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kulaz3000 wrote:I apologise to everyone on the General Board for this thread, which was clearly only created for the soul purpose to bash on a young rookie whom the poster clearly has a disdain for, and in hopes to garner the support of other posters with a similar point of view.
bearadonisdna wrote:ch434355 wrote:This isn't a debate on the Bulls board. Ayo is clearly better.
Ayo is completely overrated over there .
Not gonna coach or even put much context
The numbers speak for themselves dude , I don’t have to create a narrative .
bearadonisdna wrote:ch434355 wrote:Dzon Dilindzer wrote:i dont even know who ayo is
Second round pick who would be a lottery pick in a redraft. He's been unbelievable, especially since Filling in for Lonzo has a starter
Lies . Before tonight he has been trash .
2-7 vs .500 teams
6/9 terrible performances .
People won’t acknowledge it they parade the bum hunting .
2-7 vs .500 teams
Madhouse wrote:Coby White is not good. He is solid on offense but a horrible defender.
step wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:ch434355 wrote:
Second round pick who would be a lottery pick in a redraft. He's been unbelievable, especially since Filling in for Lonzo has a starter
Lies . Before tonight he has been trash .
2-7 vs .500 teams
6/9 terrible performances .
People won’t acknowledge it they parade the bum hunting .
Lies? Before tonight he's been trash. I'm sorry but posts like this are why you're being laughed off the Bulls board.
A second-round draft pick is somehow selected for the Rising Stars game.
Even ESPN features him in their top 10 rookie power rankings.
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33083684/why-evan-mobley-no-1-cade-cunningham-progression-surprise-second-rounders-more
And that was found in less than a 30-sec google on Ayo, just to highlight what paid media pundits think of him. It is without a doubt he'd go in the lottery in a redraft.2-7 vs .500 teams
So Ayo is now solely responsible for the Bulls record now?
Screw the actual all-stars on the team, they ride and die by Ayo now.
Here are some tweets to put out there, further highlighting how disillusioned you are.
bearadonisdna wrote:step wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
Lies . Before tonight he has been trash .
2-7 vs .500 teams
6/9 terrible performances .
People won’t acknowledge it they parade the bum hunting .
Lies? Before tonight he's been trash. I'm sorry but posts like this are why you're being laughed off the Bulls board.
A second-round draft pick is somehow selected for the Rising Stars game.
Even ESPN features him in their top 10 rookie power rankings.
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33083684/why-evan-mobley-no-1-cade-cunningham-progression-surprise-second-rounders-more
And that was found in less than a 30-sec google on Ayo, just to highlight what paid media pundits think of him. It is without a doubt he'd go in the lottery in a redraft.2-7 vs .500 teams
So Ayo is now solely responsible for the Bulls record now?
Screw the actual all-stars on the team, they ride and die by Ayo now.
Here are some tweets to put out there, further highlighting how disillusioned you are.
Wat are you talking about ? Lol I flamed those dudes so hard with that graphic that I had to be warned . That’s why I’m here to discuss it. This poll is a just a side discussion.
Ok , the GB has been wrong before . Congrats . It was said Boston asked for cobe not ayo. Then it snow balled to my belief that MOST teams would prefer cobe. You know the actual established nba player with a body of work . Not a guy who every nba team passed on and said no thank you .
The main point is that on the bulls board he is so overrated , and even you yourself can’t admit that the he was ass garbage in most of the games he started . It’s complete denial but you guys act like basketball savants when you dismiss objective facts .
Madhouse wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:step wrote:Lies? Before tonight he's been trash. I'm sorry but posts like this are why you're being laughed off the Bulls board.
A second-round draft pick is somehow selected for the Rising Stars game.
Even ESPN features him in their top 10 rookie power rankings.
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33083684/why-evan-mobley-no-1-cade-cunningham-progression-surprise-second-rounders-more
And that was found in less than a 30-sec google on Ayo, just to highlight what paid media pundits think of him. It is without a doubt he'd go in the lottery in a redraft.
So Ayo is now solely responsible for the Bulls record now?
Screw the actual all-stars on the team, they ride and die by Ayo now.
Here are some tweets to put out there, further highlighting how disillusioned you are.
Wat are you talking about ? Lol I flamed those dudes so hard with that graphic that I had to be warned . That’s why I’m here to discuss it. This poll is a just a side discussion.
