Tobias Harris Trade Thread

[ProcessDoctor]

Collins + Bogie would be amazing. I feel like Gordon + Christian Wood is another option in a similar to direction that would be worse but maybe more realistic.

Gordon + Wood is super appealing. I wonder if something like Harris + Springer would be enough.

Only issue is Wood is an expiring contract and might look for a starting C role/more money. We could probably accommodate that if we wanted to by waiving Gordon's final year ($0 guaranteed) and re-signing him for less.

Maxey/Gordon/Milton
Harden/Green/Joe
Niang/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Wood/MLE/Reed
Embiid/Vet Min/Bassey

Harris/Shake for Bojan/Clarkson is still my favorite potential deal though, followed closely by the Houston one.

I really like the idea of Collins/Bogdan but that is tough financially. It's not my money, but ownership would have to be willing to pay A LOT to keep that core around. Those two combined make more than Tobias for more years (Bogie expires the same year as Tobias though).

[Arsenal]

Collins + Bogie would be amazing. I feel like Gordon + Christian Wood is another option in a similar to direction that would be worse but maybe more realistic.

Gordon + Wood is super appealing. I wonder if something like Harris + Springer would be enough. Only issue is Wood is an expiring contract and might look for a starting C role/more money.

Maxey/Gordon/Milton
Harden/Thybulle/Joe
Niang/Green/Korkmaz
Wood/MLE/Reed
Embiid/Vet Min/Bassey

Harris/Shake for Bojan/Clarkson is still my favorite potential deal though.

That's not an issue assuming we don't have to add too much to Harris. Getting out of that guaranteed money 1 year sooner is a win.

I do have concerns about Wood though as he's notorious for locker room issues. Rather move him to a 3rd team if possible.

[ProcessDoctor]

I don't know if trading Tobias this summer is the right move, but if that will be the way, the McCollum trade is a great plot.
Portland was able to flip his 70M in the next 2 years and Nance 10M expiring contract for NAW, 2 expiring/not guaranteed (Sato and Hart) a conditional FRP and 2 seconds.

Basically they found a way to clear cap and add assets.

I'm still shocked at the value they got and am hopeful we can experience something similar. Westbrook reeling in a FRP is also a positive sign.

[mjkvol]

I don't know if trading Tobias this summer is the right move, but if that will be the way, the McCollum trade is a great plot.
Portland was able to flip his 70M in the next 2 years and Nance 10M expiring contract for NAW, 2 expiring/not guaranteed (Sato and Hart) a conditional FRP and 2 seconds.

Basically they found a way to clear cap and add assets.

I'm still shocked at the value they got and am hopeful we can experience something similar. Westbrook reeling in a FRP is also a positive sign.

That trade doesn't tell me that we'll be able to get any real value for Tobias or won't still have to pay to get rid of his contract. It confirms why Portland wouldn't have even considered a McCollum-Harris deal, because McCollum is infinitely more valuable of a player in today's NBA.

[JRoy]

I don't know if trading Tobias this summer is the right move, but if that will be the way, the McCollum trade is a great plot.
Portland was able to flip his 70M in the next 2 years and Nance 10M expiring contract for NAW, 2 expiring/not guaranteed (Sato and Hart) a conditional FRP and 2 seconds.

Basically they found a way to clear cap and add assets.

I'm still shocked at the value they got and am hopeful we can experience something similar. Westbrook reeling in a FRP is also a positive sign.

That trade doesn't tell me that we'll be able to get any real value for Tobias or won't still have to pay to get rid of his contract. It confirms why Portland wouldn't have even considered a McCollum-Harris deal, because McCollum is infinitely more valuable of a player in today's NBA.

Boom

[kriss73]

I don't know if trading Tobias this summer is the right move, but if that will be the way, the McCollum trade is a great plot.
Portland was able to flip his 70M in the next 2 years and Nance 10M expiring contract for NAW, 2 expiring/not guaranteed (Sato and Hart) a conditional FRP and 2 seconds.

Basically they found a way to clear cap and add assets.

I'm still shocked at the value they got and am hopeful we can experience something similar. Westbrook reeling in a FRP is also a positive sign.

That trade doesn't tell me that we'll be able to get any real value for Tobias or won't still have to pay to get rid of his contract. It confirms why Portland wouldn't have even considered a McCollum-Harris deal, because McCollum is infinitely more valuable of a player in today's NBA.

Based on what ?
They wanted to clear the cap and that's why they didn't consider a swap with Tobias.


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[JRoy]

I'm still shocked at the value they got and am hopeful we can experience something similar. Westbrook reeling in a FRP is also a positive sign.

That trade doesn't tell me that we'll be able to get any real value for Tobias or won't still have to pay to get rid of his contract. It confirms why Portland wouldn't have even considered a McCollum-Harris deal, because McCollum is infinitely more valuable of a player in today's NBA.

Based on what ?
They wanted to clear the cap and that's why they didn't consider a swap with Tobias.


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That’s only of several reasons Harris was not a target.

[kriss73]

CJ and Tobias are two different flavors of the same player at almost the same cost.

[Arsenal]

Tobi to SAS for Dougie McBuckets.

Think this works straight up, or it’s close.

Doug can start at SF, then sign RoCo to start at PF. The bombers we need to surround Embiid and Harden.

[mjkvol]

I'm still shocked at the value they got and am hopeful we can experience something similar. Westbrook reeling in a FRP is also a positive sign.

That trade doesn't tell me that we'll be able to get any real value for Tobias or won't still have to pay to get rid of his contract. It confirms why Portland wouldn't have even considered a McCollum-Harris deal, because McCollum is infinitely more valuable of a player in today's NBA.

