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[the_process]

Harden gets more money apparently if he opts in and then signs a 4 year extension on top of that.

[FireMorey]

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Ummmm... Any reason to be concerned about this. Why would this be reported that he did sign lol.

No. Morey and Rubin are close with Harden. Just because he didn’t opt in doesn’t mean he won’t. And if not I’m sure they’ll work something out. Morey and Rubin have intel on his intentions I’m sure.

[the_process]

When will The Beard be making his debut?

Please tell me Boston.

[blazehound]

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Well that’s not good. He could conceivably walk after this season?

[Negrodamus]

Wasn't there a dialogue about how Harden is willing to accept less money to improve cap flexibility for the team? Or did I have a fever dream in the height of the trade rumors.

[Negrodamus]

However, as noted by ESPN’s Bobby Marks, Harden could potentially earn somewhere between $70 million to $100 million more in salary if he either stays with the Nets or if he is traded to the Sixers than he would if he were to enter unrestricted free agency.

Based on the collective bargaining agreement, as they are his current team, Brooklyn is able to offer Harden approximately $270 million over the next five seasons.

Here is how that works: This offseason, Harden would opt-in to his massive player option, which is worth around $47 million. The 2018 NBA MVP would then agree to a four-year extension that is worth around $223 million over the next four years.

Overall, that equates to an average annual value of $53.96 million per season playing for the Nets. In such a deal, he could collect as much as $61.41 million in 2026-27. (For what it is worth: Harden will turn 38 years old in 2027.)

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2022/02/nba-trade-deadline-james-harden-brooklyn-nets-salary-cap-contract-extension-free-agency

[DHM]

When will The Beard be making his debut?

Please tell me Boston.

Can’t he play tonight? I’m sure the hammy thing was BS?

[XtremeDunkz]

When will The Beard be making his debut?

Please tell me Boston.

Can’t he play tonight? I’m sure the hammy thing was BS?

Word is he's coming to Philly tomorrow. Not expected to play this weekend.

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[DHM]

When will The Beard be making his debut?

Please tell me Boston.

Can’t he play tonight? I’m sure the hammy thing was BS?

Word is he's coming to Philly tomorrow. Not expected to play this weekend.

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What? WTH? Oh well thanks.

[MrDollarBills]

Something to watch for: This season, Harden has been really slow getting the ball up the court and getting the team into sets. He absolutely killed our pacing. I'm not sure what kind of offense you guys run but that may be an issue if Harden doesn't adapt, because I doubt you guys want your offensive sets to start with 14 secs or less on the clock.

We're the slower team in he league and believe or not, a lot of times our sets start with less tahn 10 seconds in the clock

oh. well, carry on then

[FireMorey]

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Well that’s not good. He could conceivably walk after this season?

Conceivably, but he won’t. He wants to be in Philly and can earn the most money in Philly. And I’m sure Morey and Rubin have inside knowledge of his desires going forward.

[HardenGoat]

Am I the only one that feels like this is the Chris Webber trade all over again. We threw all our assets to get an aging superstar that on paper is a great fit, but we are one ankle (or in this case hamstring) of having the whole window for a ring close. Clearly Haliburton and Hiedl were available with the Kings (now Pacers) and Thad and Smith were available with the Spurs ( now Raptors and Celtics). I think sending out Simmons and parts for those pieces would have made more sense. Maybe even throw in Harris.
Now we strengthened the Net, not just with Simmons, but as importantly with Curry. And we lost the best back-up big man we have had for Embiid ever. And we are out draft picks and potentially could be stuck holding the bag for a super-max deal for Harden in summer of 2023.
This trade basically means we HAVE to win this year or next, when the Nets will be the better team, and the Bucks are still dominant. Tough pill to swallow. After 2023, we probably have to blow it all up again.

So ...let's win right now!

[HardenGoat]

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Ummmm... Any reason to be concerned about this. Why would this be reported that he did sign lol.

No. Morey and Rubin are close with Harden. Just because he didn’t opt in doesn’t mean he won’t. And if not I’m sure they’ll work something out. Morey and Rubin have intel on his intentions I’m sure.

He is more likely going to try to maximize what players he can have the team acquire. Harden wants a ring more than money

[eyeatoma]

https://www.phillyvoice.com/sixers-james-harden-expected-philly-debut-contract-details-opt-in-2022-injury-update/

Details on not opting in.

From a longer-term perspective, there's a more important piece of business to sort out from Thursday. In the aftermath of the Harden deal breaking to the public, it was suggested by other outlets that Harden was opting into the next year of his contract. That was misreported, and Harden did not opt-in prior to yesterday's deal being completed and going official, a source familiar with the situation told PhillyVoice. Harden would have had to opt-in prior to the deal's completion on Thursday, and since he didn't, his next opportunity to opt-in comes at the end of this season.

For anyone feeling panicky, there is no indication that this says anything about Harden's commitment to Philadelphia. By all accounts, Harden wants to be here in Philadelphia with Joel Embiid as his co-star and Daryl Morey running the show, with his desire to be here over Brooklyn not exactly a secret. Both sides are operating under the belief that this is a long-term partnership. And the most lucrative financial path for Harden still revolves around that option — as friend of the website Derek Bodner detailed earlier this week, Harden opting in and signing an extension down the road (traded players must wait at least six months after being traded to sign an extension) is the path to the most money possible, roughly $274 million through 2026-27.

