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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1481 » by reanimator » Fri Feb 11, 2022 6:07 am

The-Power wrote:Do you already have favorite destinations for (some of) the top picks?

I recently thought of where Ivey would fit and I think he'd be great next to Cade in Detroit and now Haliburton in Indiana. Both of them are heady playmakers who could benefit from an elite athlete that pressures the rim off the dribble and also cuts well, and they provide reliable perimeter shooting that is still a question mark for Ivey.

I think Chet would look really good in Orlando on both ends of the floor (starting in place of Bamba). Maybe also in Houston paired with Sengün and their young Guards? I guess it depends if you are comfortable with Chet out on the perimeter more and believe Sengün can check the stronger Centers. Assuming Wood is gone, of course.

If you believe in Paolo's shooting, he could fit well in OKC who have their Guard rotation locked up barring a major trade. Spurs could also be a solid option (for both Chet and Banchero, probably). Or maybe Portland who have to fill their hole at PF (one way or the other, whether they retool around Lillard (and Nurkic) or fully rebuild around Simons plus their draft pick(s)).

For Jabari it's similar to Paolo. He'd also fit very in OKC who need shooting and a PF. Portland might need everything if they decide to sell more but as currently constructed, they could really use a PF who can be a secondary scoring option pretty quickly. Detroit also really needs a player like him if they create space by moving Grant (as they should) – they'll just have to pick up a low-usage Center that rebounds and protects the rim to replace Stewart in the starting line-up to play 20 MPG and would immediately look like a much better team.


Ivey - Detroit for the reasons you stated. Pacers too but some moves would need to be made
Jabari - Pacers OKC or Spurs where he can get up shots but really anywhere
Chet - really anywhere
Paolo - Same as Jabari but less malleable and feels like a Kings player lol
AJ- OKC or Detroit. Fits like a glove on the floor with Cade/Giddey.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1482 » by hype_2004 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:17 am

MemphisX wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:To piggy back on my Kessler vs Duren question. Just a curious question, what are everyone's top centers in this class. Im talking about the guys that are strict centers. So no guys like Paolo or Jabari who you might see being 4s with some small ball 5s. Im talking position locked 5s. The Duren's, the Kessler's, the Williams and so on.

1. Mark Williams
2. Kessler
3. Tshiebwe
4. Duren

Its a toss up for me between Williams and Kessler. Similar rebounders, Kessler is the more overall solid defender, while I like Mark's potential in the NBA better because he moves his feet a lot better. Kessler is a little further along with his jumper, but I like Mark's potential there, he is a pretty good FT shooter and has good form and has been hitting his 15-18ft jumper pretty regularly now. It's really close between those two for me.

Then when it comes to Tshiebwe and Duren. I kind of just feel like Tshiebwe is what people hope Duren can become. Just a physical beast that knows how to use his physical advantages. That's Tshiebwe. Again I kind of look at Duren thinking, damn if he can put it together he can be Tshiebwe in a few years. I might as well just take Tshiebwe then.


My order of preference:

1. Kessler
2. Duren
3. Jaylin Williams
4. Mark Williams
5. Kamagate
6. Edey
7. Koloko
8. Robinson
9. Tshiebwe

Tshiebwe and Duren are just completely different level of prospects IMO.

I think Kessler is also a bit better than Mark Williams at almost everything. I like that both are learning to play next to a dynamic PF. Should help their transitions to the NBA. But Kessler is probably one of the prospects that I am higher on than almost everyone.

My sneaky pick is Jaylin Williams. I really want to see what he measures though.


Jeon Duren is 18 yrs old, just turned 18 a couple of months ago. There's reports that he already close to 7 feet and weighs 250 lbs, this kid is not yet done growing physically, just so strong, athletic has a huge wingspan (close to 7'6) and huge hands (over 10 inches). He reminds me of a KG/Dwight Howard hybrid, you can tell by eyetest that he has lot of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed, he's going to learn the game as he matures but those measurables you just can't teach. I see someone picking him in the top 5, maybe as high as no.3, he might just be the next great C in the NBA.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1483 » by jezzerinho » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:19 am

Koloko's offensive game needs a lot of work and he'll be 22 at draft time, but I think he's being hugely undervalued. He's gonna make some GM very happy.
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Post#1484 » by Ruzious » Fri Feb 11, 2022 1:21 pm

Very thankful that Wendell Moore landed well and is still a prospect. Holy bleep.

