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Post#221 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:31 am

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therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.

Thibs gave the game away by sitting Quickly in the 4th quarter. Had he sat down Randle and Founier, the Nets lose by double digits easy. Nash had nothing to do with this win


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Post#222 » by therealbig3 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:32 am

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therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.


How about start Cam with Mills and Curry to begin the game?

People are upset because of that first half. Nash rode the hot hand and i credit him but come on. He played into Thibs hands in the first half by starting three non shooters. It's just erratic


But you can't only point out the bad and crucify him, if you're not prepared to give him his due credit when he DOES make adjustments and what turn out to be game winning decisions.

And I mean, he's trying different lineups and players out with what he's got. He doesn't really have a lot of options. He took a risk, it didn't work, we got our doors blown off in the first half. He made adjustments, recognized weaknesses in the Knicks defense, and then took advantage of it relentlessly.

And I mean, if you're starting Cam with Mills and Curry...that's a combo that could have easily led to a disastrous defensive start and still have the Knicks up huge. And people would criticize that too, and say it was obvious that we couldn't defend anyone with those 3 together.

The criticisms are erratic imo. As in, Nash is never gonna have a perfect lineup out there until we have a full squad again, but people are gonna keep acting like there's a secret combination that he's purposely ignoring. It doesn't make sense to me, to keep on blaming him for everything that goes wrong. And then act like he doesn't exist when those issues get fixed in game and the team ends up winning.
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Post#223 » by Shark » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:32 am

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therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.


How about start Cam with Mills and Curry to begin the game?

People are upset because of that first half. Nash rode the hot hand and i credit him but come on. He played into Thibs hands in the first half by starting three non shooters. It's just erratic

And it took so long for Nash to make the adjustment. Against a better team we don't make that comeback and all we come away with is a morale victory.
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Post#224 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:32 am

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Cam did tonight what Harden wasn't.

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Post#225 » by Stone » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:32 am

It was Cams big night but a few of our guys that deserve an honorable mention tonight...

James Johnson- some gritty D and he shot the ball well....Same for Blake and LMA

Of course Bruce and Patty.....I was concerned with the small line up to close it out but it really worked out well.

Can't forget our two newb's Seth and Drumond. I'm really excited having both these guys. Drummond presence in the paint, the rebounds, the screens...And another deadly sniper in Seth. We don't win this one tonight without these two.
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Post#227 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:34 am

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therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.


How about start Cam with Mills and Curry to begin the game?

People are upset because of that first half. Nash rode the hot hand and i credit him but come on. He played into Thibs hands in the first half by starting three non shooters. It's just erratic


But you can't only point out the bad and crucify him, if you're not prepared to give him his due credit when he DOES make adjustments and what turn out to be game winning decisions.

And I mean, he's trying different lineups and players out with what he's got. He doesn't really have a lot of options. He took a risk, it didn't work, we got our doors blown off in the first half. He made adjustments, recognized weaknesses in the Knicks defense, and then took advantage of it relentlessly.

And I mean, if you're starting Cam with Mills and Curry...that's a combo that could have easily led to a disastrous defensive start and still have the Knicks up huge. And people would criticize that too, and say it was obvious that we couldn't defend anyone with those 3 together.

The criticisms are erratic imo. As in, Nash is never gonna have a perfect lineup out there until we have a full squad again, but people are gonna keep acting like there's a secret combination that he's purposely ignoring. It doesn't make sense to me, to keep on blaming him for everything that goes wrong. And then act like he doesn't exist when those issues get fixed in game and the team ends up winning.


Yeah but the defense was bad with that starting group plus the fact that we made it easy for them defensively.

It's whatever. I credit Nash for sticking with Cam. But that first half was horrific
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Post#228 » by Paradise » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:35 am

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Post#230 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:42 am

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therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.


How about start Cam with Mills and Curry to begin the game?

People are upset because of that first half. Nash rode the hot hand and i credit him but come on. He played into Thibs hands in the first half by starting three non shooters. It's just erratic
Cam started the game 1-9 from the floor. We only have two genuine 3pt shooters on this roster right now: Patty and Seth. But they're defensively subpar and small, starting Cam with them gives us one of the worst defensive units. Cam did brilliantly in the 4th but this was a team win, Bruce Brown hustle at the end was a huge play.


I'm not saying it wasnt a team win. But why did Nash start the game with a five that wasn't going to generate offense?
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Post#231 » by 3pt_chucker » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:48 am

therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.


