OKC Thunder Trades and Transaction Thread

[Dadouv47]

If we don’t get a star in the draft this year, we either trade shai and extend the bottoming out process or become a treadmill team.

Poku gonna be a star next season.

Seriously speaking, trading Shai before the 2023 draft is the most likely scenario unfortunately (except if he plays at an elite level next season so we can think about moving picks to build around him).

No need to trade Shai. They could be this years Cav’s if the lottery balls fall the right way.

Gonna take 2 years to play like the Cavs if everything goes right. doubt we get such a good rookie as Mobley even with #1. Also need Shai to play better and some other guys to improve.

But yeah no time to panic yet...still a lot of room to improve.

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[Mr Thunder Nick]

Why didn't we keep Diakite for the rest of the season ? He showed very good performances.

[Devilanche]

Poku gonna be a star next season.

Seriously speaking, trading Shai before the 2023 draft is the most likely scenario unfortunately (except if he plays at an elite level next season so we can think about moving picks to build around him).

No need to trade Shai. They could be this years Cav’s if the lottery balls fall the right way.

Gonna take 2 years to play like the Cavs if everything goes right. doubt we get such a good rookie as Mobley even with #1. Also need Shai to play better and some other guys to improve.

But yeah no time to panic yet...still a lot of room to improve.

We need people to start making their 3s too . Either by improving or by getting new people .

[Devilanche]

Why didn't we keep Diakite for the rest of the season ? He showed very good performances.

Think we run out of 10 days we can offer him. So maybe two way ? Once wiggins get converted .

[ThunderBolt]

No need to trade Shai. They could be this years Cav’s if the lottery balls fall the right way.

Gonna take 2 years to play like the Cavs if everything goes right. doubt we get such a good rookie as Mobley even with #1. Also need Shai to play better and some other guys to improve.

But yeah no time to panic yet...still a lot of room to improve.

We need people to start making their 3s too . Either by improving or by getting new people .

I’m so weary of shooters that can’t shoot. Jerome is below 30%. Shia has regressed. Dort is below average and fires. 7.5 attempts per game.

[Dadouv47]

Gonna take 2 years to play like the Cavs if everything goes right. doubt we get such a good rookie as Mobley even with #1. Also need Shai to play better and some other guys to improve.

But yeah no time to panic yet...still a lot of room to improve.

We need people to start making their 3s too . Either by improving or by getting new people .

I’m so weary of shooters that can’t shoot. Jerome is below 30%. Shia has regressed. Dort is below average and fires. 7.5 attempts per game.

Yeah gotta move Dort at one point if we are locked with Shai and Giddey;

Mann is the only one I trust to shoot well in 2-3 seasons (even if he needs to improve a lot).

Chet is such a good fit in this team because of his 3pt%

[Dadouv47]

I don't think Presti will repeat the mistake of drafting only athletic wings that can't shoot. Speaking of athleticism, that's the other issue in our roster. Giddey, Mann, Poku (and Shai to a lesser extent) gonna need to improve a lot.

[Old Man Game]

We need people to start making their 3s too . Either by improving or by getting new people .

I’m so weary of shooters that can’t shoot. Jerome is below 30%. Shia has regressed. Dort is below average and fires. 7.5 attempts per game.

Yeah gotta move Dort at one point if we are locked with Shai and Giddey;

Mann is the only one I trust to shoot well in 2-3 seasons (even if he needs to improve a lot).

Chet is such a good fit in this team because of his 3pt%

I personally am not sure we should consider ourselves locked into SGA. If he's your best player what's the team's ceiling? Realistically? I'm not saying he's not really good but how good we talking here? I have some doubts he can be the best player on a high level contending team. I'm not sure he's the second best player on one of those elite teams.

[Devilanche]

I’m so weary of shooters that can’t shoot. Jerome is below 30%. Shia has regressed. Dort is below average and fires. 7.5 attempts per game.

Yeah gotta move Dort at one point if we are locked with Shai and Giddey;

Mann is the only one I trust to shoot well in 2-3 seasons (even if he needs to improve a lot).

