LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

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Re: LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ? 

Post#1361 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:28 am

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They're the 9 seed right now, it's at least a little about winning games.


They aren't dropping out the play-in and they aren't making it out of it. At this point it's about showing something positive.


There's a pretty big difference between being the #8 and the #9 seed.


Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.
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Post#1362 » by trickshot » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:35 am

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Greyhound wrote:Anthony Davis cannot be trusted this game.

That blown uncontested rebound (leading to a Warriors three), missed ft and blown shot at the basket were costly.

I've said it before, but AD might be the softest dude LeBron's played with. He really checked out on his career after one bubble ring.

It was Bosh by a mile. He was AD at his softest every night. Miami's entire weakness on the glass and interior was because Bosh couldn't bang one lick. At least AD was an imposing rebounder and interior presence till he won a title
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Post#1363 » by IG2 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:38 am

Greatness wrote:If LeBron even has an average shooting game they win this one easily


If LeBron resembled a G league player in the 4th Lakers would've won the game. That was undoubtedly the worst qtr of basketball I've ever seen him play.

3 pts
1-9 FG
3 turnovers
Missed FT that ends the game

This should've been a season changing W for LA. They played their heart out. Instead....
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Post#1364 » by trickshot » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:39 am

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eminence wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
They aren't dropping out the play-in and they aren't making it out of it. At this point it's about showing something positive.


There's a pretty big difference between being the #8 and the #9 seed.


Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.

Don't underestimate the Suns. The Lakers need to avoid them at all costs. Their go-to plays in the postseason are all of the Lakers biggest weaknesses. PnRs, switch isolations on immobile defenders and lots of ball movement. I wouldn't even think a problem with anyone saying Warriors are a better matchup for the Lakers than the Suns.
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Post#1365 » by GSP » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:41 am

Brutal ending.........I had Lakers +240 really believed theyd get this one........
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Post#1366 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:45 am

donnieme wrote:
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There's a pretty big difference between being the #8 and the #9 seed.


Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.

Don't underestimate the Suns. The Lakers need to avoid them at all costs. Their go-to plays in the postseason are all of the Lakers biggest weaknesses. PnRs, switch isolations on immobile defenders and lots of ball movement. I wouldn't even think a problem with anyone saying Warriors are a better matchup for the Lakers than the Suns.


I think Lakers matchup on the Suns well. GSW feels tougher when healthy. Not underestimating Suns, just better to face them than Warriors
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Post#1367 » by GSP » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:48 am

There may have been good signs but I dunno........you HAVE to win this game if youre La you just have to. Horrible loss......theres no way theyre making it out of the 1st round if they even make playoffs I thought they had upset potential before but I dont believe this team doing ANYTHING at all anymore
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Post#1368 » by homecourtloss » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:49 am

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Greatness wrote:If LeBron even has an average shooting game they win this one easily


If LeBron resembled a G league player in the 4th Lakers would've won the game. That was undoubtedly the worst qtr of basketball I've ever seen him play.

3 pts
1-9 FG
3 turnovers
Missed FT that ends the game

This should've been a season changing W for LA. They played their heart out. Instead....


It really was the worst I’ve ever seen him play, but he’s been there and done this one loss isn’t going to deter him, especially one day otherwise did play so well despite how poorly he and to a lesser degree AD played. Russ under control, ball out of his hands could become a positive and cannot play worse than he did heading into the trade deadline.

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Post#1369 » by trickshot » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:54 am

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Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.

Don't underestimate the Suns. The Lakers need to avoid them at all costs. Their go-to plays in the postseason are all of the Lakers biggest weaknesses. PnRs, switch isolations on immobile defenders and lots of ball movement. I wouldn't even think a problem with anyone saying Warriors are a better matchup for the Lakers than the Suns.


I think Lakers matchup on the Suns well. GSW feels tougher when healthy. Not underestimating Suns, just better to face them than Warriors

Imo they don't matchup with the Suns one bit. Since the start of preseason the Suns have blown out the Lakers like 4 or 5 times already and it's not just fluke preseason results with no meaning, it's all those weaknesses repeating themselves over and over. At the risk of annoying people I say they will continue blowing out the Lakers every time they meet.
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Post#1370 » by AmIWrongDude » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:57 am

You guys would really rather play against the Suns?

Lakers get swept by the Suns imo but could be competitive with the Warriors especially if AD stops being a weenie.
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Post#1371 » by eminence » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:00 am

zimpy27 wrote:
eminence wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
They aren't dropping out the play-in and they aren't making it out of it. At this point it's about showing something positive.


There's a pretty big difference between being the #8 and the #9 seed.


Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.


This is just aggressively ignoring simple math and is kinda ridiculous. Getting a second chance is a huge deal even if the Lakers were the heavy favorite in both games (which they've shown little indication they should be over MIN at least).

Example:
LAL 70% vs MIN (7)
LAL 80% vs LAC (8 or 9)
LAL 90% vs #10

As #8 they've got ~95% chance to advance, as #9 it's ~70%. As they get less favored over the competition that gap grows.
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Post#1372 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:04 am

All this talk about what the Suns are doing in the regular season doesn't change the fact that they've proven nothing in the playoffs against a legitimate healthy opponent yet. I don't think the Lakers have a realistic chance against either team, but I still think it's crazy to prefer going up against a Warriors team with an actual postseason pedigree over a Suns team that still has a huge question mark.
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Post#1373 » by Fadeaway_J » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:10 am

zimpy27 wrote:
donnieme wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.