I'm definitely a loud critic. He 100% coached a good 2nd half. Props to him. Wish he adjusted earlier but it's fine if he did it at half time. I don't think I'll ever like his rotations but

Players have been playing hard for him so can't complain about that either.
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Post#232 » by Karate Diop » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:49 am

That was almost really bad... But instead it ended up being really good. Knicks fans are just demoralized right now :lol:

The team also seems a lot happier in the post Harden era... I wonder if the rumors that nobody likes him were true...
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Post#233 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:51 am

Everyone go to the Knicks forum and start and 1'ng posts in their post game threads those dudes are depressed af right now
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Post#234 » by _Und3r][D4wg_ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:52 am

Despite getting blocked badly twice, Cam's confidence never wavered. He's one of those shameless gunners who's never taken a shot that they didn't like... And for a shooter, confidence counts for a whole lot.

Having MSG rocking in the 4th made the comeback win against the Knicks even much more satisfying than usual. :lol:

Let's enjoy the W, guys. No need for the board to devolve into further shambles after snapping out of an 11-game free-fall with back-to-back wins. ;)

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Post#235 » by Marvin Martian » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:58 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:As I MUST say every time people write us off and crucify Nash for everything whenever we go down big but then make a big comeback to steal the game later...what do we think about Nash now? Does he get zero credit for erasing a 28 point lead with a severely depleted roster? Or only the blame for going down 28 in the first place?

I mean, how many head coaches trust a rookie's hot hand in crunch time, over a proven vet like Curry? Want to talk about adjustments, how about recognizing how the Knicks were defending Cam Thomas on the high PnR, keeping Aldridge in the game so that we have another great shooter that Cam could get the ball to in case he got trapped, and then just spamming that play over and over again in the 4th so that either Cam or Aldridge could make a big bucket, since the Knicks couldn't stop it to save their lives? How about trusting Aldridge so much when Drummond had given us such a big spark in the 3rd quarter, and it turning out to be the right call?

But nah, everything bad is his fault, everything good has nothing to do with him. At least that's the narrative the board runs with every single game.

Thibs gave the game away by sitting Quickly in the 4th quarter. Had he sat down Randle and Founier, the Nets lose by double digits easy. Nash had nothing to do with this win


Bruh what team do you root for? You smell like an opp


The Nets. Being objective is not being an opp. There is a difference between winning a game and giving it away. Great win but let's not pretend that Thibs didn't help. The Knicks suck for a reason.
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Post#236 » by therealbig3 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 3:59 am

You know, if you take out the 11 game losing streak, we've actually been really good this season...

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Post#237 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:01 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
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Marvin Martian wrote:Thibs gave the game away by sitting Quickly in the 4th quarter. Had he sat down Randle and Founier, the Nets lose by double digits easy. Nash had nothing to do with this win


Bruh what team do you root for? You smell like an opp


The Nets. Being objective is not being an opp. There is a difference between winning a game and giving it away. Great win but let's not pretend that Thibs didn't help. The Knicks suck for a reason.


Just checking. We've had a lot of people shuffling in and out.

Either way, Cam creating offense for LMA and Seth based on the attention he was drawing was a huge development
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Post#238 » by DarkXaero » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:05 am

MrDollarBills wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
How about start Cam with Mills and Curry to begin the game?

People are upset because of that first half. Nash rode the hot hand and i credit him but come on. He played into Thibs hands in the first half by starting three non shooters. It's just erratic
Cam started the game 1-9 from the floor. We only have two genuine 3pt shooters on this roster right now: Patty and Seth. But they're defensively subpar and small, starting Cam with them gives us one of the worst defensive units. Cam did brilliantly in the 4th but this was a team win, Bruce Brown hustle at the end was a huge play.


I'm not saying it wasnt a team win. But why did Nash start the game with a five that wasn't going to generate offense?
It did generate offense, that same unit cut the Knicks big lead at the start of 2nd half. At the start of the game, we were missing wide open jumpers and Knicks defense was also doing a good job of taking away space from our shooting threats. But we adjusted in the 2nd half, made better reads out of the blitz, and finally started knocking down shots.
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Post#239 » by gigantes » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:06 am

Marvin Martian wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
Marvin Martian wrote:Thibs gave the game away by sitting Quickly in the 4th quarter. Had he sat down Randle and Founier, the Nets lose by double digits easy. Nash had nothing to do with this win

Bruh what team do you root for? You smell like an opp

The Nets. Being objective is not being an opp. There is a difference between winning a game and giving it away. Great win but let's not pretend that Thibs didn't help. The Knicks suck for a reason.

Go smell yourself.

The Nets have been straight through crazytown the last month or so, and with KD & Simmons coming back soon, things are looking nicely.

So weird to be kvetching about this or that, just as our rookies add on the count.
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