Kings @ Nets 2-14-22 7:30 PM EST

[TheNetsFan]

I don't agree.

Drummond was in a bad spot with the Lakers team last year. Didn't use him correctly.

Hes been very good with the Sixers.

All we need him to do is rebound and give us some rim protection. Will be useful against a guy like Embiid.

I don't see him closing games for us or giving a ton of minutes. But hes definitely useful.

Clearly you haven't watch Embiid vs Drummond matchups. Embiid has torched Drummond his entire career. Like comical levels.

Embiid will torch anyone we have.

You think Claxton or Aldridge would be better?

At least Drummond gives us rebounding.

Sixers also have nobody to guard KD btw.

You let Embiid get his & take everyone else out of the game. You also attack Harden's defense all game.

[Prokorov]

Clearly you haven't watch Embiid vs Drummond matchups. Embiid has torched Drummond his entire career. Like comical levels.

Embiid will torch anyone we have.

You think Claxton or Aldridge would be better?

At least Drummond gives us rebounding.

Sixers also have nobody to guard KD btw.

You let Embiid get his & take everyone else out of the game. You also attack Harden's defense all game.

I've been saying this for 2 years... everyone talks about "who does [TEAM] have who can stop embiid? but year after year we see them underachieve and fail despite Embiid dropping 30+ and 12+. I'm interested to see how he works and the team works with harden. they lost their best role shooter and reports are Harden shunned an offensive system for isolation touches. even in an ideal world i dont love Harden/Embiid. Embiid is not a pick and roll player or guy who is at his best without the ball.

[Prokorov]

My thoughts....

1) How did we ever overcome the force that is Dante Divincenzo? The guy bucks fans told us was equal to Kyrie + Harden? Amazing effort to overcome such a god like player

2) Curry was fantastic and its clear he can handle it as the pick and roll ball handler or play off ball. That should work seamlessly with Kyrie and KD who often operate better as off ball aggressive scorers.

3) I dont love Drummond. I question his sustained effort and what has always concerned me was his inability to play a role. Not to be confused with unwillingness. Like I dont think he is upset or needs to feel like a star. But he always seemed to do to much when he had the ball. That was not the case tonight. If he can find a way just play his role he could be a plus. Blake said something that had me surprised. He said he has great hands defending the pick and roll. i brushed it off as fluff, but then last night he had 2-3 deflections and a steal off it.

My father in law is a HS referee in CT for 40+ years. He officiated almost all of Drummonds high school games and is a season ticket holder for UCONN and in general huge Drummond fan. he doesnt have an NBA just follows drummond. He said his skill level is underrated. That his hands for a big and skill for a big are unique. points out he is just 26 (i think he is actually 28 but you get the idea) and still time for him to find his best niche.

Like all players i hate on before coming here (Blake, LMA, Cam Thomas) I'll give him a fair share before making judgement but im being cautiously optomistic. I dont value rebounding like.. at all but again my Father in law made a good point... "Extra possession for KD are a much higher value then extra possessions for some bum in detroit" So his rebounding may have more value here then most places.

His screens need some work, he is a big body. he could be an elite screener. he is just an ok one. In either even, its nice not to get bullied.

4) Brown looked great. Johnson looked solid. LMA looked great. When role guys are put back in roles they tend to be the best version of themselves. Having depth of actualy NBA starters goes a long way. We saw Patty become lethal the few games we had the big 3. getting wide open threes instead of off balance fade aways.

This team with the new Big 3 + Curry/Mills/Harris is going to have some stretches of white hot three point makes with the open looks. I dont think we can start it but im amped for a 5 minute stretch of Mills - Kyrie - Curry - Harris - KD.

5) This is what we should have done to sacramento last time. If nash would have just got his crap together and sat a clearly injured and disinterested harden that would have been a blowout win as well.