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1485 » by MotownMadness » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:15 pm

hype_2004 wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:To piggy back on my Kessler vs Duren question. Just a curious question, what are everyone's top centers in this class. Im talking about the guys that are strict centers. So no guys like Paolo or Jabari who you might see being 4s with some small ball 5s. Im talking position locked 5s. The Duren's, the Kessler's, the Williams and so on.

1. Mark Williams
2. Kessler
3. Tshiebwe
4. Duren

Its a toss up for me between Williams and Kessler. Similar rebounders, Kessler is the more overall solid defender, while I like Mark's potential in the NBA better because he moves his feet a lot better. Kessler is a little further along with his jumper, but I like Mark's potential there, he is a pretty good FT shooter and has good form and has been hitting his 15-18ft jumper pretty regularly now. It's really close between those two for me.

Then when it comes to Tshiebwe and Duren. I kind of just feel like Tshiebwe is what people hope Duren can become. Just a physical beast that knows how to use his physical advantages. That's Tshiebwe. Again I kind of look at Duren thinking, damn if he can put it together he can be Tshiebwe in a few years. I might as well just take Tshiebwe then.


My order of preference:

1. Kessler
2. Duren
3. Jaylin Williams
4. Mark Williams
5. Kamagate
6. Edey
7. Koloko
8. Robinson
9. Tshiebwe

Tshiebwe and Duren are just completely different level of prospects IMO.

I think Kessler is also a bit better than Mark Williams at almost everything. I like that both are learning to play next to a dynamic PF. Should help their transitions to the NBA. But Kessler is probably one of the prospects that I am higher on than almost everyone.

My sneaky pick is Jaylin Williams. I really want to see what he measures though.


Jeon Duren is 18 yrs old, just turned 18 a couple of months ago. There's reports that he already close to 7 feet and weighs 250 lbs, this kid is not yet done growing physically, just so strong, athletic has a huge wingspan (close to 7'6) and huge hands (over 10 inches). He reminds me of a KG/Dwight Howard hybrid, you can tell by eyetest that he has lot of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed, he's going to learn the game as he matures but those measurables you just can't teach. I see someone picking him in the top 5, maybe as high as no.3, he might just be the next great C in the NBA.

He sounds like a taller Drummond, hopefully with a better motor though.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1486 » by The Moose » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:15 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
hype_2004 wrote:
MemphisX wrote:
My order of preference:

1. Kessler
2. Duren
3. Jaylin Williams
4. Mark Williams
5. Kamagate
6. Edey
7. Koloko
8. Robinson
9. Tshiebwe

Tshiebwe and Duren are just completely different level of prospects IMO.

I think Kessler is also a bit better than Mark Williams at almost everything. I like that both are learning to play next to a dynamic PF. Should help their transitions to the NBA. But Kessler is probably one of the prospects that I am higher on than almost everyone.

My sneaky pick is Jaylin Williams. I really want to see what he measures though.


Jeon Duren is 18 yrs old, just turned 18 a couple of months ago. There's reports that he already close to 7 feet and weighs 250 lbs, this kid is not yet done growing physically, just so strong, athletic has a huge wingspan (close to 7'6) and huge hands (over 10 inches). He reminds me of a KG/Dwight Howard hybrid, you can tell by eyetest that he has lot of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed, he's going to learn the game as he matures but those measurables you just can't teach. I see someone picking him in the top 5, maybe as high as no.3, he might just be the next great C in the NBA.

He sounds like a taller Drummond, hopefully with a better motor though.


Well he’s listed taller than Drummond , but whenever I watch him he looks far more 6’9 than 6’11, and unfortunately he has similar questionable motor issues to Drummond. To me he’s Drummond 2.0 , maybe with the potential down the road of a mid range jump shot. Not sure I would take him in the lotto, although his range should probably be 10-20
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1487 » by Almost Retired » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:25 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:To piggy back on my Kessler vs Duren question. Just a curious question, what are everyone's top centers in this class. Im talking about the guys that are strict centers. So no guys like Paolo or Jabari who you might see being 4s with some small ball 5s. Im talking position locked 5s. The Duren's, the Kessler's, the Williams and so on.

