Let's talk about just how bad that KP trade was

[gottamakeit]

5 pages and no one posted Lowes perfect comment why the Mavs did it?

Here you go:

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33264034/lowe-ridiculous-nba-trade-deadline-which-players-teams-officially-notice

Can you summarize here (without plagiarizing) ?
alot of us don't have ESPN+

[gottamakeit]

Mavs inability to get a young guy or good pick makes no sense. Washington is already calling him Jokic, so teaks definitely valued him.

Are you saying that Wizards would have done the deal without even if they had to offer more? For example without Mavs attaching second round pick to it.

If the Mavs really wanted to shed salary, they would've sent KP to a tanking team, attaching a first round pick(which they don't value anyways). An offseason move for sure, which would've allowed them to have one more go with Luka & KP in this season's playoffs.

With this trade, they've tanked on this season's playoff hopes.... And they've killed their longterm flexibility (a well cited reason by Nico for this trade).

Bertan's dead-weight contract is a franchise killer.

[Swish1906]

5 pages and no one posted Lowes perfect comment why the Mavs did it?

Here you go:

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33264034/lowe-ridiculous-nba-trade-deadline-which-players-teams-officially-notice

Can you summarize here (without plagiarizing) ?
alot of us don't have ESPN+

Its not behind a paywall!

[gottamakeit]

5 pages and no one posted Lowes perfect comment why the Mavs did it?

Here you go:

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33264034/lowe-ridiculous-nba-trade-deadline-which-players-teams-officially-notice

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[J_T]

Mavs inability to get a young guy or good pick makes no sense. Washington is already calling him Jokic, so teaks definitely valued him.

Are you saying that Wizards would have done the deal without even if they had to offer more? For example without Mavs attaching second round pick to it.

If the Mavs really wanted to shed salary, they would've sent KP to a tanking team, attaching a first round pick(which they don't value anyways). An offseason move for sure, which would've allowed them to have one more go with Luka & KP in this season's playoffs.

With this trade, they've tanked on this season's hopes.

Bertan's dead-weight contract is a franchise killer.

The only FRP they can trade is 2027+.

[sisibilio]

https://youtu.be/QjKHQQccWAQ?t=46

[Pointgod]

5 pages and no one posted Lowes perfect comment why the Mavs did it?

Here you go:

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33264034/lowe-ridiculous-nba-trade-deadline-which-players-teams-officially-notice

Can you summarize here (without plagiarizing) ?
alot of us don't have ESPN+

Its not behind a paywall!

This part?

There is no way to read this trade other than the Mavericks flat wanted out of the Porzingis business.

[gottamakeit]

Are you saying that Wizards would have done the deal without even if they had to offer more? For example without Mavs attaching second round pick to it.

If the Mavs really wanted to shed salary, they would've sent KP to a tanking team, attaching a first round pick(which they don't value anyways). An offseason move for sure, which would've allowed them to have one more go with Luka & KP in this season's playoffs.

With this trade, they've tanked on this season's hopes.

Bertan's dead-weight contract is a franchise killer.

The only FRP they can trade is 2027+.

They have their pick this year. Can't trade it before actually choosing a player tho. That's why I said it would've been better to move KP in the off-season.

[J_T]

If the Mavs really wanted to shed salary, they would've sent KP to a tanking team, attaching a first round pick(which they don't value anyways). An offseason move for sure, which would've allowed them to have one more go with Luka & KP in this season's playoffs.

With this trade, they've tanked on this season's hopes.

Bertan's dead-weight contract is a franchise killer.

The only FRP they can trade is 2027+.

They have their pick this year. Can't trade it before actually choosing a player tho. That's why I said it would've been better to move KP in the off-season.

Too risky. By that time his value might be again negative infinity with who knows what injury. As it was said in one of the videos, KP refused to do "X money for each block" charity deal for the season (as he did last season) because he was not expecting to stay in Dallas entire season. They all knew it, they were just waiting for his value to get high enough to be tradeable again.

[picc]

Think the Mavs could have gotten McCollum instead?

[Pennebaker]

I thought the Mavs were better off. I wouldn't want KP on my team either.

[gottamakeit]

The only FRP they can trade is 2027+.

They have their pick this year. Can't trade it before actually choosing a player tho. That's why I said it would've been better to move KP in the off-season.

Too risky. By that time his value might be again negative infinity with who knows what injury. As it was said in one of the videos, KP refused to do "X money for each block" charity deal for the season (as he did last season) because he was not expecting to stay in Dallas entire season. They all knew it, they were just waiting for his value to get high enough to be tradeable again.

Way to cherry pick something to create a narrative.

I've listened to plenty of KP interviews this season, he was as happy & bought-in as I've ever seen him. He's a consummate professional by all accounts.

Acting now, was acting in fear (the fear being another KP injury); a recipe for disaster...

[LAL1947]

I've listened to plenty of KP interviews this season, he was as happy & bought-in as I've ever seen him. He's a consummate professional by all accounts.

Agreed with this. I'm not sure why some are trying to invent "locker room disharmony" as a possible reason for the trade, or trying to paint him as being toxic in any way. Those reports are more true of Dinwiddie in Washington than of Porzingis.

[Pointgod]

Think the Mavs could have gotten McCollum instead?

Apparently Raptors were in discussion for KP for Dragic and filler. Raps probably didn’t want to take on long term salary. Can’t say that I really blame them.

[Ell Curry]

The KP market must just not have existed if they couldn't get Kuzma or even KCP (one year less to pay) instead of Dinwiddie. Or they never moved off their evaluation of Dinwiddie from 2-3 years ago (he seems to have slipped a tad as an ISO player based on his Beal-less minutes this year).

I could have seen Porzingis for Horford + Theis working. Mavs would have Horford this playoffs and could waive him and save 15M next year and 28 the year after. Celtics are spending 23M on Horford and Theis anyways if they waive him or the same money if they don't waive Porzingis, and one extra year at 36 is a ton but don't have to pay Theis for another year and the tax will be higher and their other guys are all signed.

[gottamakeit]

Think the Mavs could have gotten McCollum instead?

Apparently Raptors were in discussion for KP for Dragic and filler. Raps probably didn’t want to take on long term salary. Can’t say that I really blame them.

Raptors likely also wanted Josh Green and/or Jalen Brunson in exchange for some of their low-value overpaid guys (Khem & Boucher) + Dragic.... so a non-starter for the Mavs

[picc]

Think the Mavs could have gotten McCollum instead?

Apparently Raptors were in discussion for KP for Dragic and filler. Raps probably didn’t want to take on long term salary. Can’t say that I really blame them.

Dragic isn't enough of a return for KP. Dinwiddie isnt great, but at least he's been playing and is a starter.

Just saying cause McCollum could have really helped Luka's scoring load. Dinwiddie is an extra ballhandler but doesn't particularly move the needle in any direction.

[Jagic Mohnson]

That trade is like when you vacation in some country and buy crap you dont need and feel stupid wasting your money on said crap.

[Snowwy]

This is the worst trade at the deadline. Mavs got fleeced. KP was good this season, they got Wizards trash for him. And what, Mavs added first round pick?!!!? I realised that only now. I don't get that trade from Mavs perspective at all.

I'm not sure 45% / 28% is good for a guy who is apparently an offensive star. That is a brutal contract that basically cannot be moved. Dinwiddie can be moved for sure and having those middle sized contracts is huge for trades.

[picc]

That trade is like when you vacation in some country and buy crap you dont need and feel stupid wasting your money on said crap.

And that country is Latvia?