James Wiseman 2021/2022

[HiRez]

Great news that he’s moving around somewhat well. Whatever the number is on how many times Kuminga and Wiseman running into each other is, I’ll take the over.

[Scoots1994]

Great news that he’s moving around somewhat well. Whatever the number is on how many times Kuminga and Wiseman running into each other is, I’ll take the over.

On the "moving around somewhat well" ... trainer said that there was no restriction on his movement, the issue has been swelling after workouts for a while.

Next step, consecutive days with workouts, then 5 on 5, then rehab assignment, then game.

[ILOVEIT]

He's the last shoe to drop in terms of what this team is going to look like come playoffs.

I hope we see him changing some games for us defensively towards the end of the season. Having a legit 7' rim defender and rebounder is what this team needs most.

[tarantism]

He's the last shoe to drop in terms of what this team is going to look like come playoffs.

I hope we see him changing some games for us defensively towards the end of the season. Having a legit 7' rim defender and rebounder is what this team needs most.

His weight gain should help him remain physical inside which should make a huge difference. It's going to be all about where his IQ is at, and there is no way of knowing where's he's at there until he gets back into live action.

No injury should have kept him from watching all the film he can to try to mentally lock down the nuances of the game and how we play specifically.

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[Duke4life831]

He's the last shoe to drop in terms of what this team is going to look like come playoffs.

I hope we see him changing some games for us defensively towards the end of the season. Having a legit 7' rim defender and rebounder is what this team needs most.

I mean if we are expecting James Wiseman to help defensively, this team is screwed. He also isnt a rim defender. 1.6 blocks per 36 isnt all that high (Looney is at 1.3 this year) and players actually shoot better above their average against Wiseman within 6ft of the basket. Just for comparison

Wiseman last year: +0.9% above average FG% within 6ft
Looney this year: -7.7% below average FG% within 6ft

Wiseman was even a sub 10 rebounds per 36 guy last year.

Lets remember Wiseman had an On/Off of -14.7 for us last year. The team was 4 points worse on defense with him on the court. Essentially every metric showed him to be one of the worst players in the league last year from an impact standpoint.

He had no offseason workouts, no training camp, no preseason, no regular season games since April. So first of all its going to take him some time just to shake off the rust. He also still needs to get used to the speed of the NBA as well. I just dont get why anyone would expect any substantial growth from him as a player since the last time we saw him and that it would be enough for him to be getting minutes come playoff time.

I get Im lower on him than most. But even the people that are excited about his potential have to admit the chances of him coming in much improved and ready to be a rotation player by the playoffs this year is a hell of a prayer.

[whatisacenter]

He's the last shoe to drop in terms of what this team is going to look like come playoffs.

I hope we see him changing some games for us defensively towards the end of the season. Having a legit 7' rim defender and rebounder is what this team needs most.

I mean if we are expecting James Wiseman to help defensively, this team is screwed. He also isnt a rim defender. 1.6 blocks per 36 isnt all that high (Looney is at 1.3 this year) and players actually shoot better above their average against Wiseman within 6ft of the basket. Just for comparison

Wiseman last year: +0.9% above average FG% within 6ft
Looney this year: -7.7% below average FG% within 6ft

Wiseman was even a sub 10 rebounds per 36 guy last year.

Lets remember Wiseman had an On/Off of -14.7 for us last year. The team was 4 points worse on defense with him on the court. Essentially every metric showed him to be one of the worst players in the league last year from an impact standpoint.

He had no offseason workouts, no training camp, no preseason, no regular season games since April. So first of all its going to take him some time just to shake off the rust. He also still needs to get used to the speed of the NBA as well. I just dont get why anyone would expect any substantial growth from him as a player since the last time we saw him and that it would be enough for him to be getting minutes come playoff time.

I get Im lower on him than most. But even the people that are excited about his potential have to admit the chances of him coming in much improved and ready to be a rotation player by the playoffs this year is a hell of a prayer.

time will tell but you talk like he will have arrested development and show zero improvement after he has been working with the teams new development coaches this entire time. Yes, he will need to get reps to improve, but if he can just play without having to think too much I believe he will be able to help the team on both sides of the floor.

