Why did James Harden want to leave the Nets?

[slick_watts]

we've all worked with a kyrie and wished we had the ability to force a trade like james harden did.

[eyeatoma]

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33267737/inside-tense-negotiations-led-james-harden-ben-simmons-superstar-swap

Good article illustrating the last few days leading up to the trade deadline.

Woj basically lied, and Windy was right.

Edit: Forgot this was an insider article.

Scroll down on reddit and you'll find the full article.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sixers/comments/sq993j/comment/hwk5dzs/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[BeatDaCavs420]

He was promised free philly cheese steaks for life!

[alevirfe]

I think he wanted to be able to take a backseat to KD & Kyrie. handle the ball, grab easy assists and hunt down open 3s on their way to 150 points and not having to play any defense

the reality was because of the injuries & Kyrie's brain he had a huge offensive load and very little support. it probably started to bother him that Kyrie was able to play half the games while the team was struggling and so much was put on his back

[Hello Brooklyn]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Wouldn't you rather play with the guy who is in MVP contention and a decent if limited coach over two guys who play like half the games and a coach with no idea?

He wants to win, not carry the entire load on a team where 2 superstars can't/won't get on the court.

KD was in MVP contention till getting hurt. And pointing to Embiid as the epitome of health is funny. Lets see how he holds up in a few months.

The coach part is true though. Nash is terrible.

Should have pushed for Nash to get fired instead of quitting though.

[pr0wler]

some teams look good on paper initially but in reality they just don't work out.....ex - Nets and Lakers

that's why I'm not fully buying into the Embiid-Harden Sixers...who knows if those 2 will work out chemistry-wise

The Nets had the best offense of all-time last season. If the big 3 could actually all be on the court together on a consistent basis, they'd be just fine. But between Durant being injured, Kyrie only playing 50% of games, and even Harden having some nagging issues, it just wasn't meant to be.

[pr0wler]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

By the time KD came back, they might be like the 9th seed. And even in the playoffs, Kyrie can't even play at home. As fun as it is carrying a G-League roster getting doubled teamed constantly week after week, I can see why he was tired of this nonsense.

[eyeatoma]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

He didn't quit on the Rockets, they quit on him.

Kyrie gets vaxxed, this is not an issue. Nuff said.

[Lamak]

James Harden has found an issue with every star player he has played with since he left OKC

this is the real issue that is plaguing james harden's career

[Sedale Threatt]

we've all worked with a kyrie and wished we had the ability to force a trade like james harden did.

They just destroy morale. I worked with a guy who wasn't very good at his job -- in Kyrie's defense, he's one of the best in the history of his -- who somehow had the top dog's ear and could pretty much do whatever he wanted. So he did, and it f'ing sucked.

That's before you get into all of Harden's crap. The fact that he couldn't even come into the season in shape, in a profession revolving around his physical condition, speaks pretty poorly of him, among other issues.

[MotownMadness]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

He didn't quit on the Rockets, they quit on him.

Kyrie gets vaxxed, this is not an issue. Nuff said.

Sounds like he wasn't fully committing either to the game. That article posted above talks about him still trying to live the night life on their recent west coast trip and underperforming after like his 4pt performance.

[G R E Y]

I don't have time to go through this thread to check whether this has been posted yet, but this stands out:

Read on Twitter

Now Patty's never been the guy to directly state something or even take passive aggressive shots at someone, so for him to say even this much - and he was with us during the whole #2 debacle! - says A LOT.

[VanWest82]

There wasn't nearly enough dribble, dribble, dribble...

[Marvin Martian]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

The team was not a contender. They could not beat elite teams. And there just wasn't a sense of urgency coming from the Nets to win a championship. Nash wasn't fired and Kyrie refused to get vaccinated despite the team's struggles. Unless those 2 things happen the Nets are not winning anything. Harden knew that and left. He also knew that he was declining and didn't have much time before his all star playing days are over. I understand his decision, but I wished that he stood up to Nash and Kyrie instead of forcing his way out.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

By the time KD came back, they might be like the 9th seed. And even in the playoffs, Kyrie can't even play at home. As fun as it is carrying a G-League roster getting doubled teamed constantly week after week, I can see why he was tired of this nonsense.

Maybe if Harden didn't suck ass the whole time KD was out we wouldn't be a 9 seed.

Hes supposed to be an MVP level player. And he sucked.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

He didn't quit on the Rockets, they quit on him.

Kyrie gets vaxxed, this is not an issue. Nuff said.

James Harden should be able to win with Kevin Durant.

Its not that crazy for him to do.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

The team was not a contender. They could not beat elite teams. And there just wasn't a sense of urgency coming from the Nets to win a championship. Nash wasn't fired and Kyrie refused to get vaccinated despite the team's struggles. Unless those 2 things happen the Nets are not winning anything. Harden knew that and left. He also knew that he was declining and didn't have much time before his all star playing days are over. I understand his decision, but I wished that he stood up to Nash and Kyrie instead of forcing his way out.

Why were they not a contender?

Maybe because Harden sucked all year? And was fat/out of shape. And then quit?

I agree Nash sucked Maybe Harden could have pushed for his firing instead of quitting.

[eyeatoma]

Harden is a quitter.

When the going gets tough he gets going.

Could have at least waited for KD to get back and try to go on a run.

Instead he ran for the nearest exit.

Lets see what happens when hes the #1 guy in the clutch again. So far hes been a disaster in those moments.

He didn't quit on the Rockets, they quit on him.

Kyrie gets vaxxed, this is not an issue. Nuff said.

James Harden should be able to win with Kevin Durant.

Its not that crazy for him to do.

He was and then Durant got hurt. Then he had to deal with Kyrie playing on again off again. This isn't hard to understand.

[audiosway]

My thoughts? Because he wouldn't have an excuse when they didn't win a title. He's mentally not cut out for the limelight. That and Kyrie is an odd dude.