would certainly be the more ideal (and permanent) move in the right direction.

[NyCeEvO]

Just needed 3&D wings and bigs. Role players aren’t the role players needed for contenders.
I can’t imagine how we are expected to do without James replace him with Ben and still try to think one shooter is gonna magically make team spacing a non issue.
Sean Marks/Steve Nash glory days of SSOL ruined this team. We had a dynasty in hand. They just refused to do what’s necessary. Yay we got rookies playing decent ball on a team they were never expected to play on.
Who needs length, spacing and rebounding. Not Sean Marks.
Sarcasm aside I’m really really sad. The simplest build ever.

The roster construction is overrated. Big 3 and a bunch of one way spare parts and a lack of size and defense in the backcourt and front court. Like you said a bunch of gritty 3nd guys around the stars and it's game over.

I've felt this way ever since we signed KD & Kyrie. Signing them was the hard part. I have no clue why Sean never valued having multiple tall, athletic defenders with developing/developed jump shots. All contending teams have had them for years now. It always boggled my mind seeing Marks choose players of all different profiles except for 3&D wing defenders.

[Claud]

Bucks/Suns/Warriors in another league.

Griz/Heat/Bulls/Phily/ alongside us a tier below.

Things can change, but we sure as **** ain't the favorites anymore I don't know what Vegas is smoking.

[jigga_man]

I really don't understand the defense of Harden.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

Nash for being a horrible coach

Marks for hiring Nash

Kyrie for not taking the damn shot

And Harden for playing like **** and quitting

It takes ALL of these factors to produce this disaster season.

Harden "came here to win" but he sure hasn't played like it. Putting up his worse stats since his rookie year. Dragged by KD for every game.

Its not the Nets fault that KD got injured. Did KD blame Harden when he had to lead the Nets after Harden got injured? No he didn't. He just dealt with it

Not to mention Harden has basically had Kyrie for nearly every game since KD got injured.

Sorry we expect a former MVP to carry the team on his back while KD returns from injury. Its not asking that much.

I wonder how he responds in Philly once Embiid is out for a month or two. Does he quit on them too?

You feel he’s played bad? It’s 22/10/8 on 57TS% with a 4.1BPM and 3.2VORP. He’s playing fantastic ball. No context needed. He’s been an All NBA level player.

His TS% is average, borderline mediocre and currently ranks 63rd overall. There are multiple players who aren't even all starts this season with better BPM. The VORP is pretty good, that's about it.

He has nice per game averages with his worst FG, and 3PT shooting efficiency since his rookie season. As of today he wouldn't make the all nba team.

[MrDollarBills]

I feel like we could turn this thing around, but its going to take some patience until we can get KD and Ben in the line up, a full time Kyrie and hopefully Joe as well.

If we are at 100% full strength come May, I will be optimistic.

[LOUiS-D]

I do love Kai, but I gotta admit how this played out to this point vindicates MDB's pessimism on the situation and Kai's vaccination status being at the center of it.

[LOUiS-D]

Just came across a fun tidbit. Nash is the 2nd highest paid coach in the NBA. What a laugh.

[Jay555]

I do love Kai, but I gotta admit how this played out to this point vindicates MDB's pessimism on the situation and Kai's vaccination status being at the center of it.

100%

[MrDollarBills]

I do love Kai, but I gotta admit how this played out to this point vindicates MDB's pessimism on the situation and Kai's vaccination status being at the center of it.

It is a problem. However, I am glad we moved on from Harden because we addressed several roster needs and dodge a bullet in terms of having to pay him 50 mil a season when he is on the decline.

[GYK]

I really don't understand the defense of Harden.

There is plenty of blame to go around.

Nash for being a horrible coach

Marks for hiring Nash

Kyrie for not taking the damn shot

And Harden for playing like **** and quitting

It takes ALL of these factors to produce this disaster season.

Harden "came here to win" but he sure hasn't played like it. Putting up his worse stats since his rookie year. Dragged by KD for every game.

Its not the Nets fault that KD got injured. Did KD blame Harden when he had to lead the Nets after Harden got injured? No he didn't. He just dealt with it

Not to mention Harden has basically had Kyrie for nearly every game since KD got injured.

Sorry we expect a former MVP to carry the team on his back while KD returns from injury. Its not asking that much.

I wonder how he responds in Philly once Embiid is out for a month or two. Does he quit on them too?

You feel he’s played bad? It’s 22/10/8 on 57TS% with a 4.1BPM and 3.2VORP. He’s playing fantastic ball. No context needed. He’s been an All NBA level player.

His TS% is average, borderline mediocre and currently ranks 63rd overall. There are multiple players who aren't even all starts this season with better BPM. The VORP is pretty good, that's about it.

He has nice per game averages with his worst FG, and 3PT shooting efficiency since his rookie season. As of today he wouldn't make the all nba team.

