2022 Offseason thread

[thesack12]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156018-49ers-center-named-remains-uncertain-about-long-term-future/

Alex Mack doesn't know for sure if he'll continue playing football in 2022, but the 13-year center he certainly proved throughout the 2021 season that he still has plenty of gas left in the tank at age 36.

Mack is under contract for two more seasons with the 49ers after signing a three-year deal in March of 2021, but he plans on continuing to take things year-by-year when it comes to making decisions on his career. Based on his comments Monday, it sounds like Mack feels he's in a good spot if he chooses to return.

"After year ten, I always said I was going to take it one year at a time and take the offseason, see how everything felt and kind of go from there, so that's still where I'm at," Mack said. "I think that process has worked well for me.

It sounds like Mack might be leaning towards returning, but you can't rule out retirement with him.

Regardless of his 2022 status, 9ers would be wise to bring in another center for his immediate or future replacement.

Honestly, I think 9ers need to load up heavy on the O-line this offseason.
Mack as mentioned is on retirement watch
McGlinchey is too expensive for his caliber. I doubt he makes the leaps it will require to make it worth extending him.
Brunskill and Compton are mild smelling trash. They aren't useless, but they are net negatives.
Laken Tomlinson is a free agent, likely to return but no guarantee.
Trent Williams is great but he'll be 34 going into next season, and he's starting to be nicked up regularly.
Banks and Moore have provided nothing to inspire confidence in them.

[Pattersonca65]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156018-49ers-center-named-remains-uncertain-about-long-term-future/

Alex Mack doesn't know for sure if he'll continue playing football in 2022, but the 13-year center he certainly proved throughout the 2021 season that he still has plenty of gas left in the tank at age 36.

Mack is under contract for two more seasons with the 49ers after signing a three-year deal in March of 2021, but he plans on continuing to take things year-by-year when it comes to making decisions on his career. Based on his comments Monday, it sounds like Mack feels he's in a good spot if he chooses to return.

"After year ten, I always said I was going to take it one year at a time and take the offseason, see how everything felt and kind of go from there, so that's still where I'm at," Mack said. "I think that process has worked well for me.

It sounds like Mack might be leaning towards returning, but you can't rule out retirement with him.

Regardless of his 2022 status, 9ers would be wise to bring in another center for his immediate or future replacement.

Honestly, I think 9ers need to load up heavy on the O-line this offseason.
Mack as mentioned is on retirement watch
McGlinchey is too expensive for his caliber. I doubt he makes the leaps it will require to make it worth extending him.
Brunskill and Compton are mild smelling trash. They aren't useless, but they are net negatives.
Laken Tomlinson is a free agent, likely to return but no guarantee.
Trent Williams is great but he'll be 34 going into next season, and he's starting to be nicked up regularly.
Banks and Moore have provided nothing to inspire confidence in them.

McGlinchey is a bit of a disappointment to me. I was hoping he might take a step forward this past season in pass blocking and he might have a bit but I still expect a little better from where he was drafted. In that respect, how much of a drop off was there between McGlinchey and Compton during the season? Didn't seem as much as one would expect

[CrimsonCrew]

Got to hope our young guys can make some sort of impact in McKivitz, Banks, and Moore. I don't have too much faith in McGlinchey figuring it out, and he ain't worth the fifth-year deal he'll be playing on. Oh well. I'd be looking to add one or two more guys.

[thesack12]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156018-49ers-center-named-remains-uncertain-about-long-term-future/

Alex Mack doesn't know for sure if he'll continue playing football in 2022, but the 13-year center he certainly proved throughout the 2021 season that he still has plenty of gas left in the tank at age 36.

Mack is under contract for two more seasons with the 49ers after signing a three-year deal in March of 2021, but he plans on continuing to take things year-by-year when it comes to making decisions on his career. Based on his comments Monday, it sounds like Mack feels he's in a good spot if he chooses to return.

"After year ten, I always said I was going to take it one year at a time and take the offseason, see how everything felt and kind of go from there, so that's still where I'm at," Mack said. "I think that process has worked well for me.

It sounds like Mack might be leaning towards returning, but you can't rule out retirement with him.

Regardless of his 2022 status, 9ers would be wise to bring in another center for his immediate or future replacement.

