LeBron James 2021-22 Regular Season Thread - Part ?

[thebigbird]

Man I wonder if we are actually better off moving AD

I don't think it would happen, but I wonder

Realistically not sure if we can make this team a contender

Wasted assets (1st for Dennis, 1st in the Russ deal)

Let AC go for no reason

Still paying for Deng

What can we do this summer?

Feels like we need a ton of underrated and undervalued guys with real positive impact. Not just big names

Kenrich Williams would have been nice for this year and next

I think they definitely should consider it. AD’s damaged goods, sorry to say. I think his best years are pretty clearly behind him. This is his injury history over the past year. Rarely do players fare better injury wise post 30. Sell high on AD while you still can. Either that or LeBron should try to leave LA. He should’ve kept his Cleveland approach to contracts.

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[zimpy27]

Man I wonder if we are actually better off moving AD

I don't think it would happen, but I wonder

Realistically not sure if we can make this team a contender

Wasted assets (1st for Dennis, 1st in the Russ deal)

Let AC go for no reason

Still paying for Deng

What can we do this summer?

Feels like we need a ton of underrated and undervalued guys with real positive impact. Not just big names

Kenrich Williams would have been nice for this year and next

They would be. Davis is not the same guy since the achilles injury. I don't think he can make the same impact on the game anymore.

Trading Davis is the best path forward but it won't happen.

Davis+THT+FRP(via Lakers) to Hornets
Westbrook+4 FRPs(via Hornets) to Pacers
Rozier+Hayward+Brogdon+Turner to Lakers

Rozier, Brogdon, Hayward, LeBron, Turner -- Nunn, Monk, Johnson, Ariza, Melo

That's your ideal LeBron team, a team that is far better than this existing one.

[falcolombardi]

Man I wonder if we are actually better off moving AD

I don't think it would happen, but I wonder

Realistically not sure if we can make this team a contender

Wasted assets (1st for Dennis, 1st in the Russ deal)

Let AC go for no reason

Still paying for Deng

What can we do this summer?

Feels like we need a ton of underrated and undervalued guys with real positive impact. Not just big names

Kenrich Williams would have been nice for this year and next

I think they definitely should consider it. AD’s damaged goods, sorry to say. I think his best years are pretty clearly behind him. This is his injury history over the past year. Rarely do players fare better injury wise post 30. Sell high on AD while you still can. Either that or LeBron should try to leave LA. He should’ve kept his Cleveland approach to contracts.

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the cleveland approach may have dissuaded davis from coming (maybe?)

[The High Cyde]

He’s going to start playing even more timid now. That 5-6 game stretch of great play of his might be the last time he’ll have looked like Anthony Davis.

What can the Lakers poach from the Bulls for him?

[zimpy27]

He’s going to start playing even more timid now. That 5-6 game stretch of great play of his might be the last time he’ll have looked like Anthony Davis.

What can the Lakers poach from the Bulls for him?

Brogdon+Turner is the best offer I've seen for LBJ fit.

I think Bulls would offer an inferior package

[Fadeaway_J]

He’s going to start playing even more timid now. That 5-6 game stretch of great play of his might be the last time he’ll have looked like Anthony Davis.

What can the Lakers poach from the Bulls for him?

Brogdon+Turner is the best offer I've seen for LBJ fit.

I think Bulls would offer an inferior package

Brogdon is almost as injury-prone as AD...

[The High Cyde]

He’s going to start playing even more timid now. That 5-6 game stretch of great play of his might be the last time he’ll have looked like Anthony Davis.

What can the Lakers poach from the Bulls for him?

Brogdon+Turner is the best offer I've seen for LBJ fit.

I think Bulls would offer an inferior package

Brogdon is almost as injury-prone as AD...

Turner is almost AD-lite…could work, ceilings just not there of course but you could still be a solid team.

[Fadeaway_J]

Brogdon+Turner is the best offer I've seen for LBJ fit.

I think Bulls would offer an inferior package

Brogdon is almost as injury-prone as AD...

Turner is almost AD-lite…could work, ceilings just not there of course but you could still be a solid team.

Nowhere near. If you're trading AD at this point, you're not getting back a package that improves your chances of winning right now.

Sad to say, the only hope of success under this regime is for AD to somehow revert to at least top ten form.