Glad the losing streak is over. The future looks alot less rocky and the team seems really happy since the trade. Kyrie seems in mid season form. a near road win over miami and a win to end the streak is a breath of fresh air. Seeing harden being legit injured and not signing his extension in Philly makes me feel alot better about no having him longterm here

[Prokorov]

Drummond isn't that good of a player, feel like we're getting hyped up over a solid game from him.

Blake Griffin hasn't shown much this season, mainly because his 3pt shooting has fallen off a cliff, but remember how effective he was in the Bucks series against Giannis? Did better than any of our other bigs.

And at the end of the day, he's still a high IQ player that doesn't demand the ball much. I think he'll fit much better next to a full squad than Drummond will. Drummond is a guy that you play when you don't have many options. But if KD and Ben are healthy, and Kyrie somehow comes back? Drummond becomes quite useless honestly. I mean, he couldn't cut it with AD and LeBron.

The one thing with Drummond is that he helps vs. Awful teams. They usually go smaller and dont fight much for rebounds. He may have helped turn some losses vs awful teams into wins.

Vs. top teams, I'm skeptical if he can stay on the floor. We have options

[Prokorov]

And it's not just this season. Imagine extending a 5 year contract to a moody, out of shape Harden with a bad hamstring and trying to keep him happy and engaged the whole time.

I think this is a trade for the future

I think we not only extended our championship window and restocked our war chest, but also ripped the 76ers off.

I fully expect the Sixers to implode once Harden and Embiid eventually butt heads.

PHI is definitely gambling on this trade because Harden is declining and Embiid is still just 27. If they fail by the end of next year, both Harden and Embiid are gone. They should have asked for Irving instead. Oh well.

However, I don't think this extends the championship window, just the playoff window. KD is still by far the best player. The Nets go as far as he takes them. But he is 33.

For reference, Lebron was committed to deferring to Anthony Davis when he was 35 and won his last ring. Curry is the same age as KD and having his worst year in a long time. Leaning on KD at his age is a recipe for another disaster.

Kyrie would have never been on the table. despite what some fans may prefer, the Nets front office, players, and KD all are on board with him.

Also if you have to decide between Kyrie and Harden long term, you choose Kyrie. he is 3 years younger, you don't need to worry about his conditioning, and his game is much more likely to age well. He also is more flexible playing on and off the ball.

Harden is still out and will remain out for the all-star break with a hamstring injury. It is becoming a real concern... one i brought up prior to trade rumors. everyone said he was taking/dogging it for a trade, but he was clearly slowed by injury. this just confirms that. Last year he had the hamstring injury, missed a ton of time. twice in the regular season he aggravated it causing him to miss several more games then hurting it and playing hurt on it in the playoffs.

He did no offseason work because of rehab and came in out of shape. he was clearly not himself early on and not just the rules. the burst and speed. He played himself into shape and looked good for 15 games or so... but then clearly had aggrivated it and went back into being slow and struggling.

at 33, never being in great shape, always relying on early season to play into shape, and now having a tough injury that is tough to manage, i fear his long term outlook is super risky.

I'll take any Kyrie issues over that.

[MrDollarBills]

My thoughts....

1) How did we ever overcome the force that is Dante Divincenzo? The guy bucks fans told us was equal to Kyrie + Harden? Amazing effort to overcome such a god like player

2) Curry was fantastic and its clear he can handle it as the pick and roll ball handler or play off ball. That should work seamlessly with Kyrie and KD who often operate better as off ball aggressive scorers.

3) I dont love Drummond. I question his sustained effort and what has always concerned me was his inability to play a role. Not to be confused with unwillingness. Like I dont think he is upset or needs to feel like a star. But he always seemed to do to much when he had the ball. That was not the case tonight. If he can find a way just play his role he could be a plus. Blake said something that had me surprised. He said he has great hands defending the pick and roll. i brushed it off as fluff, but then last night he had 2-3 deflections and a steal off it.

My father in law is a HS referee in CT for 40+ years. He officiated almost all of Drummonds high school games and is a season ticket holder for UCONN and in general huge Drummond fan. he doesnt have an NBA just follows drummond. He said his skill level is underrated. That his hands for a big and skill for a big are unique. points out he is just 26 (i think he is actually 28 but you get the idea) and still time for him to find his best niche.

