Beenie wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:Beenie wrote:
Bam isn’t untouchable. Very few players are.
Furthermore, getting a better version of Herro to pair with Bam and Jimmy is fine, but so is getting a better version of Bam to pair with Jimmy and Herro.
The reason why I favor the latter is because Bam would fetch a higher return and I personally prefer Herro’s upside.
The NBA is a perimeter scorers league and Herro has elite shooting potential at all 3 levels.
Bam’s goofy around the rim, he has an unreliable mid range game, and doesn’t shoot from long range at all.
Contrary to my criticism of Bam, I don’t hate him. I’m very much a fan. I’m just annoyed by the noisy exaggeration of his potential which comes off as heat homer blind bias.
Bam is better and a more complete player right now than Herro will ever be. You’re going to be sick when Herro is the same player now as he is on his max contract. What exactly is this potential from Herro you’re seeing? What do you see in him that tells you he will grow a lot? Physically he doesn’t have the tools, not crazy fast or athletic, short arms, etc. hell never be a plus defender. The team is better when he’s off the court. His numbers have increased this season due to more shots and higher usage and it’s got you all confused, his efficiency has dropped(worst of his career).
Do I like Herro? Yes. Am I taking his future over Bams? Hell no, and thankfully the Heat think the same.
Who’s the Bam type player better than him currently that you’re trading him for?
If the lakers decide the dismantle in the off-season, I’d make a play for AD while his value is low.
I’d also poke around on the whether Zion could be had.
But it doesn’t even necessarily have to be a big. Any elite or potential elite player that might shake loose from their situation, I’d be in on, and the most likely scenario is that the other team will want Bam.
Yurts is cheap and he’s already established himself as an elite rebounder who can score in the paint and has potential to space the floor as a shooter. I’m inclined to role with him at center next season and add a perimeter scorer using Bam as the bait.
Regarding your statement that Bam is better now than Herro will ever be, lol.
Bam’s still trying to learn fundamentals 5 years into his professional career. He can’t execute a basic drop step. Meanwhile, Herro’s floater, euro, off-hand layup have all improved in year 3.
So 2 guys made of glass, one of which that has played 4 more games in his first 3 seasons than Greg Oden did? I’ll give it to you it would be hard to turn down AD but ultimately he’s made of glass, Bam is an Ironman outside of 1 injury in his career. We already have Jimmy who misses tons of time every season, we don’t need another.
The Yurt stuff I won’t even touch on because that’s just dumb as hell to be completely honest.
Bam is still working on fundamentals but has more efficient scoring numbers than Herro averaged like 1 less point and that’s the main thing Herro is considered “good” at.
I’ll just make this real simple. Take their best side of the ball, Bams being defense and Herros being offense. Bams defense worst case is top 5 in the world, Herros defense can potentially be very good but it’ll never be top 5 in the world. May not even be top 5 offensively at his position.
Now take their “weaker” side in quotes because bams offense while developing is not weak. Bams offensive game right now compared to Herros defense is better than it will ever be. Right now Herro is one of the worst defenders in the league. My hope for him is that he can become a good team defender in the scheme of things like curry has managed to do because 1 on 1 he’ll never have the tools to guard good offensive players.
I have no clue what Herro has done that has blinded a few of you and made you delusional. Compare him to guard his age who are held on the same light, trae Luka Ja Halburton both Ball brothers Edwards and hell now that he’s in a more featured role, Anfernee Simmons are all better players than Herro.
I’m rooting for all of our guys to succeed and I hope for them all to be the best at their positions. I hope Herro breaks Wilts scoring record his first game back after the all star break. But when you start comparing Herro and Yurt to Bam and start talking about taking them now and for the future over Bam you’re just being ignorant and delusional. It’s not debatable.