Based on what ?
They wanted to clear the cap and that's why they didn't consider a swap with Tobias.

That was no doubt a big factor, but the bottom line is a self creator who shoots 3's at the guard position has a far better chance to find a home right now than a tweener forward whose game is from a different era. At half the salary CJ would be a highly sought after asset, while Tobias would still be a JAG, but but could be used as salary filler in a trade.

[ProcessDoctor]

Tobi to SAS for Dougie McBuckets.

Think this works straight up, or it’s close.

Doug can start at SF, then sign RoCo to start at PF. The bombers we need to surround Embiid and Harden.

We were rumored to be interested in him before he signed with San Antonio. Would do that trade 10/10 times.

[mjkvol]

Tobi to SAS for Dougie McBuckets.

Think this works straight up, or it’s close.

Doug can start at SF, then sign RoCo to start at PF. The bombers we need to surround Embiid and Harden.

We were rumored to be interested in him before he signed with San Antonio. Would do that trade 10/10 times.

I think that I might do it 11 out of 10 times.

[zaz102]

I think they'll give Harris a chance and see where he fits in with the new lineup, but I feel like he won't be on the roster next year.

I feel like C&S and D will be a lot more important than what he brings to the table and they should be able to "downgrade" fairly easily.

[DHM]

I think they'll give Harris a chance and see where he fits in with the new lineup, but I feel like he won't be on the roster next year.

I feel like C&S and D will be a lot more important than what he brings to the table and they should be able to "downgrade" fairly easily.

I think with Harden and Joel we need more of a catch and shoot 3s type of player. It’s obvious Tobi does not feel comfortable doing that.

[Arsenal]

Harris + Milton to UTA in exchange for Bogs + Clarkson

Bogs helps our spacing and Clarkson gives punch off the bench.

Jazz get an upgrade as the 3rd player in their "Big 3". Milton can be a decent replacement for Clarkson.

[mjkvol]

Harris + Milton to UTA in exchange for Bogs + Clarkson

Bogs helps our spacing and Clarkson gives punch off the bench.

Jazz get an upgrade as the 3rd player in their "Big 3". Milton can be a decent replacement for Clarkson.

I'd do that in a second, but at this point especially its kind of comical to think of Tobias as being part of any "Big 3".

[ProcessDoctor]

Tobi to SAS for Dougie McBuckets.

Think this works straight up, or it’s close.

Doug can start at SF, then sign RoCo to start at PF. The bombers we need to surround Embiid and Harden.

Based on Wood’s questionable fit/character:

HOU out: Gordon, Wood
HOU in: Harris, Springer, SAS SRP

PHI out: Harris, Springer
PHI in: Gordon, McDermott

SAS out: McDermott, SRP
SAS in: Wood


Maxey/Gordon/Milton
Harden/(Vet min)/Joe
McDermott/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Covington/Niang/Reed
Embiid/(Vet min)/Bassey

[mjkvol]

Tobi to SAS for Dougie McBuckets.

Think this works straight up, or it’s close.

Doug can start at SF, then sign RoCo to start at PF. The bombers we need to surround Embiid and Harden.

Based on Wood’s questionable fit/character:

HOU out: Gordon, Wood
HOU in: Harris, Springer, SAS SRP

PHI out: Harris, Springer
PHI in: Gordon, McDermott

SAS out: McDermott, SRP
SAS in: Wood


Maxey/Gordon/Milton
Harden/(Vet min)/Joe
McDermott/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Covington/Niang/Reed
Embiid/(Vet min)/Bassey

I like it, but why would Houston want Harris?

Then again, why would anyone want Harris? Tank commander, I suppose.

[zaz102]

Tobi to SAS for Dougie McBuckets.

Think this works straight up, or it’s close.

Doug can start at SF, then sign RoCo to start at PF. The bombers we need to surround Embiid and Harden.

Based on Wood’s questionable fit/character:

HOU out: Gordon, Wood
HOU in: Harris, Springer, SAS SRP

PHI out: Harris, Springer
PHI in: Gordon, McDermott

SAS out: McDermott, SRP
SAS in: Wood


Maxey/Gordon/Milton
Harden/(Vet min)/Joe
McDermott/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Covington/Niang/Reed
Embiid/(Vet min)/Bassey

I like it, but why would Houston want Harris?

Then again, why would anyone want Harris? Tank commander, I suppose.

I think we'd have to give up a first to get an ok player back like we did in the Horford trade. Feel like with that we could get something better than Green, but McBuckets and Gordon seem too good to be true.

Honestly, I'm still surprised what McCollum fetched. I had him and Tobias in the same category. Maybe I'm off though.

[mjkvol]

Based on Wood’s questionable fit/character:

HOU out: Gordon, Wood
HOU in: Harris, Springer, SAS SRP

PHI out: Harris, Springer
PHI in: Gordon, McDermott

SAS out: McDermott, SRP
SAS in: Wood


Maxey/Gordon/Milton
Harden/(Vet min)/Joe
McDermott/Thybulle/Korkmaz
Covington/Niang/Reed
Embiid/(Vet min)/Bassey

I like it, but why would Houston want Harris?

Then again, why would anyone want Harris? Tank commander, I suppose.

I think we'd have to give up a first to get an ok player back like we did in the Horford trade. Feel like with that we could get something better than Green, but McBuckets and Gordon seem too good to be true.

Honestly, I'm still surprised what McCollum fetched. I had him and Tobias in the same category. Maybe I'm off though.

But they really aren't, not even close. CJ can be integrated into any team that plays a system from this century. Tobias in this day and age is only going to be useful as salary filler on a tanking team. I hate to be harsh, as he seems to be a good guy, but giving him a max contract was about the worst of many bad moves in the pre-Morey days.