1. Mark Williams
2. Kessler
3. Tshiebwe
4. Duren

Its a toss up for me between Williams and Kessler. Similar rebounders, Kessler is the more overall solid defender, while I like Mark's potential in the NBA better because he moves his feet a lot better. Kessler is a little further along with his jumper, but I like Mark's potential there, he is a pretty good FT shooter and has good form and has been hitting his 15-18ft jumper pretty regularly now. It's really close between those two for me.

Then when it comes to Tshiebwe and Duren. I kind of just feel like Tshiebwe is what people hope Duren can become. Just a physical beast that knows how to use his physical advantages. That's Tshiebwe. Again I kind of look at Duren thinking, damn if he can put it together he can be Tshiebwe in a few years. I might as well just take Tshiebwe then.


I'd be very happy to see my Bulls be able to draft either Williams or Kessler. Both could provide bench help for Vuc early on, and possibly replace him in a few years.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1488 » by Dadouv47 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 6:01 pm

The-Power wrote:Do you already have favorite destinations for (some of) the top picks?

I recently thought of where Ivey would fit and I think he'd be great next to Cade in Detroit and now Haliburton in Indiana. Both of them are heady playmakers who could benefit from an elite athlete that pressures the rim off the dribble and also cuts well, and they provide reliable perimeter shooting that is still a question mark for Ivey.

I think Chet would look really good in Orlando on both ends of the floor (starting in place of Bamba). Maybe also in Houston paired with Sengün and their young Guards? I guess it depends if you are comfortable with Chet out on the perimeter more and believe Sengün can check the stronger Centers. Assuming Wood is gone, of course.

If you believe in Paolo's shooting, he could fit well in OKC who have their Guard rotation locked up barring a major trade. Spurs could also be a solid option (for both Chet and Banchero, probably). Or maybe Portland who have to fill their hole at PF (one way or the other, whether they retool around Lillard (and Nurkic) or fully rebuild around Simons plus their draft pick(s)).

For Jabari it's similar to Paolo. He'd also fit very in OKC who need shooting and a PF. Portland might need everything if they decide to sell more but as currently constructed, they could really use a PF who can be a secondary scoring option pretty quickly. Detroit also really needs a player like him if they create space by moving Grant (as they should) – they'll just have to pick up a low-usage Center that rebounds and protects the rim to replace Stewart in the starting line-up to play 20 MPG and would immediately look like a much better team.


I certainly didn't watch as many games as most of you in this forum but I feel like Chet is by far the best fit for OKC. He can shoot from 3 and with Giddey passing skill, he will be such an offensive threat.

Kind of have Chet > Jabari > Paolo fit wise for OKC right now.
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Post#1489 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:10 pm

Kessler is such a freak college defender
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1490 » by hype_2004 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:19 pm

The Moose wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
hype_2004 wrote:
Jeon Duren is 18 yrs old, just turned 18 a couple of months ago. There's reports that he already close to 7 feet and weighs 250 lbs, this kid is not yet done growing physically, just so strong, athletic has a huge wingspan (close to 7'6) and huge hands (over 10 inches). He reminds me of a KG/Dwight Howard hybrid, you can tell by eyetest that he has lot of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed, he's going to learn the game as he matures but those measurables you just can't teach. I see someone picking him in the top 5, maybe as high as no.3, he might just be the next great C in the NBA.

He sounds like a taller Drummond, hopefully with a better motor though.


Well he’s listed taller than Drummond , but whenever I watch him he looks far more 6’9 than 6’11, and unfortunately he has similar questionable motor issues to Drummond. To me he’s Drummond 2.0 , maybe with the potential down the road of a mid range jump shot. Not sure I would take him in the lotto, although his range should probably be 10-20


Can he potentially fall into the 2nd round? Man would love for my Raps to draft him. Unlike Drummond he has huge hands and a nastiness about him. He has all the tools to be the next great dominant C, being 18 yrs old this kid is still scratching the surface of his abilities.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1491 » by Ell Curry » Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:47 am

Dadouv47 wrote:
I certainly didn't watch as many games as most of you in this forum but I feel like Chet is by far the best fit for OKC. He can shoot from 3 and with Giddey passing skill, he will be such an offensive threat.

