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Post#781 » by Mattatron » Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:33 pm

I like Max Christie a lot
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Post#782 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:31 pm

Klaw22 wrote:I like Max Christie a lot


Would he be like Doug Christie?
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Psubs wrote:
Klaw22 wrote:I like Max Christie a lot


Would he be like Doug Christie?


Haha I hope so, a Doug Christie type of guy next to Fred and GTJ would be awesome
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Post#784 » by Ell Curry » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:04 am

Re: some previous posts,

I think we're too far back to get Keels. His strength will appeal to some team that wants a guard but doesn't want a tiny 1, which along with big 5s are just gonna drop and drop in drafts for the next few years.

That Jordan Hall tape and his 3s and rebound/assists stats are good looking, but he's at a disgusting 41% and 43% on 2s in a weak conference, which feels like a non-starter unless we think he's gonna get much stronger or better going to the rim.

Trading for Thad Young makes me think EJ Liddell might of interest. His blocks are way up and he's hitting 3s. Should have the beef to defend centers but the ability to slide and rotate and switch a bit too, and at least decently hit 3s and space the floor.
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Post#785 » by Psubs » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:19 am

Is it crazy to think that teams will be scared off from Kendall Brown's and he falls to #31?



He's a perfect SG/SF complement to the team.
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Post#786 » by Madhouse » Sat Feb 12, 2022 12:55 pm

Psubs wrote:Is it crazy to think that teams will be scared off from Kendall Brown's and he falls to #31?



He's a perfect SG/SF complement to the team.


don't think it's crazy but I would prefer to try to hit big on an international prospect at 31. Or try to find the next Jalen brunson. The odds of a freshman at the top of the 2nd round becoming a stud are really low. I think we are probably going to look at the next experienced college player though we can still develop. Seabron or Koloko for example.
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Post#787 » by JShuttlesworth » Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:13 pm

Psubs wrote:Is it crazy to think that teams will be scared off from Kendall Brown's and he falls to #31?



He's a perfect SG/SF complement to the team.


I don't see him as an SG at all, he doesn't like to shoot.

He's a SF, but he isn't really going to stretch the floor because he shoots such a low volume of 3's and prefers getting his buckets at the rim. He's more of a hustle guy in my opinion, someone who is going to do the little things; play defense, rebound, disrupt passing lanes, etc. He fits right in with our defensive identity, but offensively I think he leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't think he's going to be particularly effective in the half-court, he has a lot of work to do offensively, but I do like the way he cuts to the rim and moves without the ball. He doesn't really create his own baskets, everything is coming off of the transition game, lobs, or cuts.

I think he's taken somewhere between 14-25, but I don't see him being available at 31-32.
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Post#788 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Feb 12, 2022 5:19 pm

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Psubs wrote:Is it crazy to think that teams will be scared off from Kendall Brown's and he falls to #31?



He's a perfect SG/SF complement to the team.


I don't see him as an SG at all, he doesn't like to shoot.

He's a SF, but he isn't really going to stretch the floor because he shoots such a low volume of 3's and prefers getting his buckets at the rim. He's more of a hustle guy in my opinion, someone who is going to do the little things; play defense, rebound, disrupt passing lanes, etc. He fits right in with our defensive identity, but offensively I think he leaves a lot to be desired.

I don't think he's going to be particularly effective in the half-court, he has a lot of work to do offensively, but I do like the way he cuts to the rim and moves without the ball. He doesn't really create his own baskets, everything is coming off of the transition game, lobs, or cuts.

I think he's taken somewhere between 14-25, but I don't see him being available at 31-32.


I can tell you've seen him play quite a bit. Really good evaluation of him.

I think I am going to rethink who we draft to find a multi-position player than can preferably shoot. Maybe a 2-3 or 1 -2 or even a 1-2-3 that's fairly tall, that solely based off of Masai and Bobby's interviews.

Also we should do a contest on who gets this pick right. It will be tough to pick this year.
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Post#789 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:33 pm

I think it's very telling that we essentially traded down from the 20s to early 30s. For me that screams that we are confident our guy will still be there in the 30s. So instead of trying to guess who the raptors wanted in the first round, I would look into who fits the "positionless" basketball from pick 35-50. Who fits our draft profile?

- long boi , with long wingspan
- Plays defense and gives effort (Drafting "workers")
- Perhaps slipping due to shooting concerns. Which we would take a gamble on?