In short, this might end up being a semantic difference when all is said and done, but it's a difference that must be noted until/unless it changes.

Whenever Harden gets here and gets set up in Philadelphia, the most important thing for the time being is accelerating his growth and chemistry with this group, something they don't have a lot of time to do before the playoffs start in mid-April. It has been a bit of a whirlwind so far, and not all of his teammates have even gotten a chance to speak with him yet, and the Sixers are aware that they are likely going to change their day-to-day process in order to absorb a piece as big and critical as Harden in the coming months.

"We're just going to go out there and try to figure it all out. Coach [Rivers] literally just said practices and shootarounds now are going to be more intense, just because we have a limited amount of time to figure it out," Tyrese Maxey said at shootaround on Friday. "I can't wait, it's going to be great, it's a great group of guys and [I] can't wait to get started."

With the arrival of a new star, a new level of scrutiny is here for the Sixers. Soon enough, everyone will be able to focus on the one overarching question that truly matters in the

Basically he can make more money by doing it this summer. Makes sense why he would want to do that. Unless something goes horribly wrong, we should have no problem resigning him. Given the fact he wanted to come here, now, he also want to come to Brooklyn. That being said, Brooklyn didn't have Morey, Rubin, and some of Harden's social connections.

[SixthStreet]

Interesting. So does the team gain any cap flexibility in between the beginning of the offseason and the deadline for him to opt in?

[Bones99]

We threw all our assets

In what way were "all the assets" traded? It was Ben Simmons, two 30 year old roleplayers, a late pick this year, and a protected pick in 2027 that becomes seconds if we're within the top 8. Maxey and Thybulle were seen as our most prized young assets value wise and Marks got neither. Sky is falling esque comment.

We have no more 1st round picks to trade. You cant trade 1st round picks in consecutive years so we cant trade 2022 (Nets choice to keep it or use it), 2023 (which is the choice the Nets will most likely keep), so 2024 cant' be traded, 2025 is already traded, 2026 can't be traded and 2027 is already traded (top 8 protected, if not passed to Nets then 2028 goes to them top 8 protected, if neither gets passed to the Nets they get 2nd round picks in 2029 and 2030). So if Embiid or Harden gets hurt next year and we tumble into the lottery, it doesn't get us anything but a wasted year.

As per non-trade assets, Harden turns out to be bust do to aging or injuries, it will be tough to trade him on a super-max contract unless we tie in Maxey and Matisse. So essentially, three assets become one. I'm hoping there is another step here. Like a sign trade of Harden for Lillard in the offseason. Because this reminds me of that Webber trade that ultimately closed the window on the Iverson era.

[XtremeDunkz]

Interesting. So does the team gain any cap flexibility in between the beginning of the offseason and the deadline for him to opt in?

No. His cap hold is still in place until he officially opts in or out.

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[Negrodamus]

After his scorched earth campaign the last 3-4 years, Harden will fit in well here with our fan base:

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just don't forsake us, Jim

[NBD23]

We threw all our assets

In what way were "all the assets" traded? It was Ben Simmons, two 30 year old roleplayers, a late pick this year, and a protected pick in 2027 that becomes seconds if we're within the top 8. Maxey and Thybulle were seen as our most prized young assets value wise and Marks got neither. Sky is falling esque comment.

We have no more 1st round picks to trade. You cant trade 1st round picks in consecutive years so we cant trade 2022 (Nets choice to keep it or use it), 2023 (which is the choice the Nets will most likely keep), so 2024 cant' be traded, 2025 is already traded, 2026 can't be traded and 2027 is already traded (top 8 protected, if not passed to Nets then 2028 goes to them top 8 protected, if neither gets passed to the Nets they get 2nd round picks in 2029 and 2030). So if Embiid or Harden gets hurt next year and we tumble into the lottery, it doesn't get us anything but a wasted year.

As per non-trade assets, Harden turns out to be bust do to aging or injuries, it will be tough to trade him on a super-max contract unless we tie in Maxey and Matisse. So essentially, three assets become one. I'm hoping there is another step here. Like a sign trade of Harden for Lillard in the offseason. Because this reminds me of that Webber trade that ultimately closed the window on the Iverson era.

In theory the concern could be considered but then you mention Damian Lillard whose game is much more predicated on athleticism at roughly the same age. Harden comes with risks but any player that is legitimately acquirable does. He is much better now and in his prime than Webber at the trade time or his prime. Don't forget Embiid is much better than AI was at that point. Harden is here and his game should age well as it was never based on athleticism even when he was younger.

[Eyeamok]

After being told he was approaching things the wrong way by the "experts" on radio and TV. After fan after fan said he should accept pennies on the dollar for BS. Morey got the man he wanted from the start of all of this. And in the "process" Maxey and Matisse have thrived and Embiid is happy and on pace to be MVP. So now all that is left is to play great basketball. The contract stuff and the business of basketball is in very capable hands.