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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#442 » by MickeyDavis » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:43 pm

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#443 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:34 pm

For purely selfish reasons I've changed my stance on Rodgers and now fully want him back. I had forgotten that next years super bowl was here in Phoenix and he gives them a punchers chance of going. It would be fun to enjoy all the Superbowl week stuff and I'd try to find a ticket.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#444 » by M-C-G » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:48 pm

My first option would still be to trade him. Trade Adams.
My second option would be to trade him, Keep Adams.
My third option would be to keep him, which means you have to find a way to keep Adams.
My fourth option would be to let him retire / walk away for nothing as a FA.

Any of the first three would be exciting, but we have to be prepared that if we are keeping him, we will be losing a lot of dudes. We aren't rolling back a better team than we just had this year. We also need to be ready for the fact that having HFA might not actually be in our best interest, which is mind boggling to think.

As for option four, the team needs to do everything possible on their end to avoid that.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#445 » by stillgotgame » Sun Feb 13, 2022 4:55 pm

Wow, $45M a year.
Congrats Gute, on attempting to bribe him to come back. This is the prize you win when you move up to draft his replacement and the player you moved up for isn’t very good.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#446 » by PintSizedBox10 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:35 pm

If they're able to keep the roster intact paying Rodgers that much then okay I guess. But if not, then wtf is the point. This only makes sense if the FO thinks Love is a total dud.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#447 » by MoMM » Sun Feb 13, 2022 7:59 pm

It is possible to keep everyone except Z, there are some analysis like this.

As for Love, if we extend Rodgers, should we trade him? What can we get for him? Late Day-2 pick?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#448 » by Finn » Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:28 pm

stillgotgame wrote:Wow, $45M a year.
Congrats Gute, on attempting to bribe him to come back. This is the prize you win when you move up to draft his replacement and the player you moved up for isn’t very good.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#449 » by Matches Malone » Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:30 pm

Feels like just delaying the inevitable. Move heaven and earth for QB1 just for another playoff choke.

I get they don't want to bottom out, but won't this just create more problems for the franchise down the road? We could be maximizing assets to rebuild and put a plan in place around Love and if he flames out, you draft a new guy in 2023.

I realize it could all backfire, draft picks are a crapshoot and you'd be stepping into the unknown, but what's the alternative? Hope that your 38-year-old QB, sucking up all the cap room, will suddenly get over the hump?
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#450 » by Profound23 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 8:57 pm

Finn wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:Wow, $45M a year.
Congrats Gute, on attempting to bribe him to come back. This is the prize you win when you move up to draft his replacement and the player you moved up for isn’t very good.

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Actually, the opposite....you draft another QB so you don't have to pay an aging QB 45 mil per year. Rodgers was going to command that money either way.

Trade him now...don't mortgage your future.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#451 » by M-C-G » Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:36 pm

I kind of feel like maybe both sides are just positioning themselves for announcing the divorce now that I think about it. Like, 'kids, we tried to work it out, but it is best for you if we go our separate ways'
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#452 » by RRyder823 » Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:15 pm

Anyone that thinks this team is going to win a SB paying Rodgers, Adams and Bahktiri 100 million a year combined is lieing to themselves

Their best chance was the last two years. It didn't work out. It happens. Time to hit the reset button. If you think Rodgers has 4 elite years left then you can make the argument that keeping him is for the best and we can be back to competing in 2 years and we can make another push. But Rodgers has said he has zero interest in being part of a rebuild so there's that.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#453 » by ReasonablySober » Sun Feb 13, 2022 10:47 pm

Extending Rodgers is stupid.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#454 » by WRau1 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:49 am

Generally you pay the reigning b2b MVP whatever he wants.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#455 » by Treebeard » Mon Feb 14, 2022 1:13 am

My head and heart say this SB window closed on Jan 22, 2022. Pull the band-aid off and get what you can for Rogers. I don't claim to understand the gotchas of the salary cap to know if we really can trade Adams as well, but do it if you can. Move Bakhtiari next year.

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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#456 » by th87 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 6:47 am

WTF Rodgers. If winning a SB is really that important, why not sign a cheap extension? And if he's seeking $45m/yr, then I can only conclude that money is more important than a ring.

But at the same time, if you feel Rodgers gives you the best chance in the near term, you ride that wave until you can't. Future schmuture. We'll find other stuff to do on Sundays.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#457 » by sdn40 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 7:00 am

Gute's contract is up after the season. Going 3-14 with Love stinking up Lambeau may not give him the optimum bargaining position. He will get a new contract regardless. Just saying.......
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#458 » by Iheartfootball » Mon Feb 14, 2022 3:47 pm

I want to win. I remember the 80s, those teams were the laughing stock. And based on free agency and drafting well you can turn a team around quickly, but again, I have PTSD from that era.

But Rodgers, *for me*, is just so hard to root for. Entitled, pompous, but great at his craft. Separate the man from his art? Is that how it works?

I guess you go all in again if you're in the front office, otherwise, you may all lose your jobs if Love doesn't pan out and the rebuild turns into a treadmill. And as a fan, at this moment, I'm okay with either option. 1) going all-in again or 2) waiting it out, doing it the right way, whatever that is.

This isn't an easy decision. I'm glad I'm not Gute.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#459 » by Profound23 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:10 pm

Iheartfootball wrote:I want to win. I remember the 80s, those teams were the laughing stock. And based on free agency and drafting well you can turn a team around quickly, but again, I have PTSD from that era.

But Rodgers, *for me*, is just so hard to root for. Entitled, pompous, but great at his craft. Separate the man from his art? Is that how it works?

I guess you go all in again if you're in the front office, otherwise, you may all lose your jobs if Love doesn't pan out and the rebuild turns into a treadmill. And as a fan, at this moment, I'm okay with either option. 1) going all-in again or 2) waiting it out, doing it the right way, whatever that is.

This isn't an easy decision. I'm glad I'm not Gute.


I agree that it is a tough decision and he will be criticized either way.

-You trade away a HOF 4x MVP (recently 2x MVP in back to back seasons) and don't hit on the picks, the team could be bad for 10+ years

-However, if you sign Rodgers/Adams and push all these contracts into the future you get 2-3 years of "going for it" and if you come up short this team will be bad for an even longer time.
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Re: Packers 2022 Offseason Thread - Bisaccia to coach ST 

Post#460 » by TroyD92 » Mon Feb 14, 2022 4:39 pm

If you're moving on from Rodgers now is the time. Don't think the fanbase has ever been more apathetic towards Arod. Extremely underwhelming playoff performances in recent years.
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