[whatisacenter]

Just heard Bob Myers on the radio say that Wiseman is going to scrimmage 5 on 5 today. Big step!

[cpower]

He's the last shoe to drop in terms of what this team is going to look like come playoffs.

I hope we see him changing some games for us defensively towards the end of the season. Having a legit 7' rim defender and rebounder is what this team needs most.

I mean if we are expecting James Wiseman to help defensively, this team is screwed. He also isnt a rim defender. 1.6 blocks per 36 isnt all that high (Looney is at 1.3 this year) and players actually shoot better above their average against Wiseman within 6ft of the basket. Just for comparison

Wiseman last year: +0.9% above average FG% within 6ft
Looney this year: -7.7% below average FG% within 6ft

Wiseman was even a sub 10 rebounds per 36 guy last year.

Lets remember Wiseman had an On/Off of -14.7 for us last year. The team was 4 points worse on defense with him on the court. Essentially every metric showed him to be one of the worst players in the league last year from an impact standpoint.

He had no offseason workouts, no training camp, no preseason, no regular season games since April. So first of all its going to take him some time just to shake off the rust. He also still needs to get used to the speed of the NBA as well. I just dont get why anyone would expect any substantial growth from him as a player since the last time we saw him and that it would be enough for him to be getting minutes come playoff time.

I get Im lower on him than most. But even the people that are excited about his potential have to admit the chances of him coming in much improved and ready to be a rotation player by the playoffs this year is a hell of a prayer.

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

[xdrta+]

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

What major changes? Play him instead of Bjelica. Sounds like a minor change to me.

[whatisacenter]

He's the last shoe to drop in terms of what this team is going to look like come playoffs.

I hope we see him changing some games for us defensively towards the end of the season. Having a legit 7' rim defender and rebounder is what this team needs most.

I mean if we are expecting James Wiseman to help defensively, this team is screwed. He also isnt a rim defender. 1.6 blocks per 36 isnt all that high (Looney is at 1.3 this year) and players actually shoot better above their average against Wiseman within 6ft of the basket. Just for comparison

Wiseman last year: +0.9% above average FG% within 6ft
Looney this year: -7.7% below average FG% within 6ft

Wiseman was even a sub 10 rebounds per 36 guy last year.

Lets remember Wiseman had an On/Off of -14.7 for us last year. The team was 4 points worse on defense with him on the court. Essentially every metric showed him to be one of the worst players in the league last year from an impact standpoint.

He had no offseason workouts, no training camp, no preseason, no regular season games since April. So first of all its going to take him some time just to shake off the rust. He also still needs to get used to the speed of the NBA as well. I just dont get why anyone would expect any substantial growth from him as a player since the last time we saw him and that it would be enough for him to be getting minutes come playoff time.

I get Im lower on him than most. But even the people that are excited about his potential have to admit the chances of him coming in much improved and ready to be a rotation player by the playoffs this year is a hell of a prayer.

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

I don't think there will be much time needed to get Draymond back into the fold. Wiseman will need reps to get in game shape as soon as possible and hopefully the coaching staff has a simplified game plan for him similar to how they have worked in Kuminga. If the Warriors keep Wiseman out until next season then they are depending on Belly to play an important role and I am not liking what I have seen from him since his impressive opening night.

[Samurai]

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

I disagree. There is enough time left this season for him to work himself into shape and see if he can help in the playoffs or not. Looney will continue to start so there is no impact to the starting lineup. Giving him Bjelly's minutes, particularly given how rough Bjelly has looked recently, is hardly a major shake-up; if anything it could improve the team. Pretty sure even an out-of-shape Wiseman can give us more than the 0.8 blocks/game (per 36) that Bjelly is providing. And while Wiseman "only" made 32% of his 3's last season, how does that compare to Bjelly's 20.5% on 3's in 2022? The point is that it would be extremely difficult for Wiseman to play any worse than what we are getting from Bjelly in 2022 and very likely to be better - we just don't know if it will be a little bit better or much better. And the undeniable fact is that regardless of how he plays, Wiseman will still be 7-feet tall. Bjelly would have to play in high heels to match that; and high heels would really wreak havoc on the maintenance of the wooden court!

