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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1221 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:47 pm

440BB wrote:This Grant business has distracted us from the real story.

Can we start discussing the implications of Griffin, Drummond and Brown being reunited?

How does it compare to the Morris, Jackson and Kennard combo?

It seems the league likes ex-Pistons in threes.

Lol, I never even made that connection.

That is weird.
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Post#1222 » by mattao313 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:48 pm

440BB wrote:This Grant business has distracted us from the real story.

Can we start discussing the implications of Griffin, Drummond and Brown being reunited?

How does it compare to the Morris, Jackson and Kennard combo?

It seems the league likes ex-Pistons in threes.
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Post#1223 » by ComboGuardCity » Fri Feb 11, 2022 3:48 pm

440BB wrote:This Grant business has distracted us from the real story.

Can we start discussing the implications of Griffin, Drummond and Brown being reunited?

How does it compare to the Morris, Jackson and Kennard combo?

It seems the league likes ex-Pistons in threes.

Don’t forget Josh, Lyles, and Louis King
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Post#1224 » by Kalamazoo317 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:48 pm

Does KCP have any former Pistons running mates these days?

Also, side note: starting in the summer Lakers can trade their '29 pick along with their '27 pick. If we can get both unprotected, I'd be tempted to go Grant, Kelly O, Cojo for Westbrook and those two picks. Lebron will be 42 in '27.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1225 » by kpt » Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:57 pm

I wouldn’t touch Westbrook
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Post#1226 » by mattao313 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:01 pm

kpt wrote:I wouldn’t touch Westbrook
Westbrook would be a expiring contract next season I take the deal above 10/10

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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1227 » by Snakebites » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:05 pm

If they wouldn't give up their '27 first rounder to swap Westbrook for Wall (getting out of one year basically) then why would they give up more to unload him in the offseason?
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Post#1228 » by MotownMadness » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:05 pm

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kpt wrote:I wouldn’t touch Westbrook
Westbrook would be a expiring contract next season I take the deal above 10/10

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Man he would completely destroy any type of team development for another year but I would probably do it for two 1st rounders.

Lakers won't though with how much draft capital they've already lost and the uncertainty of where they will be at that far down line.
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Post#1229 » by Piston Pete » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:08 pm

Westbrook seems like a contract Weaver would want to stretch, and that scares me
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1230 » by mattao313 » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:08 pm

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kpt wrote:I wouldn’t touch Westbrook
Westbrook would be a expiring contract next season I take the deal above 10/10

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Man he would completely destroy any type of team development for another year but I would probably do it for two 1st rounders.

Lakers won't though with how much draft capital they've already lost and the uncertainty of where they will be at that far down line.
We could probably just sit him Wall style and/or buy him out.

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Post#1231 » by kpt » Fri Feb 11, 2022 5:31 pm

mattao313 wrote:Also are you guys ok with a 4yr/112mil extension for grant if we keep him?

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Post#1232 » by pistonsbball » Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:39 pm

440BB wrote:This Grant business has distracted us from the real story.

Can we start discussing the implications of Griffin, Drummond and Brown being reunited?

How does it compare to the Morris, Jackson and Kennard combo?

It seems the league likes ex-Pistons in threes.


Crazy that Dre went to Philly to be pals with Embiid and now he faces the prospect of being humiliated by him in the playoffs.

I'm rooting for the Dre redemption story.
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Post#1233 » by Moses ShamMoses » Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:44 pm

Yeah we're not getting two unprotected 1sts from the Lakers for Jerami Grant even if we're taking on Westbrook. We do need to trade him for something though.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1234 » by Kalamazoo317 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:02 pm

Snakebites wrote:If they wouldn't give up their '27 first rounder to swap Westbrook for Wall (getting out of one year basically) then why would they give up more to unload him in the offseason?


Because Wall is on a bad contract too and isn't any better than Westbrook. Grant lights it up when we play the Lakers and we know they offered the '27, Nunn, and THT for him already. I'm specifically talking about trading Grant and whatever else it takes to make the money work there (probably Kelly O).

I think you just buy out Westbrook or flip him at the deadline as an expiring. At worst you let him come off the bench and play with the second unit.

