LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1301 » by homecourtloss » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:32 am

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Greyhound wrote:Another game given away with this dog crap LeBron at center lineup.

This is just hilarious.

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The smaller you play the harder you have to work on defense. Just play one big.


Yep it's trash. Would rather just see Howard or Jordan out there instead of Ariza. If Muscala gets a buyout Lakers should pounce, he could be put in for these lineups.


The only hope with that lineup given the players the Lakers have is to outscore opponents which they do against bad teams, but the shooters aren’t good enough to reliably make up for trash defense and giving up ORebs left and right. If you had some gunners then maybe but as is, nope as Ariza is now also cooked.
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Post#1302 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:40 am

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zimpy27 wrote:
Greyhound wrote:Another game given away with this dog crap LeBron at center lineup.

This is just hilarious.

———-

The smaller you play the harder you have to work on defense. Just play one big.


Yep it's trash. Would rather just see Howard or Jordan out there instead of Ariza. If Muscala gets a buyout Lakers should pounce, he could be put in for these lineups.


The only hope with that lineup given the players the Lakers have is to outscore opponents which they do against bad teams, but the shooters aren’t good enough to reliably make up for trash defense and giving up ORebs left and right. If you had some gunners then maybe but as is, nope as Ariza is now also cooked.


Muscala is a good shooter and rebounder. He'd help on both ends for a lineup like this. The defense is bad because LeBron isn't going to be bale to help much as a last line of defense guy. He's best as a 2nd last line of defense type.
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Post#1303 » by Greyhound » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:43 am

LeBron is routinely bottoming out plus/minus wise. It’s because of those atrocious LeBron at center lineups.

They make no sense.

Those lineups were concocted to create space for Westbrook, but he does not even play in those idiotic lineups.

LeBron is being forced to carry an idiotic lineup that does not even benefit his game. The guy (Westbrook) that the lineup was created to benefit does not even play in them.

Just what exactly is Vogel trying to achieve with that garbage?

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LeBron at center only makes sense if the plan is to cram a Westbrook/LeBron pick and roll (surrounded by shooters) down the opponent’s throat.

LeBron (by himself) with bench players, playing center, and running the offense is just dumb.
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Post#1304 » by nzahir » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:43 am

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homecourtloss wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Yep it's trash. Would rather just see Howard or Jordan out there instead of Ariza. If Muscala gets a buyout Lakers should pounce, he could be put in for these lineups.


The only hope with that lineup given the players the Lakers have is to outscore opponents which they do against bad teams, but the shooters aren’t good enough to reliably make up for trash defense and giving up ORebs left and right. If you had some gunners then maybe but as is, nope as Ariza is now also cooked.


Muscala is a good shooter and rebounder. He'd help on both ends for a lineup like this. The defense is bad because LeBron isn't going to be bale to help much as a last line of defense guy. He's best as a 2nd last line of defense type.

Failure by the FO that we didnt even go after Muscula or Kenrich Williams

Both would be useful for this season and next season and on cheap deals

Could have gotten them for 2nds
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Post#1305 » by homecourtloss » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:50 am

Lakers are losing a game in which they shot 55% in the first half (including 19 of 28 to finish the half), shot 63% from three, committed only 4 TOs, AND got 16 FTA. Seems like the Blazers game all over again.

On the bright side, they carved up a very good defense (yes, no Draymond) pretty easily, Westbrook playing calmer, and THT looking decent of late.
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Post#1306 » by letskissbro » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:50 am

Greyhound wrote:LeBron is routinely bottoming out plus/minus wise. It’s because of those atrocious LeBron at center lineups.

They make no sense.

Those lineups were concocted to create space for Westbrook, but he does not even play in those idiotic lineups.

LeBron is being forced to carry an idiotic lineup that does not even benefit his game. The guy (Westbrook) that the lineup was created to benefit does not even play in them.

Just what exactly is Vogel trying to achieve with that garbage.

They're playing small ball without any of the benefits of small ball because they have so many awful shooters in their backcourt rotation. It's completely nonsensical.
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Post#1307 » by letskissbro » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:53 am

Also I'm sorry but how Curry's 3pt record get WAY more attention than LeBron scoring the most points in nba history regular season + playoffs. Like he's 1 point away from doing it and they haven't even mentioned it on air
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Post#1308 » by falcolombardi » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:54 am

not watching the game since i dont want ti get mad at the screen

how are the lakers playing?
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Post#1309 » by Greyhound » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:58 am

LeBron is about to break the all time scoring record (regular season and playoffs) to zero fanfare.