Chet is such a good fit in this team because of his 3pt%

I personally am not sure we should consider ourselves locked into SGA. If he's your best player what's the team's ceiling? Realistically? I'm not saying he's not really good but how good we talking here? I have some doubts he can be the best player on a high level contending team. I'm not sure he's the second best player on one of those elite teams.

I think the issue is that if he’s your sole good piece you aren’t picking in the first 5 pick anymore . So at that point you either trade for others to surround him with help or you trade him .

[Dadouv47]

I’m so weary of shooters that can’t shoot. Jerome is below 30%. Shia has regressed. Dort is below average and fires. 7.5 attempts per game.

Yeah gotta move Dort at one point if we are locked with Shai and Giddey;

Mann is the only one I trust to shoot well in 2-3 seasons (even if he needs to improve a lot).

Chet is such a good fit in this team because of his 3pt%

I personally am not sure we should consider ourselves locked into SGA. If he's your best player what's the team's ceiling? Realistically? I'm not saying he's not really good but how good we talking here? I have some doubts he can be the best player on a high level contending team. I'm not sure he's the second best player on one of those elite teams.

I'm not against trading Shai at one point depending on circunstances and what he wants but this season showed that we can still "tank" with him (maybe not bottom 3 in the league but bottom 5-6). We just need some luck in the lottery and draft well to get our future franchise player.

I still think he's good enough to be a second option on a contender but time will tell (just a bit worried that lack of athleticism could prevent him from being such the great player he should be)

[ThunderBolt]

Yeah gotta move Dort at one point if we are locked with Shai and Giddey;

Mann is the only one I trust to shoot well in 2-3 seasons (even if he needs to improve a lot).

Chet is such a good fit in this team because of his 3pt%

I personally am not sure we should consider ourselves locked into SGA. If he's your best player what's the team's ceiling? Realistically? I'm not saying he's not really good but how good we talking here? I have some doubts he can be the best player on a high level contending team. I'm not sure he's the second best player on one of those elite teams.

I think the issue is that if he’s your sole good piece you aren’t picking in the first 5 pick anymore . So at that point you either trade for others to surround him with help or you trade him .

I agree. That's why this years draft is so key, imo. If we get a stud, then keeping Shai makes sense. If we fall outside the top 4-6 again, and get a player that isn't elite then at the next trade deadline I think you have to start accepting the possibility that he may be moved.

[Dadouv47]

I personally am not sure we should consider ourselves locked into SGA. If he's your best player what's the team's ceiling? Realistically? I'm not saying he's not really good but how good we talking here? I have some doubts he can be the best player on a high level contending team. I'm not sure he's the second best player on one of those elite teams.

I think the issue is that if he’s your sole good piece you aren’t picking in the first 5 pick anymore . So at that point you either trade for others to surround him with help or you trade him .

I agree. That's why this years draft is so key, imo. If we get a stud, then keeping Shai makes sense. If we fall outside the top 4-6 again, and get a player that isn't elite then at the next trade deadline I think you have to start accepting the possibility that he may be moved.

I wonder what a fair trade for Shai would look right now. I wouldn't trade Shai for the 2022 first pick but no team will trade the 2023 first pick for him (maybe 3rd or 4th pick).

[ThunderBolt]

I think the issue is that if he’s your sole good piece you aren’t picking in the first 5 pick anymore . So at that point you either trade for others to surround him with help or you trade him .

I agree. That's why this years draft is so key, imo. If we get a stud, then keeping Shai makes sense. If we fall outside the top 4-6 again, and get a player that isn't elite then at the next trade deadline I think you have to start accepting the possibility that he may be moved.

I wonder what a fair trade for Shai would look right now. I wouldn't trade Shai for the 2022 first pick but no team will trade the 2023 first pick for him (maybe 3rd or 4th pick).

There isn't any way to know until we know which teams have the picks. Not every team will have the same goals. Teams like Portland, Sacramento and Houston may want to accelerate their rebuilds due to Dame's timeline or meddling ownership that is impatient. Other teams will prefer the draft.

[Old Man Game]

I can't really think of a comp for SGA that gives me hope for him becoming that sort of top 5 guy/MVP candidate that we need. Elite at getting to the rim, not really elite at any other aspect of the game right? What's the upside comp? Slender James Harden?