Ok , the GB has been wrong before . Congrats . It was said Boston asked for cobe not ayo. Then it snow balled to my belief that MOST teams would prefer cobe. You know the actual established nba player with a body of work . Not a guy who every nba team passed on and said no thank you .
The main point is that on the bulls board he is so overrated , and even you yourself can’t admit that the he was ass garbage in most of the games he started . It’s complete denial but you guys act like basketball savants when you dismiss objective facts .
he has played well for being a rookie.
Objectively better than Coby White.
Not sure what more context you need?
bearadonisdna wrote:Madhouse wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
Wat are you talking about ? Lol I flamed those dudes so hard with that graphic that I had to be warned . That’s why I’m here to discuss it. This poll is a just a side discussion.
Ok , the GB has been wrong before . Congrats . It was said Boston asked for cobe not ayo. Then it snow balled to my belief that MOST teams would prefer cobe. You know the actual established nba player with a body of work . Not a guy who every nba team passed on and said no thank you .
The main point is that on the bulls board he is so overrated , and even you yourself can’t admit that the he was ass garbage in most of the games he started . It’s complete denial but you guys act like basketball savants when you dismiss objective facts .
he has played well for being a rookie.
Objectively better than Coby White.
Not sure what more context you need?
He isn’t . he is better defensively but doesn’t help the bulls offense or defense. Actually bogs it down and vs better teams have worse offense than their counterparts while starting a defensive player that doesn’t help .it’s stupidity .
The same stupidity on the bulls board and dumbnovan that thought starting satoranski was better than Cobe while tanking their season .
Bulls fans still wont take credit for that gaffe . They be quiet until it comes to the board boy toys like this kid who gets most of the bandwidth after Zach and Demar go for 25+ or Vuc for 15 and 15 but we gotta hear about this below average player .
That’s the bottom line . Statistically this kid is below average ! Cobe apparently is too. Still that doesn’t give this kid the free pass . So while all you guys do your victory lap remember he is BELOw AVERAGE. The bulls can start zack fn LaVine at pointguard . Who tf needs ayo ?
Madhouse wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:Madhouse wrote:
he has played well for being a rookie.
Objectively better than Coby White.
Not sure what more context you need?
He isn’t . he is better defensively but doesn’t help the bulls offense or defense. Actually bogs it down and vs better teams have worse offense than their counterparts while starting a defensive player that doesn’t help .it’s stupidity .
The same stupidity on the bulls board and dumbnovan that thought starting satoranski was better than Cobe while tanking their season .
Bulls fans still wont take credit for that gaffe . They be quiet until it comes to the board boy toys like this kid who gets most of the bandwidth after Zach and Demar go for 25+ or Vuc for 15 and 15 but we gotta hear about this below average player .
That’s the bottom line . Statistically this kid is below average ! Cobe apparently is too. Still that doesn’t give this kid the free pass . So while all you guys do your victory lap remember he is BELOw AVERAGE. The bulls can start zack fn LaVine at pointguard . Who tf needs ayo ?
Their on/off numbers are basically the same.
EPM:
Ayo -2.0
Coby -3.2
Raptor:
Ayo -2.1
Coby -3.0
Lebron:
Ayo -1.19
Coby -1.90
BPM:
Ayo -1.7
Coby -2.5
He is below average,yes but that doesn't change the fact that Ayo as a rookie is better, more talented and more impactful than Coby White as a 3rd year player. You might not like that but it's the truth.
bearadonisdna wrote:Madhouse wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
He isn’t . he is better defensively but doesn’t help the bulls offense or defense. Actually bogs it down and vs better teams have worse offense than their counterparts while starting a defensive player that doesn’t help .it’s stupidity .
The same stupidity on the bulls board and dumbnovan that thought starting satoranski was better than Cobe while tanking their season .
Bulls fans still wont take credit for that gaffe . They be quiet until it comes to the board boy toys like this kid who gets most of the bandwidth after Zach and Demar go for 25+ or Vuc for 15 and 15 but we gotta hear about this below average player .
That’s the bottom line . Statistically this kid is below average ! Cobe apparently is too. Still that doesn’t give this kid the free pass . So while all you guys do your victory lap remember he is BELOw AVERAGE. The bulls can start zack fn LaVine at pointguard . Who tf needs ayo ?