We are probably out of the Griffin/Mathurin market, unless we make a trade. I wonder if Champagnie is still being looked at
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Post#790 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Feb 12, 2022 7:44 pm

I'm pretty damn confident we're taking Julian Champagnie.
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Post#791 » by grant101 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:20 pm

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:I think it's very telling that we essentially traded down from the 20s to early 30s. For me that screams that we are confident our guy will still be there in the 30s. So instead of trying to guess who the raptors wanted in the first round, I would look into who fits the "positionless" basketball from pick 35-50. Who fits our draft profile?

- long boi , with long wingspan
- Plays defense and gives effort (Drafting "workers")
- Perhaps slipping due to shooting concerns. Which we would take a gamble on?

We are probably out of the Griffin/Mathurin market, unless we make a trade. I wonder if Champagnie is still being looked at




Dereon Seabron, Alex Fudge, Peyton Watson and Josh Minott fit this profile. Big fan of Seabron. He brings something the Raptors desperately need - someone able of breaking down a defence one-on-one. The way he drives reminds me a bit of Shai - so instinctual.

I could also see Jalen Williams (Santa Clara) being someone another big wing they consider, though he can already shoot.

Blake Wesley is also a favourite, and has the makings of a prototypical two guard, but not sure he lasts to the second
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Post#792 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:37 pm

PhilBlackson wrote:I'm pretty damn confident we're taking Julian Champagnie.


Why? Don't say because we have his brother.
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Post#793 » by AbC? » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:41 pm

Thoughts on David Roddy? He's slashing a ridiculous 58/49/72, 66% TS and averaging 19/8/3 for Colorado St. Question mark is he's 6'5 and chunky as hell, might struggle with the quickness/length of the NBA and finding a position to defend. Basically an undersized SF/PF.

Those numbers are hard to ignore though, even in a weaker conference. 21 years old draft age. Interesting prospect.

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Post#794 » by Kevin Willis » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:49 pm

grant101 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:I think it's very telling that we essentially traded down from the 20s to early 30s. For me that screams that we are confident our guy will still be there in the 30s. So instead of trying to guess who the raptors wanted in the first round, I would look into who fits the "positionless" basketball from pick 35-50. Who fits our draft profile?

- long boi , with long wingspan
- Plays defense and gives effort (Drafting "workers")
- Perhaps slipping due to shooting concerns. Which we would take a gamble on?

We are probably out of the Griffin/Mathurin market, unless we make a trade. I wonder if Champagnie is still being looked at




Dereon Seabron, Alex Fudge, Peyton Watson and Josh Minott fit this profile. Big fan of Seabron. He brings something the Raptors desperately need - someone able of breaking down a defence one-on-one. The way he drives reminds me a bit of Shai - so instinctual.

I could also see Jalen Williams (Santa Clara) being someone another big wing they consider, though he can already shoot.

Blake Wesley is also a favourite, and has the makings of a prototypical two guard, but not sure he lasts to the second


My list of players who are long and could play multiple position around where we are drafting is Seabron(1,2,3,4), Procida (2.3) and Dieng (1-5). Guys that might fall are Dyson Daniels (1,2) and Sochen (3,$). Seabron is a great get and we can teach him how to shoot but he might play himself into the first round. Tari Eason is alright. The guy from Stanford. Jalen Williams is an option playing in a smaller conference, wonder what his wingspan is. His defense from the clips I saw was pretty good.
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Post#795 » by PhilBlackson » Sat Feb 12, 2022 8:51 pm

Kevin Willis wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:I'm pretty damn confident we're taking Julian Champagnie.


Why? Don't say because we have his brother.


Why not is the better question?!??



6'8 wing that fits right in with what we do, one of the better & more versatile scorers that could back up both GT and OG (who always deals with various little injuries), provides a much needed scoring punch to the bench, that also stretches the floor, good rebounder for his position which is key considering our lack of a true C and yes I'm sure having his brother here doesn't hurt as franchise that values team chemistry. But you're free to say why not or you just object because "no his brother is here already" lol

Other guys I think we'll look at will be Keels, McGowens, Hall (could see Raps loving him too though) & Lewis.
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Post#796 » by grant101 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:06 pm

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grant101 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:I think it's very telling that we essentially traded down from the 20s to early 30s. For me that screams that we are confident our guy will still be there in the 30s. So instead of trying to guess who the raptors wanted in the first round, I would look into who fits the "positionless" basketball from pick 35-50. Who fits our draft profile?

- long boi , with long wingspan
- Plays defense and gives effort (Drafting "workers")
- Perhaps slipping due to shooting concerns. Which we would take a gamble on?