What does it matter if it’s his worse numbers since whenever. Are you gonna tell me CP3 has been inefficient? Literally 62nd to Harden’s 63rd on a better spaced team. I’m sorry I’m not scapegoating him.
In what world is 57% TS mediocre. That’s a wild statement.
22nd in BPM and 18th in VORP. He’s been amazing this season. The team was bad around him. Cool. Huddle together. That’s what a team should do. But we are objective omniscient viewers. Our eyeballs work. Harden and Durant played great with terrible spacing, small, weak defenders who didn’t rebound.
We Star swapped and then again said f**k fit. Has the narrative not been Joel and Ben don’t work because Ben needs an open paint. Well how the hell is Drummond, Nic, Blake, Sharpe, Johnson and Bruce a better fit for him?
Marks refused to move any of “his guys” for James and now the same for Ben.

I’ll blame James only for not muscling the changes needed on this team. He ran the team his playstyle incorporates others. He’s the one who actually came from a system(the others are scorers known for their portability. wherever with whoever they run their plays at their spots). He should have had the voice to say this is not working and what changes were needed.

[MrDollarBills]

Nash needs to be fired. 10 losses in a row is unacceptable.

[Jay555]

Nash needs to be fired. 10 losses in a row is unacceptable.

Could extend that losing streak easily. 11 is a lock. Might rack up some wins after that.


at MIA
vs SAC
at NY
vs WSH
vs BOS

[Fallout_3]

Last 4 without Kyrie. We're in real trouble now.

[Jay555]

Last 4 without Kyrie. We're in real trouble now.

With Kyrie it's still not enough tho. We could not beat a tanking Wizards ffs.

[Fallout_3]

Last 4 without Kyrie. We're in real trouble now.

With Kyrie it's still not enough tho. We could not beat a tanking Wizards ffs.

Image without him.

[MrDollarBills]

Nash needs to be fired. 10 losses in a row is unacceptable.

Could extend that losing streak easily. 11 is a lock. Might rack up some wins after that.


at MIA
vs SAC
at NY
vs WSH
vs BOS

We are screwed.

[gigantes]

I wouldn't wish it on anyone, but Nash entering CoViD protocol for a few games would be a good test to see how the assistant coaches perform and how the players respond to that.

I'm not particularly impressed with Vaughn, but it should be reasonable to assume that with more experience on the bench, he should have even just a marginally better handle on game management, lineups/match-ups/substitutions/PT management, and rudimentary Xs-&-Os.

This coming homestand without the Big 3 (ergo, without superstar egos) would be an opportune time to try out something like that.

Nash is a terrible coach, but let's not do this. You never know how someone's body will react to covid, and let's not forget that long covid is absolutely real and there are people suffering because the result of infection even months to a year after being infected. Breathing problems. Sense of taste and smell never returning. Persistant brain fog. Actual disability.

I'd rather Nash get fired than he catch covid.

Oh, absolutely. It was merely a 'what if' speculation on my part... Hence the preface "I wouldn't wish it on anyone."

The wave of CoViD infections in the league that put a few coaches & assistants (all likely vaxxed) in protocols for a few games made me entertain this experiment/trial as a hypothetical exercise. That said, Nash getting fired would certainly be the more ideal (and permanent) move in the right direction.

Just wanted to add that it's pretty much impossible to tell exactly how CV19 will affect a person. Outside of the fact that the elderly and overweight tend to be the most ravaged, that is.

Steve being an athlete, not-so-old, and likely boostered-up means he's probably on the far lower end of the spectrum for getting impacted even if he does catch a strain of the disease. Actually, my theory is that most people who haven't been quarantining or taking the utmost caution have probably caught multiple occurrences of the disease by now.

Me, I first caught it Summer of '20, and possibly again with an Omicron variant the past half year, even after I started my vaccine course. I didn't get hit the hardest, but it's definitely aged me & knocked me down an extent. Worst of all is that sleep comes a lot harder than it used to. Two years ago I was an unusually young-looking middle-aged guy, and now I'm firmly in to the middle-aged realm so to speak. Sure wasn't planning on losing my little super-power, that's for sure. :S

Anyway, there must be thousands of CV19 strains by now, and very few of us are likely wearing our N95's and doing strict hand-washing / decontamination routines on a daily basis.

[NetsWorld]

Looking at this trade more in depth reveals what Marks potential plan is for the Summer, especially the narrative that followed. Nets tried to package the picks with Claxton for another rotation player. Question will be come this off season, is Marks really going for "it" again by developing another monster? Here me out here, who is to say Marks does not have his sights set on Lillard? Thomas is looking like a nice asset, as is Edwards, the picks, Claxton and you factor Harris' contact. I think Marks will definitely make a run at Lillard this off season and I believe he had this in mind when making this trade. Those picks, unlike what many say, will be valuable.....And for anyone who says Lillard is this loyal type and Blazers are building around him, I don't believe that and just like the Harden situation, anything can happen. I don't think Lillard will want to play with a quitter like Harden in Philly. Yes I see it, Kyrie/Lillard/KD/Simmons/Drummond. Our own death lineup.