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The GSW of Curry, Draymond, Klay and KD got blow out by 20+ in their hirst game against the lottery Lakers
It's obvious KD is a low character guy after leaving Westbrook and those GSW are never going to win again.
.....oh wait
It's obvious KD is a low character guy after leaving Westbrook and those GSW are never going to win again.
.....oh wait
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Lol Harden has poisoned the team culture in 48 hours? God damn, the Embiid/Harden era is gonna be so annoying.
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Ferry Avenue wrote:DHM wrote:Ferry Avenue wrote:There is nothing delusional whatsoever about it. Harden is low-character, the team will likely have a culture insufficient for a championship with him as one of its centerpieces, and the game last night was highly consistent with that notion, as it featured a performance about 5 standard deviations below the team's norm with his being a part of it for the first time.
Got it all figured out after one game huh? Lol
Do you know what a fool you are making out of yourself?
Get back to work if you have a job. Lll
I know I'm talking to people who desperately want to see this team turn a corner toward a championship with Harden's arrival. That I know.
So you got it all figured out after 1 game where Harden didn’t play huh?? Lol
Do understand how stupid you sound?
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I’m at fault a glass half full guy with the Sixers but this is either a troll or just plain ignorant.Jailblazers7 wrote:Lol Harden has poisoned the team culture in 48 hours? God damn, the Embiid/Harden era is gonna be so annoying.
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Jailblazers7 wrote:Lol Harden has poisoned the team culture in 48 hours? God damn, the Embiid/Harden era is gonna be so annoying.
I'm starting to miss the Australian Simmons stans
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In case someone want to hear more from Harden
Doesn't say nothing too different from what he said in the conference too.
Millsap kind of let slip that the situation in Brooklyn was bad, also says that Embiid is the best player in the nba
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The hell is going on in here
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DHM wrote:Ferry Avenue wrote:DHM wrote:
Got it all figured out after one game huh? Lol
Do you know what a fool you are making out of yourself?
Get back to work if you have a job. Lll
I know I'm talking to people who desperately want to see this team turn a corner toward a championship with Harden's arrival. That I know.
So you got it all figured out after 1 game where Harden didn’t play huh?? Lol
Do understand how stupid you sound?
Had it figured out before they traded for him. The guy is a team cancer. Fans of the teams he's been on would agree. Fans of the team he's on now wouldn't, because they desperately want to win with him.
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I thought everyone was miserable because of the Simmons thing. Turns out, you're just miserable.
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Ferry Avenue wrote:The nature and timing of the loss last night doesn't augur well for this team's success with Harden. You have to wonder how a team that finally unburdened itself of the Simmons drama and acquired one of the best players in the league could go out and be so thoroughly dominated with that player watching on the sidelines as part of the team for the first time. I think that speaks to the fact that Harden isn't really a winner and doesn't contribute to creating a winning culture on the teams he plays for. Consequently it's easy to go out and lay an egg with Harden watching -- playing in that way isn't inconsistent with the team culture Harden helps create. They'll likely have no better character with him on the floor either. They'll certainly play better, but they won't have a winning culture or a winning edge against the best teams in the league, teams that do have that culture and that edge.
Hall of Fame take here. My goodness.
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eyeatoma wrote:?t=zzA18CSZ-v9I1_f43GpAiA&s=19
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I’m really pleasantly surprised by Harden’s condition in these clips. He looks slim and light on his feet.
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a Dolphins fan setting the bar for what a "winning Culture" is...
wow
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Ferry Avenue wrote:mjkvol wrote:Ferry Avenue wrote:The nature and timing of the loss last night doesn't augur well for this team's success with Harden. You have to wonder how a team that finally unburdened itself of the Simmons drama and acquired one of the best players in the league could go out and be so thoroughly dominated with that player watching on the sidelines as part of the team for the first time. I think that speaks to the fact that Harden isn't really a winner and doesn't contribute to creating a winning culture on the teams he plays for. Consequently it's easy to go out and lay an egg with Harden watching -- playing in that way isn't inconsistent with the team culture Harden helps create. They'll likely have no better character with him on the floor either. They'll certainly play better, but they won't have a winning culture or a winning edge against the best teams in the league, teams that do have that culture and that edge.
Very well done, but not very imaginative. This has to be right out of Trolling 101.
I don't troll. I have better things to do. Go back and look through my post history. I predicted about mid-season last year that this team would lose in the playoffs because of Ben Simmons, that his lackluster effort would undermine the team and that opposing teams would foul him on purpose and put him on the FT line where he would lose games. Some folks thought I was "trolling" then as well -- not so of course.