Kind of have Chet > Jabari > Paolo fit wise for OKC right now.


I think Chet has more upside, but Jabari might fit OKC really well with his superior shooting if you have Dort as part of your core, since SGA, Dort and Giddey might just be average shooters but good at driving and passing (not so much Dort) and Jabari will give them space to operate. Though Chet will erase more drives when Giddey gets burnt (but Jabari might be better at rotating and sliding onto guards).
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1492 » by The Moose » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:56 am

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Jabari is on fire tonight

on another note, Ivey's 3pt% has really cratered in conference play, 0-5 in the game tonight so far which would take him to 31% from 3 in conference games
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1493 » by zimpy27 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:24 am

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on another note, Ivey's 3pt% has really cratered in conference play, 0-5 in the game tonight so far which would take him to 31% from 3 in conference games


He's shooting 33% from 3 in his last 10 games
38% from 3 for season now.
People were jumping up and down too early on his 3% considering he was a bad shooter last season. He's definitely improved though and definite top 10 guy still. Some may still have him at 1 on their boards
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Post#1494 » by The Moose » Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:14 pm

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Chet seems to be gaining a lot of steam as the #1 pick and I can't say I disagree right now. He would have Sharpe at 5 he says, assuming he enters

1. Chet
2. Jabari
3. Ivey
4. Paolo
5. AJ Griffin
6. Murray
7. Davis
8. Duren
9. Mathurin
10. Tyty
11. Daniels
12. Agbaji
13. Kendall Brown
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1495 » by Hal14 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:25 pm

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Chet seems to be gaining a lot of steam as the #1 pick and I can't say I disagree right now. He would have Sharpe at 5 he says, assuming he enters

1. Chet
2. Jabari
3. Ivey
4. Paolo
5. AJ Griffin
6. Murray
7. Davis
8. Duren
9. Mathurin
10. Tyty
11. Daniels
12. Agbaji
13. Kendall Brown
14. Eason

For the life of me, I can't understand why Daniels would go that high. Also, no idea why Murray would be that much higher than Eason..
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1496 » by The Moose » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:27 pm

Hal14 wrote:
The Moose wrote:
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Chet seems to be gaining a lot of steam as the #1 pick and I can't say I disagree right now. He would have Sharpe at 5 he says, assuming he enters

1. Chet
2. Jabari
3. Ivey
4. Paolo
5. AJ Griffin
6. Murray
7. Davis
8. Duren
9. Mathurin
10. Tyty
11. Daniels
12. Agbaji
13. Kendall Brown
14. Eason

For the life of me, I can't understand why Daniels would go that high. Also, no idea why Murray would be that much higher than Eason..


he does mention that after 4, the draft is all over the place
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1497 » by The-Power » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:34 pm

zimpy27 wrote:People were jumping up and down too early on his 3% considering he was a bad shooter last season.

Did anybody actually buy Ivey as a 40% 3pt shooter on fairly high volume? I can't imagine anyone actually did.
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Post#1498 » by zimpy27 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 10:52 pm

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zimpy27 wrote:People were jumping up and down too early on his 3% considering he was a bad shooter last season.

Did anybody actually buy Ivey as a 40% 3pt shooter on fairly high volume? I can't imagine anyone actually did.


I don't know if they actually bought it but it felt like people were selling it
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft 

Post#1499 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:51 am

Watching Keegan Murray against Michigan. I don't think he's much of a defender inside, but his first step is good.

I don't see him going over Davis unless it's for a team that desperately needs a scoring 4. Davis just seems much more likely to become an all-star.
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Post#1500 » by BostonCouchGM » Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:56 am

The-Power wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:People were jumping up and down too early on his 3% considering he was a bad shooter last season.

Did anybody actually buy Ivey as a 40% 3pt shooter on fairly high volume? I can't imagine anyone actually did.


love these posts on the heels of two of his worst shooting games which brought his % down to a lowly 38%. If he simply has one great shooting night his next game should someone say..... "people were doubting his 3% considering he was 40% until two games ago? Did anyone actually buy Ivey as a sub 40% shooter on fairly high volume? I can't imagine anyone actually did. Hur dur"

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