Honestly, I think 9ers need to load up heavy on the O-line this offseason.
Mack as mentioned is on retirement watch
McGlinchey is too expensive for his caliber. I doubt he makes the leaps it will require to make it worth extending him.
Brunskill and Compton are mild smelling trash. They aren't useless, but they are net negatives.
Laken Tomlinson is a free agent, likely to return but no guarantee.
Trent Williams is great but he'll be 34 going into next season, and he's starting to be nicked up regularly.
Banks and Moore have provided nothing to inspire confidence in them.

McGlinchey is a bit of a disappointment to me. I was hoping he might take a step forward this past season in pass blocking and he might have a bit but I still expect a little better from where he was drafted. In that respect, how much of a drop off was there between McGlinchey and Compton during the season? Didn't seem as much as one would expect

There wasn't really much of a drop off from McGlinchey to Compton.

Mike is a better run blocker than Compton, but they are about the same level with pass protection.

There damn sure wasn't a nearly $10 mil caliber drop off in effectiveness/production from the two of them. Which will be roughly the cost difference between the two next season.

[Samurai]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156018-49ers-center-named-remains-uncertain-about-long-term-future/

Alex Mack doesn't know for sure if he'll continue playing football in 2022, but the 13-year center he certainly proved throughout the 2021 season that he still has plenty of gas left in the tank at age 36.

Mack is under contract for two more seasons with the 49ers after signing a three-year deal in March of 2021, but he plans on continuing to take things year-by-year when it comes to making decisions on his career. Based on his comments Monday, it sounds like Mack feels he's in a good spot if he chooses to return.

"After year ten, I always said I was going to take it one year at a time and take the offseason, see how everything felt and kind of go from there, so that's still where I'm at," Mack said. "I think that process has worked well for me.

It sounds like Mack might be leaning towards returning, but you can't rule out retirement with him.

Regardless of his 2022 status, 9ers would be wise to bring in another center for his immediate or future replacement.

Honestly, I think 9ers need to load up heavy on the O-line this offseason.
Mack as mentioned is on retirement watch
McGlinchey is too expensive for his caliber. I doubt he makes the leaps it will require to make it worth extending him.
Brunskill and Compton are mild smelling trash. They aren't useless, but they are net negatives.
Laken Tomlinson is a free agent, likely to return but no guarantee.
Trent Williams is great but he'll be 34 going into next season, and he's starting to be nicked up regularly.
Banks and Moore have provided nothing to inspire confidence in them.

What about Jake Brendel? He was at least good enough for us to keep on the roster as Mack's back-up; he's likely as good or better than an unknown late round draft pick if we can get Mack or another veteran FA as the starter. I do think we need a veteran center to help out a rookie QB.

[thesack12]

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/156018-49ers-center-named-remains-uncertain-about-long-term-future/

Alex Mack doesn't know for sure if he'll continue playing football in 2022, but the 13-year center he certainly proved throughout the 2021 season that he still has plenty of gas left in the tank at age 36.

Mack is under contract for two more seasons with the 49ers after signing a three-year deal in March of 2021, but he plans on continuing to take things year-by-year when it comes to making decisions on his career. Based on his comments Monday, it sounds like Mack feels he's in a good spot if he chooses to return.

"After year ten, I always said I was going to take it one year at a time and take the offseason, see how everything felt and kind of go from there, so that's still where I'm at," Mack said. "I think that process has worked well for me.

It sounds like Mack might be leaning towards returning, but you can't rule out retirement with him.

Regardless of his 2022 status, 9ers would be wise to bring in another center for his immediate or future replacement.

Honestly, I think 9ers need to load up heavy on the O-line this offseason.
Mack as mentioned is on retirement watch
McGlinchey is too expensive for his caliber. I doubt he makes the leaps it will require to make it worth extending him.
Brunskill and Compton are mild smelling trash. They aren't useless, but they are net negatives.
Laken Tomlinson is a free agent, likely to return but no guarantee.
Trent Williams is great but he'll be 34 going into next season, and he's starting to be nicked up regularly.
Banks and Moore have provided nothing to inspire confidence in them.

What about Jake Brendel? He was at least good enough for us to keep on the roster as Mack's back-up; he's likely as good or better than an unknown late round draft pick if we can get Mack or another veteran FA as the starter. I do think we need a veteran center to help out a rookie QB.