That doesn't mean I'm always right about everything. But I'll bet I have my finger on this team's pulse far better than the average person.
You predicted? Gee, I wonder where you might have seen these losses before? In previous playoffs with Simmons?
Cmon lol.
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If Harden is such a cancer, how come the teams he's on always win a lot of games and get a lot better and when he leaves get worse?
People said the same thing about Jimmy Butler, and it isn't based on reality or data.
People said the same thing about Jimmy Butler, and it isn't based on reality or data.
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Lol @ the trolls. Boston made like 26 3s last night. That crap doesn't happen often. They literally tied their franchise record. Troll on something real not some lucky shooting night
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blargh wrote:eyeatoma wrote:?t=zzA18CSZ-v9I1_f43GpAiA&s=19
?t=TNmnXUh_mh11wXje_Qzjlg&s=19
Loving the vibes.
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I’m really pleasantly surprised by Harden’s condition in these clips. He looks slim and light on his feet.
Thinking the same thing looks good
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Ferry Avenue wrote:DHM wrote:Ferry Avenue wrote:I know I'm talking to people who desperately want to see this team turn a corner toward a championship with Harden's arrival. That I know.
So you got it all figured out after 1 game where Harden didn’t play huh?? Lol
Do understand how stupid you sound?
Had it figured out before they traded for him. The guy is a team cancer. Fans of the teams he's been on would agree. Fans of the team he's on now wouldn't, because they desperately want to win with him.
That's a bold statement. I have been a Rockets fan for 20 years and still am. And I disagree. Majority of the Rox fans turned sour on him because he kind of left on bad terms. But if he were available today, they would welcome him back with open arms. The man is not a team cancer, never has been. Don't let the media narratives fool you.
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Some people always think they know what it takes to win, and you know what? They're right... until they're not. As zaz102 aptly wrote:
So most of the time if you predict that this or player won’t win you’re gonna be right, because only one team wins per year and many great players never play on a title team. I can just see someone trashing John Stockton and Karl Malone for being weak or soft or low character because, as the critic predicted would happen, they never won rings.
Ferry Avenue's claims that Harden's "low character" will block his teams from titles, and that last night’s blowout shows Harden's influence already at work, remind me of how some people used to talk about Lebron before he'd won: he was too selfish, or insecure, or not sufficiently serious. Or how they used to talk about MJ before he won.
I remember some of the Bulls' board conversations circa 2012 when Lebron and Dwight were dancing pre-ASG and pre-ACL-tear Derrick Rose, who was super-serious, stood back and looked uncomfortable. We loved Rose—I still love the guy—and some people looked for any reason to claim that Lebron’s previous lack of rings could be explained by some factor that would predict his future lack of rings. I just found this Feb. 2012 forum page, not from RealGM, which has a couple of classic quotes:
"I've always said the day lebron stops caring what people think is when he will win."
"Lebron is a egocentric a**** who needs to tighten up, get a damn ring then come back and gloat. He is still a newbie and he is feeling himself too much he won't get far with that attitude."
And of course this was just months before Lebron would win his first ring, prior to doing it in three other cities.
Those critics had deep insight into what makes a winner because-- in the instances that they could remember-- the teams that won didn’t, as far as the critic knew, have key players who were exactly like the player they were now criticizing.
They were right... until they weren’t.
If anything, I’m amazed at how much humility Sixers fans have shown in these last few pages, how tempered the expectations and predictions have been, presumably because experience is a harsh teacher.
. Almost everyone is acknowledging that, yes, maybe Harden won't lead to a title here, but pointing out that that can’t be known from last night’s blowout without Harden or from Harden’s alleged “low character.” But the original critic still pretends to have the “pulse” of the team—knowing, of course, that he has an 80-85% chance of being able to claim in a few years that his theory has been vindicated, because that's the probability that ANY top team won't win in the next few years.
Oh well. Probably should have left it at my original "haters gonna hate" meme response. Sometimes a picture is worth not 1000 words but only 3, and yet those 3 can be enough.
zaz102 wrote:#1: winning a championship is not easy even with great players.
So most of the time if you predict that this or player won’t win you’re gonna be right, because only one team wins per year and many great players never play on a title team. I can just see someone trashing John Stockton and Karl Malone for being weak or soft or low character because, as the critic predicted would happen, they never won rings.
