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Most double teamed players in the NBA

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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#21 » by alfie123 » Thu Feb 17, 2022 6:36 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
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YogurtProducer wrote:What? Our starting lineup is filled with ball handlers?


Dribbling isn’t ball handling lol

You are suggesting that FVV, SIakam, and Barnes are not all good ball handlers / playmakers? Hell, you can add GTJ as a guy who can handle the ball and get his own shot.

This is just blind hatred lol


Sure, I bet you think Jokic is a good ball handler too?

I’m saying just because a player can bounce a ball, doesn’t mean they can handle in traffic, navigate a pick and roll and create for others as well as themselves off the bounce.

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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#22 » by libertyYYZ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:37 pm

hyper316 wrote:10. Russell Westbrook

Why are people doubling him? Opposing teams should keep the ball in his hands as long as possible

Haha...would be great to see who doesn't read the scouting reports. It sounds like some coaching staffs are going off old reputation rather than current play.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#23 » by libertyYYZ » Thu Feb 17, 2022 7:41 pm

alienchild wrote:Never knew that FVV was getting this. He's 6th among all players. Pascal 13th

https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en

FVV is second highest in team points produced when doubled at 1.23 points/possession. Pick your poison carefully! :D
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#24 » by YogurtProducer » Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:20 am

dukes_wild wrote:
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phanman wrote:Considering he's the only ballhandling guard we play, it makes sense. Likewise with Pascal

What? Our starting lineup is filled with ball handlers?

Lol what?

Barnes/OG are poor ball handlers, Siakam is fine especially for his position but even his handle isn't very tight, even he's admitted that lol

GTJ is not a ball handler either. He can create his own shot off the dribble a bit, but by no means is he a ball handling guard.

There is a reason our offense is middle of the pack and looks absolutely dreadful at times. We lack guys who can create offense through their ability to handle the basketball in the half court


Our offence, currently ranked 10th, is middle of the pack? That’s news to me.

Our offence is horrible when we have our bench in, but our starting lineup offence is quite good.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#25 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:36 am

I think part of this is that Fred's lack of size to pass over doubles make him easier to double effectively.
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Post#26 » by alienchild » Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:40 am

Ell Curry wrote:I think part of this is that Fred's lack of size to pass over doubles make him easier to double effectively.



Really? Doubled effectively?

Posted earlier in this thread.

FVV is second highest in team points produced when doubled at 1.23 points/possession.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#27 » by Ell Curry » Fri Feb 18, 2022 12:53 am

alienchild wrote:
Ell Curry wrote:I think part of this is that Fred's lack of size to pass over doubles make him easier to double effectively.



Really? Doubled effectively?

Posted earlier in this thread.

FVV is second highest in team points produced when doubled at 1.23 points/possession.


I meant more in terms of what teams are trying then how it's working out. Small guards who can shoot from 25 feet get trapped more.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#28 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:27 am

OakleyDokely wrote:I'm pretty sure the answer here is Lou Williams.

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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#29 » by Johnny Bball » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:51 am

YogurtProducer wrote:
dukes_wild wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:What? Our starting lineup is filled with ball handlers?

Lol what?

Barnes/OG are poor ball handlers, Siakam is fine especially for his position but even his handle isn't very tight, even he's admitted that lol

GTJ is not a ball handler either. He can create his own shot off the dribble a bit, but by no means is he a ball handling guard.

There is a reason our offense is middle of the pack and looks absolutely dreadful at times. We lack guys who can create offense through their ability to handle the basketball in the half court


Our offence, currently ranked 10th, is middle of the pack? That’s news to me.

Our offence is horrible when we have our bench in, but our starting lineup offence is quite good.


The fact that it has risen to tenth says how good it has been the last month plus.

Gary Trent isn't a ballhandler is just such a bad take again. Every single starter can create his own offense, da fuq. :crazy:
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#30 » by Madhouse » Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:57 am

LBJKB24MJ23 wrote:
dukes_wild wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:What? Our starting lineup is filled with ball handlers?

Lol what?

Barnes/OG are poor ball handlers, Siakam is fine especially for his position but even his handle isn't very tight, even he's admitted that lol

GTJ is not a ball handler either. He can create his own shot off the dribble a bit, but by no means is he a ball handling guard.

There is a reason our offense is middle of the pack and looks absolutely dreadful at times. We lack guys who can create offense through their ability to handle the basketball in the half court


this. Barnes and OG can't handle the ball and can't create for themselves on a consistent basis.

and like what Dukes said, GTJ doesn't create for others and is strictly a scorer in this stage of his career.

everyone knows this. thats why the strategy is get the ball out of Siakam and FVV's hands. hence this conversation of the stats by OP.


general ball movement is also lacking.

Near dead last in assists.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#31 » by OhCanada1091 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:30 am

MadDogSHWA wrote:
alfie123 wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:What? Our starting lineup is filled with ball handlers?


Dribbling isn’t ball handling lol


That's interesting. I'm not familiar with the distinction. Could you explain it, please?

Dribbling isn't ball handling? 'Handles'? Wtf is it then, I'm confused.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#32 » by Mascot » Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:47 am

No shooters,
High minutes played
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#33 » by alfie123 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:45 pm

OhCanada1091 wrote:
MadDogSHWA wrote:
alfie123 wrote:
Dribbling isn’t ball handling lol


That's interesting. I'm not familiar with the distinction. Could you explain it, please?

Dribbling isn't ball handling? 'Handles'? Wtf is it then, I'm confused.


Can OG, GTJ or Scottie navigate pick and roll, dribble in traffic, get themselves open with their dribble or find others as elite playmakers?

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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#34 » by Yorkz » Fri Feb 25, 2022 4:23 pm

alienchild wrote:Never knew that FVV was getting this. He's 6th among all players. Pascal 13th

https://nbacourtoptix.nba.com/en

This thread was referenced on Will Lou's show yesterday with Blake Murphy. Nice.
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Re: Most double teamed players in the NBA 

Post#35 » by Dalek » Fri Feb 25, 2022 10:54 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:I'm pretty sure the answer here is Lou Williams.

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