Probably nothing that would ever happen, but it'd be worth it for two lottery tickets, IMO.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1235 » by 440BB » Sat Feb 12, 2022 3:04 pm

pistonsbball wrote:
440BB wrote:This Grant business has distracted us from the real story.

Can we start discussing the implications of Griffin, Drummond and Brown being reunited?

How does it compare to the Morris, Jackson and Kennard combo?

It seems the league likes ex-Pistons in threes.


Crazy that Dre went to Philly to be pals with Embiid and now he faces the prospect of being humiliated by him in the playoffs.

I'm rooting for the Dre redemption story.

I thought being Embiid's backup was the perfect role for him too. He is likely bummed out and his prospects of getting a decent contract as a backup will shrink. Nobody exposes Andre's weaknesses better than Embiid.
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Re: Jerami Grant receiving a lot of trade interest- (Jake Fisher) 

Post#1236 » by Manocad » Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:18 am

mattao313 wrote:
Manocad wrote:
mattao313 wrote:Comes off as they already had their minds made up. Hopefully they didn't turn down a good offer to be "loyal" or some bull.

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Given how quickly the media will try to spin any hint of a possible trade into news, no report of a good offer = no good offer. In fact, there was no report of any offer yesterday meaning there wasn't one.
That isn't true not all deals are leaked to the public. Also it's be less than one day those reports don't come out immediately.

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According to Weaver on the radio this morning no one gave him a decent offer. In fact his exact words were "We weren't going to just give him away for nothing." Sometimes obvious answer is obvious.
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Post#1237 » by whitehops » Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:08 am

Manocad wrote:According to Weaver on the radio this morning no one gave him a decent offer. In fact his exact words were "We weren't going to just give him away for nothing." Sometimes obvious answer is obvious.

i really wanted the team to get rid of grant at the deadline but to be fair they will have much more flexibility trading him in the offseason.

teams will have more cap space so they won't have to include ~$20 million in salary to match, there's sign and trade possibilities, teams will have a better idea how much they want to extend grant, etc.

personally i would've done the trade that the spurs did (for dragic and the raps' 1st) but my guess is weaver was looking for a prospect as well and didn't like any of toronto's (or they didn't offer any of them).
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Post#1238 » by GreekAlex » Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:26 am

whitehops wrote:
Manocad wrote:According to Weaver on the radio this morning no one gave him a decent offer. In fact his exact words were "We weren't going to just give him away for nothing." Sometimes obvious answer is obvious.

i really wanted the team to get rid of grant at the deadline but to be fair they will have much more flexibility trading him in the offseason.

teams will have more cap space so they won't have to include ~$20 million in salary to match, there's sign and trade possibilities, teams will have a better idea how much they want to extend grant, etc.

personally i would've done the trade that the spurs did (for dragic and the raps' 1st) but my guess is weaver was looking for a prospect as well and didn't like any of toronto's (or they didn't offer any of them).


I think our best bet is to get a lottery pick out of Portland if they’re keeping Dame.

If they have their lottery pick plus a lottery pick from New Orleans, I think they have to deal both for veteran “win-now” players.

They’ll be even more limited as to who they can take back because their TPE is a little over $20m so Grants contract would fit perfectly.

And if I recall correctly, Dame had lobbied for Grant to be on team USA with him so their may be something there.
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Post#1239 » by Piston Pete » Wed Feb 16, 2022 1:52 am

If Portland is in rebuild mode, they might want to keep both picks for themselves.

They might be hoping we have an interest in trading Grant for the TPE. Maybe Grant for TPE/2nd?

Would we do that?
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Post#1240 » by GreekAlex » Wed Feb 16, 2022 2:01 am

Piston Pete wrote:If Portland is in rebuild mode, they might want to keep both picks for themselves.

They might be hoping we have an interest in trading Grant for the TPE. Maybe Grant for TPE/2nd?

Would we do that?


If Portland keeps 2 lottery picks, Dame is headed elsewhere.

And no, they wouldn’t accept that offer. I’m not in fantasy land thinking they’re going to get something crazy but they should be able to muster a neutral expiring & 1st in the late teens / early 20’s

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