Other than being brought back for a camp body, I don't see Brendel being in the mix.

Brendel is soon to be 30 years old and has only played a total 250 snaps since he debuted in 2016. He's only played 6 total snaps since 2018, as he was out of the league in 2018, 2019, 2020.

Although he's a restricted FA, bringing back Brendel would be scraping the bottom of the barrel. If Brendel will be the primary C next season, Lance and the 49ers are probably in trouble. Honestly, I wouldn't even want resign him to backup Mack again. I'd much prefer giving that role to a young developmental guy to groom for when Mack retires. That type of player would hold at least a shred of upside/intrigue, Brendel has none of those 2 things.

[arich35]

Wes Welker leaving to be WR coach in Miami. Seems strange

[CrimsonCrew]

Wes Welker leaving to be WR coach in Miami. Seems strange

Ugh. That's too bad. I really like Welker as the WRs coach. Maybe he thinks he'll have an avenue to become the OC in Miami, whereas it's less likely in SF. Welker also started his career in Miami, and may have stronger ties to that location (and to their lack of income tax).

[Bald Bull]

Wes Welker leaving to be WR coach in Miami. Seems strange

his family stayed behind in Florida while he was working in cali, i'm sure that played a big role in his decision.

[GS Warriors 1]

The offseason has officially begun. Of course, the talk begins with Garoppolo speculation. An Athletic piece where an "NFL exec" suggests that Washington could "justify" using their 1st round pick (#11) for Garoppolo. I'd be very surprised if he went for that pick, but that could also speak to this QB class and depends on which veteran QB's are available.

[Jikkle]

The offseason has officially begun. Of course, the talk begins with Garoppolo speculation. An Athletic piece where an "NFL exec" suggests that Washington could "justify" using their 1st round pick (#11) for Garoppolo. I'd be very surprised if he went for that pick, but that could also speak to this QB class and depends on which veteran QB's are available.

That would be nuts if they were able to land #11 pick for Jimmy G.

That would effectively mean that the Lance trade would go from them mortgaging the future to basically costing them nothing and arguably being a net positive if you consider the cap space saved by going with Lance over Jimmy G.

Going from 29 to 11 would be two 1st round picks and the 11th pick is one spot higher than we would've picked last year.

I have a really hard time seeing Washington giving up the 11th pick but if people in that building are desperate to win now I can't rule out an overpay either because the QB market is a pretty barren one this offseason.

[CrimsonCrew]

I absolutely cannot see giving up that high of a first-round pick to get Garoppolo on his contract. Granted they would certainly restructure, but if they're trading 11 for him, his agent is going to have a ton of leverage and his current cap number might be considered low. I'd love to see it happen. Jikkle, as you state, that would basically wipe out the capital we gave up for Lance, which would be amazing.

Even though I can't see it, I love the talk about it. There is going to be a market for him, and possibly even more so with Indy also reportedly in the market for a QB. I think a second is about the minimum we should be looking for, and I think there's a strong possibility we'll be looking at a second and something else of value. And QBs almost always cost more than you expect. I was shocked we got two seconds for Alex Smith, and shocked that Wentz was traded for a first-round pick (granted conditional). And maybe that's the sort of thing we end up seeing, a conditional pick based on playing time, etc. But if it's a 2023 second with the chance to become a first, I'd jump at that.

[Jikkle]

I absolutely cannot see giving up that high of a first-round pick to get Garoppolo on his contract. Granted they would certainly restructure, but if they're trading 11 for him, his agent is going to have a ton of leverage and his current cap number might be considered low. I'd love to see it happen. Jikkle, as you state, that would basically wipe out the capital we gave up for Lance, which would be amazing.

Even though I can't see it, I love the talk about it. There is going to be a market for him, and possibly even more so with Indy also reportedly in the market for a QB. I think a second is about the minimum we should be looking for, and I think there's a strong possibility we'll be looking at a second and something else of value. And QBs almost always cost more than you expect. I was shocked we got two seconds for Alex Smith, and shocked that Wentz was traded for a first-round pick (granted conditional). And maybe that's the sort of thing we end up seeing, a conditional pick based on playing time, etc. But if it's a 2023 second with the chance to become a first, I'd jump at that.