Don't underestimate the Suns. The Lakers need to avoid them at all costs. Their go-to plays in the postseason are all of the Lakers biggest weaknesses. PnRs, switch isolations on immobile defenders and lots of ball movement. I wouldn't even think a problem with anyone saying Warriors are a better matchup for the Lakers than the Suns.


I think Lakers matchup on the Suns well. GSW feels tougher when healthy. Not underestimating Suns, just better to face them than Warriors

The Suns will obliterate this team.
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Post#1374 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:16 am

eminence wrote:
zimpy27 wrote:
eminence wrote:
There's a pretty big difference between being the #8 and the #9 seed.


Not a huge difference seeing as 8th is Clippers. No home court difference. You just get a second chance but if Lakers can't beat the 10th seed in the West then they don't deserve to be in anyway.

Lakers would much rather be in a series against Suns than GSW I think.


This is just aggressively ignoring simple math and is kinda ridiculous. Getting a second chance is a huge deal even if the Lakers were the heavy favorite in both games (which they've shown little indication they should be over MIN at least).

Example:
LAL 70% vs MIN (7)
LAL 80% vs LAC (8 or 9)
LAL 90% vs #10

As #8 they've got ~95% chance to advance, as #9 it's ~70%. As they get less favored over the competition that gap grows.


I disagree though. Lakers should aim to play Suns in first round..

That involves being in the loser of 7 and 8, as well as winner of 9 and 10. That is likely to be Clippers vs Lakers and it's a home game for both.

You claimed its a big difference, I don't think it is for this team.
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Post#1375 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:20 am

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donnieme wrote:Don't underestimate the Suns. The Lakers need to avoid them at all costs. Their go-to plays in the postseason are all of the Lakers biggest weaknesses. PnRs, switch isolations on immobile defenders and lots of ball movement. I wouldn't even think a problem with anyone saying Warriors are a better matchup for the Lakers than the Suns.


I think Lakers matchup on the Suns well. GSW feels tougher when healthy. Not underestimating Suns, just better to face them than Warriors

The Suns will obliterate this team.


Maybe, Lakers still have a better shot against Suns than Warriors
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Post#1376 » by migya » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:23 am

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Greatness wrote:If LeBron even has an average shooting game they win this one easily


If LeBron resembled a G league player in the 4th Lakers would've won the game. That was undoubtedly the worst qtr of basketball I've ever seen him play.

3 pts
1-9 FG
3 turnovers
Missed FT that ends the game

This should've been a season changing W for LA. They played their heart out. Instead....



Yep, he's the GOAT :D

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Post#1377 » by dcstanley » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:30 am

Suns would be a sweep with maybe one competitive game. They matchup more favorably with the Warriors imo, their rotation features a lot of inexperienced players and you would hope AD would take advantage of his matchup (assuming Draymond is on Lebron).
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Post#1378 » by trickshot » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:34 am

zimpy27 wrote:
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I think Lakers matchup on the Suns well. GSW feels tougher when healthy. Not underestimating Suns, just better to face them than Warriors

The Suns will obliterate this team.


Maybe, Lakers still have a better shot against Suns than Warriors

it's a rather peculiar situation because the Warriors have owned the Suns so far and Lebron seems to have it easier against the Suns but the other Lakers collectively do not. Defending the Suns needs a particular formula of athletic individual defenders and high IQ guys. Why teams like Clippers, Bucks, Warriors have made them bleed. Despite all of this I think the Warriors are better than the Suns, it's just the Lakers have near zero of the tools to be competitive against them.
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Post#1379 » by zimpy27 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:40 am

donnieme wrote:
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Fadeaway_J wrote:The Suns will obliterate this team.


Maybe, Lakers still have a better shot against Suns than Warriors

it's a rather peculiar situation because the Warriors have owned the Suns so far and Lebron seems to have it easier against the Suns but the other Lakers collectively do not. Defending the Suns needs a particular formula of athletic individual defenders and high IQ guys. Why teams like Clippers, Bucks, Warriors have made them bleed. Despite all of this I think the Warriors are better than the Suns, it's just the Lakers have near zero of the tools to be competitive against them.


LeBron and Davis both have it easier against the Suns. The GSW defense is no joke even with Green out, Lakers play worse with Green in.

I guess we have a difference of opinion on it. I can just see Lakers definitely losing to GSW, not so sure about the Suns.
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Post#1380 » by falcolombardi » Sun Feb 13, 2022 5:58 am

migya wrote:
IG2 wrote:
Greatness wrote:If LeBron even has an average shooting game they win this one easily


If LeBron resembled a G league player in the 4th Lakers would've won the game. That was undoubtedly the worst qtr of basketball I've ever seen him play.

3 pts
1-9 FG
3 turnovers
Missed FT that ends the game

This should've been a season changing W for LA. They played their heart out. Instead....



Yep, he's the GOAT :D

Real Jordanesque :oops:


he sucked but i am confused what your point is, unless you think great players never have bad games ?

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