Zero.

Compare that to the coverage of Curry’s three point record chase and the difference is stark.

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It will be interesting to see how the Kareem (regular season) all time scoring record will be covered if LeBron reaches it.
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Post#1310 » by Greyhound » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:02 am

letskissbro wrote:Also I'm sorry but how Curry's 3pt record get WAY more attention than LeBron scoring the most points in nba history regular season + playoffs. Like he's 1 point away from doing it and they haven't even mentioned it on air

Beat me to it.
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Post#1311 » by falcolombardi » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:02 am

letskissbro wrote:Also I'm sorry but how Curry's 3pt record get WAY more attention than LeBron scoring the most points in nba history regular season + playoffs. Like he's 1 point away from doing it and they haven't even mentioned it on air


actually this is because only rhe regular season record gets the main publicity

curry broke the total (playoffs and regular season) 3's record weeks before it was celebrated and nobody realized it

because for whatever reason combined PO+RS record dont get much attention, or even PO récords for that matter

is kinda odd
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Post#1312 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:06 am

falcolombardi wrote:not watching the game since i dont want ti get mad at the screen

how are the lakers playing?


They are playing the best I've seen for weeks I think.
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Post#1313 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:06 am

Greyhound wrote:LeBron is about to break the all time scoring record (regular season and playoffs) to zero fanfare.

Zero.

Compare that to the coverage of Curry’s three point record chase and the difference is stark.

———

It will be interesting to see how the Kareem (regular season) all time scoring record will be covered if LeBron reaches it.


People don't really care about the RS+Playoff records, they are not well kept.
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Post#1314 » by Greyhound » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:10 am

zimpy27 wrote:
Greyhound wrote:LeBron is about to break the all time scoring record (regular season and playoffs) to zero fanfare.

Zero.

Compare that to the coverage of Curry’s three point record chase and the difference is stark.

———

It will be interesting to see how the Kareem (regular season) all time scoring record will be covered if LeBron reaches it.


People don't really care about the RS+Playoff records, they are not well kept.

Let’s see how the other one goes.

I am willing to bet it doesn’t get “Curry type” coverage.
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Post#1315 » by falcolombardi » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:13 am

Greyhound wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Greyhound wrote:LeBron is about to break the all time scoring record (regular season and playoffs) to zero fanfare.

Zero.

Compare that to the coverage of Curry’s three point record chase and the difference is stark.

———

It will be interesting to see how the Kareem (regular season) all time scoring record will be covered if LeBron reaches it.


People don't really care about the RS+Playoff records, they are not well kept.

Let’s see how the other one goes.

I am willing to bet it doesn’t get “Curry type” coverage.


unlikely, lebron beating kareem record has been talked about almost since i can remember following the nba (aka since 2009)

nba also would be really dumb to not give it the fanfare it deserves
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Post#1316 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:17 am

falcolombardi wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
People don't really care about the RS+Playoff records, they are not well kept.

Let’s see how the other one goes.

I am willing to bet it doesn’t get “Curry type” coverage.


unlikely, lebron beating kareem record has been talked about almost since i can remember following the nba (aka since 2009)

nba also would be really dumb to not give it the fanfare it deserves


It's the greatest individual record in the game really.
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Post#1317 » by letskissbro » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:17 am

2020 AD lasted all of 5 games
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Post#1318 » by Greyhound » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:19 am

Vogel has not yet put his stamp on the game until the triple 6’3” hits the court.

Follow that up with a dose of SF/center and we’re golden.
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Post#1319 » by Greyhound » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:21 am

falcolombardi wrote:
Greyhound wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
People don't really care about the RS+Playoff records, they are not well kept.

Let’s see how the other one goes.

I am willing to bet it doesn’t get “Curry type” coverage.


unlikely, lebron beating kareem record has been talked about almost since i can remember following the nba (aka since 2009)

nba also would be really dumb to not give it the fanfare it deserves

Watch how quick they turn the conversation into Jordan would have done it if he played that many games.

Just you wait.
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Post#1320 » by homecourtloss » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:22 am

Lakers using Westbrook differently. This is the most I have seen the ball in LeBron’s as the point guard. Westbrook is thinking less out there and actually playing well. AD hasn’t done anything on offense.
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