Their on/off numbers are basically the same.
EPM:
Ayo -2.0
Coby -3.2
Raptor:
Ayo -2.1
Coby -3.0
Lebron:
Ayo -1.19
Coby -1.90
BPM:
Ayo -1.7
Coby -2.5
He is below average,yes but that doesn't change the fact that Ayo as a rookie is better, more talented and more impactful than Coby White as a 3rd year player. You might not like that but it's the truth.
Per 36
Cobe :17 points 3a 3r 54% efg 13PER
Ayo-: 11 points 4a 3r 60% efg 11PER
bearadonisdna wrote:Madhouse wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
He isn’t . he is better defensively but doesn’t help the bulls offense or defense. Actually bogs it down and vs better teams have worse offense than their counterparts while starting a defensive player that doesn’t help .it’s stupidity .
The same stupidity on the bulls board and dumbnovan that thought starting satoranski was better than Cobe while tanking their season .
Bulls fans still wont take credit for that gaffe . They be quiet until it comes to the board boy toys like this kid who gets most of the bandwidth after Zach and Demar go for 25+ or Vuc for 15 and 15 but we gotta hear about this below average player .
That’s the bottom line . Statistically this kid is below average ! Cobe apparently is too. Still that doesn’t give this kid the free pass . So while all you guys do your victory lap remember he is BELOw AVERAGE. The bulls can start zack fn LaVine at pointguard . Who tf needs ayo ?
Their on/off numbers are basically the same.
EPM:
Ayo -2.0
Coby -3.2
Raptor:
Ayo -2.1
Coby -3.0
Lebron:
Ayo -1.19
Coby -1.90
BPM:
Ayo -1.7
Coby -2.5
He is below average,yes but that doesn't change the fact that Ayo as a rookie is better, more talented and more impactful than Coby White as a 3rd year player. You might not like that but it's the truth.
Per 36
Cobe :17 points 3a 3r 54% efg 13PER
Ayo-: 11 points 4a 3r 60% efg 11PER
bearadonisdna wrote:step wrote:bearadonisdna wrote:
Lies . Before tonight he has been trash .
2-7 vs .500 teams
6/9 terrible performances .
People won’t acknowledge it they parade the bum hunting .
Lies? Before tonight he's been trash. I'm sorry but posts like this are why you're being laughed off the Bulls board.
A second-round draft pick is somehow selected for the Rising Stars game.
Even ESPN features him in their top 10 rookie power rankings.
https://www.espn.com.au/nba/insider/insider/story/_/id/33083684/why-evan-mobley-no-1-cade-cunningham-progression-surprise-second-rounders-more
And that was found in less than a 30-sec google on Ayo, just to highlight what paid media pundits think of him. It is without a doubt he'd go in the lottery in a redraft.2-7 vs .500 teams
So Ayo is now solely responsible for the Bulls record now?
Screw the actual all-stars on the team, they ride and die by Ayo now.
Here are some tweets to put out there, further highlighting how disillusioned you are.
Wat are you talking about ? Lol I flamed those dudes so hard with that graphic that I had to be warned . That’s why I’m here to discuss it. This poll is a just a side discussion.
Ok , the GB has been wrong before . Congrats . It was said Boston asked for cobe not ayo. Then it snow balled to my belief that MOST teams would prefer cobe. You know the actual established nba player with a body of work . Not a guy who every nba team passed on and said no thank you .
The main point is that on the bulls board he is so overrated , and even you yourself can’t admit that the he was ass garbage in most of the games he started . It’s complete denial but you guys act like basketball savants when you dismiss objective facts .
In games he has started, 11.4p 6.8a 3.8r 1.2s 1.6to 54.7%fg 41.8%3p
For a starting NBA PG, that's pretty mediocre. Nice efficiency, relatively low volume.
fleet wrote:In games he has started, 11.4p 6.8a 3.8r 1.2s 1.6to 54.7%fg 41.8%3p
For a starting NBA PG, that's pretty mediocre. Nice efficiency, relatively low volume.
Certainly comparable to Lonzo Ball’s career numbers, and this year. For a rookie I wouldn’t want to call the numbers mediocre though. Rookie and all.
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