We are probably out of the Griffin/Mathurin market, unless we make a trade. I wonder if Champagnie is still being looked at




Dereon Seabron, Alex Fudge, Peyton Watson and Josh Minott fit this profile. Big fan of Seabron. He brings something the Raptors desperately need - someone able of breaking down a defence one-on-one. The way he drives reminds me a bit of Shai - so instinctual.

I could also see Jalen Williams (Santa Clara) being someone another big wing they consider, though he can already shoot.

Blake Wesley is also a favourite, and has the makings of a prototypical two guard, but not sure he lasts to the second


My list of players who are long and could play multiple position around where we are drafting is Seabron(1,2,3,4), Procida (2.3) and Dieng (1-5). Guys that might fall are Dyson Daniels (1,2) and Sochen (3,$). Seabron is a great get and we can teach him how to shoot but he might play himself into the first round. Tari Eason is alright. The guy from Stanford. Jalen Williams is an option playing in a smaller conference, wonder what his wingspan is. His defense from the clips I saw was pretty good.


I have an inkling Sochan was the pick mgt had in mind before the recent win streak and his recent surge up draft boards. Might have made trading down more palatable. He's going to take some time, but he screams 'Raptor.' I worry about the defence and/or athleticism for Procida and Ingram (Stanford). Don't think they even consider prospects that can't defend.

Eason and Daniels (and Beauchamp for that matter) are interesting, but I honestly don't think much separates them from the other prospects listed. Plus, not a fan of players that can only finish with one hand (Eason). In any case, I don't think they'll be there anyways.

Not sure what to make of Dieng. His numbers are putrid, but the flashes are so enticing! Need to watch more.

Minott is playing now BTW
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Post#797 » by Ell Curry » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:09 pm

AbC? wrote:Thoughts on David Roddy? He's slashing a ridiculous 58/49/72, 66% TS and averaging 19/8/3 for Colorado St. Question mark is he's 6'5 and chunky as hell, might struggle with the quickness/length of the NBA and finding a position to defend. Basically an undersized SF/PF.

Those numbers are hard to ignore though, even in a weaker conference. 21 years old draft age. Interesting prospect.



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Post#798 » by Ell Curry » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:13 pm

grant101 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:I think it's very telling that we essentially traded down from the 20s to early 30s. For me that screams that we are confident our guy will still be there in the 30s. So instead of trying to guess who the raptors wanted in the first round, I would look into who fits the "positionless" basketball from pick 35-50. Who fits our draft profile?

- long boi , with long wingspan
- Plays defense and gives effort (Drafting "workers")
- Perhaps slipping due to shooting concerns. Which we would take a gamble on?

We are probably out of the Griffin/Mathurin market, unless we make a trade. I wonder if Champagnie is still being looked at




Dereon Seabron, Alex Fudge, Peyton Watson and Josh Minott fit this profile. Big fan of Seabron. He brings something the Raptors desperately need - someone able of breaking down a defence one-on-one. The way he drives reminds me a bit of Shai - so instinctual.

I could also see Jalen Williams (Santa Clara) being someone another big wing they consider, though he can already shoot.

Blake Wesley is also a favourite, and has the makings of a prototypical two guard, but not sure he lasts to the second


Minott is at 77% on FT, which bodes well. He does stand out when I've watched Memphis as a guy with NBA athleticism.
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Post#799 » by grant101 » Sat Feb 12, 2022 9:21 pm

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grant101 wrote:
CoinTossRoss31 wrote:I think it's very telling that we essentially traded down from the 20s to early 30s. For me that screams that we are confident our guy will still be there in the 30s. So instead of trying to guess who the raptors wanted in the first round, I would look into who fits the "positionless" basketball from pick 35-50. Who fits our draft profile?

- long boi , with long wingspan
- Plays defense and gives effort (Drafting "workers")
- Perhaps slipping due to shooting concerns. Which we would take a gamble on?

We are probably out of the Griffin/Mathurin market, unless we make a trade. I wonder if Champagnie is still being looked at




Dereon Seabron, Alex Fudge, Peyton Watson and Josh Minott fit this profile. Big fan of Seabron. He brings something the Raptors desperately need - someone able of breaking down a defence one-on-one. The way he drives reminds me a bit of Shai - so instinctual.

I could also see Jalen Williams (Santa Clara) being someone another big wing they consider, though he can already shoot.

Blake Wesley is also a favourite, and has the makings of a prototypical two guard, but not sure he lasts to the second


Minott is at 77% on FT, which bodes well. He does stand out when I've watched Memphis as a guy with NBA athleticism.


Certainly not explosive athleticism, more 'sneaky'. Biggest thing for him will be adding strength. But the skills and defensive potential are there I think. In any case, my guess is he stays one more year
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