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[Devilanche]

I think the issue is that if he’s your sole good piece you aren’t picking in the first 5 pick anymore . So at that point you either trade for others to surround him with help or you trade him .

I agree. That's why this years draft is so key, imo. If we get a stud, then keeping Shai makes sense. If we fall outside the top 4-6 again, and get a player that isn't elite then at the next trade deadline I think you have to start accepting the possibility that he may be moved.

I wonder what a fair trade for Shai would look right now. I wouldn't trade Shai for the 2022 first pick but no team will trade the 2023 first pick for him (maybe 3rd or 4th pick).

I would trade shai for 2022 first pick and others .

Then truly bottom out for 2023 naturally with just giddey and the rookie scale contracts .

And yes at that point I move dort as well. Anyone need a contract before 2023 I will move.

[Dadouv47]

I agree. That's why this years draft is so key, imo. If we get a stud, then keeping Shai makes sense. If we fall outside the top 4-6 again, and get a player that isn't elite then at the next trade deadline I think you have to start accepting the possibility that he may be moved.

I wonder what a fair trade for Shai would look right now. I wouldn't trade Shai for the 2022 first pick but no team will trade the 2023 first pick for him (maybe 3rd or 4th pick).

I would trade shai for 2022 first pick and others .

Then truly bottom out for 2023 naturally with just giddey and the rookie scale contracts .

And yes at that point I move dort as well. Anyone need a contract before 2023 I will move.

I think 90% of teams would be willing to trade the 2022 first pick for SGA (and I'm not SGA biggest believer). I doubt they would add much value though. Jabari/Chet/Banchero are exciting but still a big gamble to trade Shai for one of them.

Guess it's still better to see what happens during the 2022-2023 season (except if SGA wants a trade).Building through the draft is fun but the luck factor is so big (one more sad face for ThunderBolt )

[Devilanche]

I wonder what a fair trade for Shai would look right now. I wouldn't trade Shai for the 2022 first pick but no team will trade the 2023 first pick for him (maybe 3rd or 4th pick).

I would trade shai for 2022 first pick and others .

Then truly bottom out for 2023 naturally with just giddey and the rookie scale contracts .

And yes at that point I move dort as well. Anyone need a contract before 2023 I will move.

I think 90% of teams would be willing to trade the 2022 first pick for SGA (and I'm not SGA biggest believer). I doubt they would add much value though. Jabari/Chet/Banchero are exciting but still a big gamble to trade Shai for one of them.

Guess it's still better to see what happens during the 2022-2023 season (except if SGA wants a trade).Building through the draft is fun but the luck factor is so big (one more sad face for ThunderBolt )

You are probably right but shai for just 1st seems like a huge risk for us . Shai for 1st and something more sounds tolerable.

[ThunderBolt]

Ir seems foolish to jettison Shai simply because he may not be a number one option. The only circumstance I see it making sense is if he’s growing frustrated at not winning but we’re still winning too much to get top talent. There are about ten other possible scenarios I can foresee that result in keeping Shai.

[Old Man Game]

Ir seems foolish to jettison Shai simply because he may not be a number one option. The only circumstance I see it making sense is if he’s growing frustrated at not winning but we’re still winning too much to get top talent. There are about ten other possible scenarios I can foresee that result in keeping Shai.

Here's how I view it. I'm not advocating trading him necessarily. I view him like everyone else. An asset. An asset that should be considered tradeable under the right set of circumstances to improve our long term outlook. I just don't view him as untouchable and I really get the feeling Presti does view him as untouchable, which concerns me because I think our theoretical ceiling is thereby lower than it otherwise might be. If you start from the position that "SGA will be one our top paid players on this roster ..." then I think you're setting the bar too low, because I don't think a team with SGA as one of its top paid players is on the same level as some of the truly elite teams.

This is of course subject to change. Maybe he takes a leap in an area of the game that is not foreseen. Maybe a complimentary piece is acquired that opens up Shai's game. But right now that's my assessment. He shouldn't be untouchable.