[trickshot]

He’s going to start playing even more timid now. That 5-6 game stretch of great play of his might be the last time he’ll have looked like Anthony Davis.

What can the Lakers poach from the Bulls for him?

You can't really trade AD. He's the best tough bucket getter Lebron has played with since Kyrie. If you downgrade that let's just say you'll feel it in the playoffs, well, if or whenever they get there. It has to be a player with similar scoring and those are all top 5-10 players.

[LukaTheGOAT]

Lol maybe Bron doesn't get calls because he doesn't need it as much as other people

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[zimpy27]

Davis has a midfoot injury.

An ankle injury would have had him out for 2-3 weeks.
This is a midfoot injury, usually take 6-12 weeks.

He will be shut down. Season is done.

[Greyhound]

The Lakers need to hold onto AD for at least another season. He is frustrating, but all LeBron needs is for him to put it together for one more season.

Next season could be that season.

He is not a dependable lead guy, but you will not find another superstar who complements LeBron’s game the way he does.

The Lakers need to retool and go back to what works. Make the team big again (big across the board) and put the ball back in LeBron’s hands as the primary decision maker. Make AD the focal point of the offense again and allow LeBron to focus on passing primarily.

- Big team at all positions.

- Two stars surrounded by grunts.

- Dominant defensive team with a mediocre Vogel offense.


The proven keys to success need to be revisited before thinking about moving Davis.
That is not the answer.

[falcolombardi]

Lol maybe Bron doesn't get calls because he doesn't need it as much as other people

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honestly this may be part of it

he scores so much already and finishers through contact si well thst refs dont want to give him too many free throws (aka the ones he probably should get )

on the other hand hand he gets away with a fair bit of pushing off and he rarely gets fouls on defense so is whatever i guess

but still kinda stings to think about lebron with a free throw rate in par with what you would expect from how amount of shots in the paint

he may be pushing jordan scoring numbers career wise

[zimpy27]

The Lakers need to hold onto AD for at least another season. He is frustrating, but all LeBron needs is for him to put it together for one more season.

Next season could be that season.

He is not a dependable lead guy, but you will not find another superstar who complements LeBron’s game the way he does.

The Lakers need to retool and go back to what works. Make the team big again (big across the board) and put the ball back in LeBron’s hands as the primary decision maker. Make AD the focal point of the offense again and allow LeBron to focus on passing primarily.

- Big team at all positions.

- Two stars surrounded by grunts.

- Dominant defensive team with a mediocre Vogel offense.


The proven keys to success need to be revisited before thinking about moving Davis.
That is not the answer.

He will be better next season than this season but he really shouldn't be a C, his body isn't made for it. Lakers need to go back to LeBron at SF or trade Davis.

[Greyhound]

The Lakers need to hold onto AD for at least another season. He is frustrating, but all LeBron needs is for him to put it together for one more season.

Next season could be that season.

He is not a dependable lead guy, but you will not find another superstar who complements LeBron’s game the way he does.

The Lakers need to retool and go back to what works. Make the team big again (big across the board) and put the ball back in LeBron’s hands as the primary decision maker. Make AD the focal point of the offense again and allow LeBron to focus on passing primarily.

- Big team at all positions.

- Two stars surrounded by grunts.

- Dominant defensive team with a mediocre Vogel offense.


The proven keys to success need to be revisited before thinking about moving Davis.
That is not the answer.

He will be better next season than this season but he really shouldn't be a C, his body isn't made for it. Lakers need to go back to LeBron at SF or trade Davis.

Davis going back to PF is one major component of going back big. The key is that he needs to be paired with a shooting big or a grunt work garbage man with the ability to cover on the perimeter (Bismack Biyombo, Tristan Thompson type).

They need a big SG who can defend wings and not get destroyed by big forwards on switches. That guy could be Austin Reaves.

They also need another wing capable of defending PG’s (a KCP type).

[nzahir]

The Lakers need to hold onto AD for at least another season. He is frustrating, but all LeBron needs is for him to put it together for one more season.

Next season could be that season.

He is not a dependable lead guy, but you will not find another superstar who complements LeBron’s game the way he does.