As you said QBs go for a lot more than they are actually worth and it's shaping up to be a good year to sell a QB because there will be a lot of teams that need to and have rosters to win now but don't have anything at QB.

I could see a scenario where the Steelers and Commanders offer their 2nds, forcing the Steelers to offer their 1st, and the Commanders having to decide if they want to close the deal by biting the bullet and offering up the 11th. And maybe we trick them into taking McGlinchey and his $10 million cap hit off our hands as well.

Most likely it's going to be a 2nd or 2nd that can be a conditional 1st or a 2nd and something else. Hard to imagine them getting a 1st but it's hard to imagine less than a 2nd either.

[righterwriter]

I do not think we're getting a 1st for Jimmy. I think some QB needy teams are happy trading a 2nd plus a future pick, but they don't want to give up $26M in cap room AND a 1st for him, as it is really an all-in move on a guy that there are definite questions about.

To me, Pittsburgh is the most likely candidate. They are out of conference, they are desperate for a QB that can win now, and they have enough talent to entice Jimmy to waive his no trade clause to go there.

I think we can get this year's 2nd (#52) and a 2023 conditional pick, which would become either a 2nd or a 3rd. The future pick might even be preferable, as we already have a ton of selections this year thanks to the Saleh, McDaniels, and I believe Mayhew compensatory picks.

[CrimsonCrew]

I do not think we're getting a 1st for Jimmy. I think some QB needy teams are happy trading a 2nd plus a future pick, but they don't want to give up $26M in cap room AND a 1st for him, as it is really an all-in move on a guy that there are definite questions about.

To me, Pittsburgh is the most likely candidate. They are out of conference, they are desperate for a QB that can win now, and they have enough talent to entice Jimmy to waive his no trade clause to go there.

I think we can get this year's 2nd (#52) and a 2023 conditional pick, which would become either a 2nd or a 3rd. The future pick might even be preferable, as we already have a ton of selections this year thanks to the Saleh, McDaniels, and I believe Mayhew compensatory picks.

The Steelers make a ton of sense on paper, but their GM, Kevin Colbert, has already announced that he is retiring after the draft this year. He's thinking about his legacy, and trying to seal it (not that he won't be considered one of the best regardless) by setting up the franchise for the next decade. Given that, it's pretty unlikely they'd give up a lot of value for Garoppolo. But you never know.

[CrimsonCrew]

PFF has a look at the Niners' offseason (cap situation, needs, FAs, possible cuts, etc.). Who can guess why I'm quietly weeping while reading it?

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Projected Cap Space: -$4.5M (23rd)

Notable Free Agents: G Laken Tomlinson, DI D.J. Jones, CB K’Waun Williams, CB Jason Verrett, DI Maurice Hurst, Edge Arden Key, S Jaquiski Tartt, T Tom Compton, RB Raheem Mostert

Potential Cuts: Edge Samson Ebukam (saves $6.5 million)

Team Needs: CB, iOL

A Jimmy Garoppolo trade would free up over $26 million in cap space for the 49ers. Guard Laken Tomlinson should take some of that cash, as he has been a quality performer in Kyle Shanahan’s offense with 73.6 PFF grade in 2021. After that, they have some tough decisions to make, mainly in the secondary. Slot corner K’Waun Williams and safety Jaquiski Tartt are coming off down years with sub-61.0 coverage grades, and cornerback Jason Verrett can’t stay healthy. San Francisco is one of the few spots where Casey Hayward Jr., who was among the NFL’s five most valuable cornerbacks of 2021 in Las Vegas, could thrive. Seahawks free agent corner D.J. Reed Jr. is also likely to be looking for a new home with that defense undergoing a scheme change. Reed — a top-10 graded cornerback of 2021 — would fit like a glove in San Francisco.

[Dodub]

PFF has a look at the Niners' offseason (cap situation, needs, FAs, possible cuts, etc.). Who can guess why I'm quietly weeping while reading it?