[cpower]

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

What major changes? Play him instead of Bjelica. Sounds like a minor change to me.

his poss per 100 is a lot higher than bbelly (21 to 16) so essentially he will take shots away from other players. That is going to be a major adjustment from offense standpoint

[xdrta+]

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

What major changes? Play him instead of Bjelica. Sounds like a minor change to me.

his poss per 100 is a lot higher than bbelly (21 to 16) so essentially he will take shots away from other players. That is going to be a major adjustment from offense standpoint

You have no idea what he will look like this season. It's a different team than last season, so his stats from last year mean nothing.

[tarantism]

Just heard Bob Myers on the radio say that Wiseman is going to scrimmage 5 on 5 today. Big step!

This is really good news! I wonder if they are hoping to get him back shortly after the all star break.

I wish there was video of the scrimmage. I'm anxious to see how he looks.

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[Samurai]

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

What major changes? Play him instead of Bjelica. Sounds like a minor change to me.

his poss per 100 is a lot higher than bbelly (21 to 16) so essentially he will take shots away from other players. That is going to be a major adjustment from offense standpoint

I don't believe this is true. Remember that Kerr had already stated that he felt he didn't optimize Wiseman to begin the season. He said he tried to rush his development and have him do too many things. Around the beginning of April, Kerr said he tried to simplify things for him - use him much more in pick-and-rolls or in the dunker's spot - and avoid giving him the ball at the 3-point line and expect him to create something. While Kerr said we only got to see this version of Wiseman for 4 or 5 games before he got hurt, this would be the blueprint for him this season and Kerr felt he was a much improved player in those 4-5 games. In July, Kerr said he wants Wiseman to emulate Ayton's game; Ayton rarely shoots 3's unless he is WIDE open and typically only takes high percentage shots (81% of his FGA's are within 10 feet). And remember that we brought in Milojevic primarily to assist Wiseman (and Looney, who frankly seems much improved over last season). So if we are looking at what we might expect from Wiseman going forward (and obviously NOT what he was at the beginning of last season prior to the simplification process), what was Wiseman's usage and efficiency in the 4-5 games before his injury and how does that compare to the current version of Bjelly? If you are going to make that comparison, at least try to make it an apples-to-apples comparison.

[GSWFan1994]

Hopefully he starts playing in real games until the start of March.

Tarantism: check this YT channel for Warriors' updates (I think you may already know about it, but just in case).

[tarantism]

Hopefully he starts playing in real games until the start of March.

Tarantism: check this YT channel for Warriors' updates (I think you may already know about it, but just in case).

Thanks! I've come across it before but I don't check it regularly.

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[HiRez]

Tell him he can take 1 jumpshot for every 3 rebounds or every block or every assist he gets. Other than that only dunks and layups are allowed. Have an assistant hang an orange flag on a chair so he can see when he's eligible to take a jumper.

[wco81]

Tell him he can take 1 jumpshot for every 3 rebounds or every block or every assist he gets. Other than that only dunks and layups are allowed. Have an assistant hang an orange flag on a chair so he can see when he's eligible to take a jumper.

My recollection was that just before he was injured, he was playing that way, more playing around the paint and if they got a loose ball, he was finishing it, unlike Looney.

[GSWFan1994]

i think he should return next season. There is no time to get him into any rotations without major changing to existing lineups, and we have not even integrated Draymond into the lineups yet.

What major changes? Play him instead of Bjelica. Sounds like a minor change to me.

his poss per 100 is a lot higher than bbelly (21 to 16) so essentially he will take shots away from other players. That is going to be a major adjustment from offense standpoint

If being 25 years old is being "old" for you, then "last season" feels like an eternity ago.