The Lakers need to retool and go back to what works. Make the team big again (big across the board) and put the ball back in LeBron’s hands as the primary decision maker. Make AD the focal point of the offense again and allow LeBron to focus on passing primarily.

- Big team at all positions.

- Two stars surrounded by grunts.

- Dominant defensive team with a mediocre Vogel offense.


The proven keys to success need to be revisited before thinking about moving Davis.
That is not the answer.

He will be better next season than this season but he really shouldn't be a C, his body isn't made for it. Lakers need to go back to LeBron at SF or trade Davis.

Davis going back to PF is one major component of going back big. The key is that he needs to be paired with a shooting big or a grunt work garbage man with the ability to cover on the perimeter (Bismack Biyombo, Tristan Thompson type).

They need a big SG who can defend wings and not get destroyed by big forwards on switches. That guy could be Austin Reaves.

They also need another wing capable of defending PG’s (a KCP type).

Isn't Davis at PF more of an injury risk?

Needs to cover more ground and be on the perimeter even more

We need a stretch big then

Wood was the guy....

I wonder if we can convince Russ to do 3 years 60-70M or 2 years 50-55

Open up some cap space

Nunn opts in possibly?

Maybe convince Monk to take a small deal and pay more later with bird rights?

Use the mle if we have it

Need a major turn around with this team

Say we can't move Russ or he actually opts goes for a longer deal with less hit this year, I try to package a 1st with THT

Stanley? Dwight as a backup C maybe? Melo maybe as a deep bench scorer?

Core pieces:
Lebron, AD, Russ, Reaves, Nunn?, Monk

Missing a long defensive wing who can shoot a bit at least

Missing a starting sg

Missing a stretch big

Missing a mobile big

[zimpy27]

He will be better next season than this season but he really shouldn't be a C, his body isn't made for it. Lakers need to go back to LeBron at SF or trade Davis.

Davis going back to PF is one major component of going back big. The key is that he needs to be paired with a shooting big or a grunt work garbage man with the ability to cover on the perimeter (Bismack Biyombo, Tristan Thompson type).

They need a big SG who can defend wings and not get destroyed by big forwards on switches. That guy could be Austin Reaves.

They also need another wing capable of defending PG’s (a KCP type).

Isn't Davis at PF more of an injury risk?

Needs to cover more ground and be on the perimeter even more

We need a stretch big then

Wood was the guy....

I wonder if we can convince Russ to do 3 years 60-70M or 2 years 50-55

Open up some cap space

Nunn opts in possibly?

Maybe convince Monk to take a small deal and pay more later with bird rights?

Use the mle if we have it

Need a major turn around with this team

Say we can't move Russ or he actually opts goes for a longer deal with less hit this year, I try to package a 1st with THT

Stanley? Dwight as a backup C maybe? Melo maybe as a deep bench scorer?

Core pieces:
Lebron, AD, Russ, Reaves, Nunn?, Monk

Missing a long defensive wing who can shoot a bit at least

Missing a starting sg

Missing a stretch big

Missing a mobile big

His injuries are likely a combination of adding weight so he can be a full time C and the awkward landings in traffic. He needs to keep his frame light and work on his outside shooting.

Davis should use his height as an advantage at PF rather than using his speed as an advantage at C. The speed at C action is just a disaster for him injury-wise.

In the 19-20 season Davis had great +/- numbers with Howard and McGee. In the 20-21 season he had great +/- numbers with Gasol. Don't know why they went away from it.

[zimpy27]

I'm hoping Lakers can convince Westbrook to opt out and sign a 1+1 for $55m. Westbrook does it because it's same as 47m plus another season of 8m but he gets a defacto no trade clause meaning he can't be traded next season.

Lakers would be able to use the 10m MLE and 4m BAE in offseason if Westbrook does this.

On top of this I'd be trying to trade THT+picks to get Melton+Tillman

[Mos_Heat]

Resigning Westbrook is the last thing they should do

[Slava]

Davis hasn't been the same since the quick turnaround after the bubble. He needs to work with a biomechanics specialist on his landing and impact and the Lakers need to get him a center so he can be where he is more comfortable at, switching around, breaking plays on defense and working in the mid post area on offense. Now I guess it explains at least to some extent why New Orleans went around overpaying for centers like Asik and then traded for Cousins, time and again.