Ferry Avenue's claims that Harden's "low character" will block his teams from titles, and that last night’s blowout shows Harden's influence already at work, remind me of how some people used to talk about Lebron before he'd won: he was too selfish, or insecure, or not sufficiently serious. Or how they used to talk about MJ before he won.
I remember some of the Bulls' board conversations circa 2012 when Lebron and Dwight were dancing pre-ASG and pre-ACL-tear Derrick Rose, who was super-serious, stood back and looked uncomfortable. We loved Rose—I still love the guy—and some people looked for any reason to claim that Lebron’s previous lack of rings could be explained by some factor that would predict his future lack of rings. I just found this Feb. 2012 forum page, not from RealGM, which has a couple of classic quotes:
"I've always said the day lebron stops caring what people think is when he will win."
"Lebron is a egocentric a**** who needs to tighten up, get a damn ring then come back and gloat. He is still a newbie and he is feeling himself too much he won't get far with that attitude."
And of course this was just months before Lebron would win his first ring, prior to doing it in three other cities.
Those critics had deep insight into what makes a winner because-- in the instances that they could remember-- the teams that won didn’t, as far as the critic knew, have key players who were exactly like the player they were now criticizing.
They were right... until they weren’t.
If anything, I’m amazed at how much humility Sixers fans have shown in these last few pages, how tempered the expectations and predictions have been, presumably because experience is a harsh teacher.
Oh well. Probably should have left it at my original "haters gonna hate" meme response. Sometimes a picture is worth not 1000 words but only 3, and yet those 3 can be enough.
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Ben wrote:Some people always think they know what it takes to win, and you know what? They're right... until they're not. As zaz102 aptly wrote:zaz102 wrote:#1: winning a championship is not easy even with great players.
So most of the time if you predict that this or player won’t win you’re gonna be right, because only one team wins per year and many great players never play on a title team. I can just see someone trashing John Stockton and Karl Malone for being weak or soft or low character because, as the critic predicted would happen, they never won rings.
Ferry Avenue's claims that Harden's "low character" will block his teams from titles, and that last night’s blowout shows Harden's influence already at work, remind me of how some people used to talk about Lebron before he'd won: he was too selfish, or insecure, or not sufficiently serious. Or how they used to talk about MJ before he won.
I remember some of the Bulls' board conversations circa 2012 when Lebron and Dwight were dancing pre-ASG and pre-ACL-tear Derrick Rose, who was super-serious, stood back and looked uncomfortable. We loved Rose—I still love the guy—and some people looked for any reason to claim that Lebron’s previous lack of rings could be explained by some factor that would predict his future lack of rings. I just found this Feb. 2012 forum page, not from RealGM, which has a couple of classic quotes:
"I've always said the day lebron stops caring what people think is when he will win."
"Lebron is a egocentric a**** who needs to tighten up, get a damn ring then come back and gloat. He is still a newbie and he is feeling himself too much he won't get far with that attitude."
And of course this was just months before Lebron would win his first ring, prior to doing it in three other cities.
Those critics had deep insight into what makes a winner because-- in the instances that they could remember-- the teams that won didn’t, as far as the critic knew, have key players who were exactly like the player they were now criticizing.
They were right... until they weren’t.
If anything, I’m amazed at how much humility Sixers fans have shown in these last few pages, how tempered the expectations and predictions have been, presumably because experience is a harsh teacher.. Almost everyone is acknowledging that, yes, maybe Harden won't lead to a title here, but pointing out that that can’t be known from last night’s blowout without Harden or from Harden’s alleged “low character.” But the original critic still pretends to have the “pulse” of the team—knowing, of course, that he has an 80-85% chance of being able to claim in a few years that his theory has been vindicated, because that's the probability that ANY top team won't win in the next few years.
Oh well. Probably should have left it at my original "haters gonna hate" meme response. Sometimes a picture is worth not 1000 words but only 3, and yet those 3 can be enough.
The prediction isn't only that they won't win a championship -- it's that they won't perform well in the playoffs against the best teams in the league and won't even advance to the championship. In other words, they won't do any more than they've done in recent years, even with Harden. This team won't have the mettle to distinguish itself from the Heat or the Bucks, and they certainly wouldn't have a chance against Phoenix or Golden State.
Harden may be a supremely physically talented player, but the dog this team needs to win at that level he is not, and the players on the team know it.
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Stanford wrote:The hell is going on in here
A guy with his finger on the pulse of the Sixers is letting us know that the team has already become dysfunctional due to Harden's mere presence at one game.
Other than that, business as usual.
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