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Projected Cap Space: -$4.5M (23rd)

Notable Free Agents: G Laken Tomlinson, DI D.J. Jones, CB K’Waun Williams, CB Jason Verrett, DI Maurice Hurst, Edge Arden Key, S Jaquiski Tartt, T Tom Compton, RB Raheem Mostert

Potential Cuts: Edge Samson Ebukam (saves $6.5 million)

Team Needs: CB, iOL

A Jimmy Garoppolo trade would free up over $26 million in cap space for the 49ers. Guard Laken Tomlinson should take some of that cash, as he has been a quality performer in Kyle Shanahan’s offense with 73.6 PFF grade in 2021. After that, they have some tough decisions to make, mainly in the secondary. Slot corner K’Waun Williams and safety Jaquiski Tartt are coming off down years with sub-61.0 coverage grades, and cornerback Jason Verrett can’t stay healthy. San Francisco is one of the few spots where Casey Hayward Jr., who was among the NFL’s five most valuable cornerbacks of 2021 in Las Vegas, could thrive. Seahawks free agent corner D.J. Reed Jr. is also likely to be looking for a new home with that defense undergoing a scheme change. Reed — a top-10 graded cornerback of 2021 — would fit like a glove in San Francisco.

I’d rather they extend Ebukam to give us cap relief. See Ford will be a June 1 cut, Jimmy G will be traded and I’d bet that at least one person restructures. We will be fine with the cap.

We should definitely let Tartt and Williams walk and get younger at those positions. I’m intrigued by a guy like Denzel Ward who could be available for trade.

[CrimsonCrew]

PFF has a look at the Niners' offseason (cap situation, needs, FAs, possible cuts, etc.). Who can guess why I'm quietly weeping while reading it?

SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Projected Cap Space: -$4.5M (23rd)

Notable Free Agents: G Laken Tomlinson, DI D.J. Jones, CB K’Waun Williams, CB Jason Verrett, DI Maurice Hurst, Edge Arden Key, S Jaquiski Tartt, T Tom Compton, RB Raheem Mostert

Potential Cuts: Edge Samson Ebukam (saves $6.5 million)

Team Needs: CB, iOL

A Jimmy Garoppolo trade would free up over $26 million in cap space for the 49ers. Guard Laken Tomlinson should take some of that cash, as he has been a quality performer in Kyle Shanahan’s offense with 73.6 PFF grade in 2021. After that, they have some tough decisions to make, mainly in the secondary. Slot corner K’Waun Williams and safety Jaquiski Tartt are coming off down years with sub-61.0 coverage grades, and cornerback Jason Verrett can’t stay healthy. San Francisco is one of the few spots where Casey Hayward Jr., who was among the NFL’s five most valuable cornerbacks of 2021 in Las Vegas, could thrive. Seahawks free agent corner D.J. Reed Jr. is also likely to be looking for a new home with that defense undergoing a scheme change. Reed — a top-10 graded cornerback of 2021 — would fit like a glove in San Francisco.

I’d rather they extend Ebukam to give us cap relief. See Ford will be a June 1 cut, Jimmy G will be traded and I’d bet that at least one person restructures. We will be fine with the cap.

We should definitely let Tartt and Williams walk and get younger at those positions. I’m intrigued by a guy like Denzel Ward who could be available for trade.

Yeah, we'll see on Ebukam. He isn't worth his cap hit for this year, but it would probably cost as much to replace him. I'm optimistic they bring back Willis on the cheap. Extending Ebukam is one way to keep him around.

Spotrac has the Niners almost $3 million under the cap, Not sure if that's right or this is. I hadn't really thought about the timing of us freeing up cap space. We are in line to free up quite a bit, but Jimmy may not get moved until after the draft, if there are rumblings about guys like Rodgers and Wilson moving, or if the QB-needy teams want to wait to see how the draft shakes out. That could limit our ability to be aggressive in FA.

[Dodub]

I’m sure you guys have seen this video floating around from 49ers practice. Everyone is going crazy about it, but we have to remember that it’s practice and the DL can’t sack the QB.

What I see from this is just ridiculous ability. We all knew that Trey had a great deep arm. This video shows he has amazing ability to throw off platform like guys like Mahomes, Rodgers, Allen, Etc. It also shows ability to fit the ball into some tight windows.

Mostly what I see is comfort. He looks comfortable out there making these plays.

With an entire offseason to work with QB coaches and learn the playbook, he should be really really comfortable and dangerous by week 1.

Watch on YouTube

[Dodub]

This one has an extra Throw at the end. Who is leaking these?

Watch on YouTube