Like all players i hate on before coming here (Blake, LMA, Cam Thomas) I'll give him a fair share before making judgement but im being cautiously optomistic. I dont value rebounding like.. at all but again my Father in law made a good point... "Extra possession for KD are a much higher value then extra possessions for some bum in detroit" So his rebounding may have more value here then most places.

His screens need some work, he is a big body. he could be an elite screener. he is just an ok one. In either even, its nice not to get bullied.

4) Brown looked great. Johnson looked solid. LMA looked great. When role guys are put back in roles they tend to be the best version of themselves. Having depth of actualy NBA starters goes a long way. We saw Patty become lethal the few games we had the big 3. getting wide open threes instead of off balance fade aways.

This team with the new Big 3 + Curry/Mills/Harris is going to have some stretches of white hot three point makes with the open looks. I dont think we can start it but im amped for a 5 minute stretch of Mills - Kyrie - Curry - Harris - KD.

5) This is what we should have done to sacramento last time. If nash would have just got his crap together and sat a clearly injured and disinterested harden that would have been a blowout win as well.

Glad the losing streak is over. The future looks alot less rocky and the team seems really happy since the trade. Kyrie seems in mid season form. a near road win over miami and a win to end the streak is a breath of fresh air. Seeing harden being legit injured and not signing his extension in Philly makes me feel alot better about no having him longterm here

Your father in law is right dude. Drummond inhaling rebounds was a huge difference maker. If you cut down giving up 2nd chance opps to good teams and give our offense extra possessions, thats how you blow teams out.

I said the Miami game was a step in the right direction, if we had AD and Seth we probably win that game.

[MrDollarBills]

Clearly you haven't watch Embiid vs Drummond matchups. Embiid has torched Drummond his entire career. Like comical levels.

Embiid will torch anyone we have.

You think Claxton or Aldridge would be better?

At least Drummond gives us rebounding.

Sixers also have nobody to guard KD btw.

You let Embiid get his & take everyone else out of the game. You also attack Harden's defense all game.

We should be putting Harden on an island versus KD and Kyrie. Every time down the floor. And when they trap, kick it out.

[Prokorov]

Embiid will torch anyone we have.

You think Claxton or Aldridge would be better?

At least Drummond gives us rebounding.

Sixers also have nobody to guard KD btw.

You let Embiid get his & take everyone else out of the game. You also attack Harden's defense all game.

We should be putting Harden on an island versus KD and Kyrie. Every time down the floor. And when they trap, kick it out.

I think Harden is ok 1 on 1. he gives up a ton on team defense. slip screens and just making him move.

[TheNetsFan]

You let Embiid get his & take everyone else out of the game. You also attack Harden's defense all game.

We should be putting Harden on an island versus KD and Kyrie. Every time down the floor. And when they trap, kick it out.

I think Harden is ok 1 on 1. he gives up a ton on team defense. slip screens and just making him move.

He's ok 1 on 1 in the post. Not so much on the perimeter.

[MrDollarBills]

We should be putting Harden on an island versus KD and Kyrie. Every time down the floor. And when they trap, kick it out.

I think Harden is ok 1 on 1. he gives up a ton on team defense. slip screens and just making him move.

He's ok 1 on 1 in the post. Not so much on the perimeter.

I don't see him doing well if he gets switched onto Kyrie or KD.

[NyCeEvO]

We should be putting Harden on an island versus KD and Kyrie. Every time down the floor. And when they trap, kick it out.

I think Harden is ok 1 on 1. he gives up a ton on team defense. slip screens and just making him move.

He's ok 1 on 1 in the post. Not so much on the perimeter.

This the exact comment I was going to make.

The Sixers will hide him. If Kyrie ever catches him on the wing and the Sixers don’t double, it’s an automatic bucket, foul, or both.