OT: Juwan Howard throws "punch"; Suspended for remainder of season

[MorbidHEAT]

Players brawling are one thing, but the coach starting it which leads to players getting involved....nope. He should and will be fired. I doubt he has a job on Tuesday morning.

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Could the Wisconsin coach have just walked off and not responded to Howard? Yes.
Does him not doing that mean it was OK to take a shot at his assistant's face? Not even a little bit.

The other guy didn't do anything that he couldn't have easily walked away from at any time, but he chose that interaction over and over and then took a cheap and stupid swing. Time to take resonsibility.

Yes to the first part.

Meh to the second part. Gard chose the interaction by not walking away, that is literally what Howard is doing. Gard could have not got in his path (Howard didn’t get in his). Gard could have not grabbed him. Gard could have stopped jawing. There a lots of lots of opportunities for both sides here.

The assistant that comes in hot is as much to blame as the others. Howard didn’t reach at Gard, he reached at that dude.

Howard's attempted violent act and your rationalization of it makes it clear neither one of you should be leading young men. There is nothing that justifies Howard's actions and continued excuse making for it is a really bad look.

Lol.

Grey. Or gray. Pick one. The world comes in this color.

Howard was over the top and he was the spark that lit this off. I haven’t said anything else, if you bother to read and grasp nuance. He could definitely lose his job over it, zero sweat off my back.

But go out on the street and grab the next guy walking by you looking heated and block his path and mouth at him. See what happens. There’s blame all around. You 100%’er are the ones looking silly, like we can’t see who grabbed who first or who blocked the other guys path or mouthed off or had an assistant come in hot making it all worse. Eyes….got’em.

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He literally started the conversation.
"I'm going to remember that."
If you engage someone in conversation don't be surprised or upset when they also want to say something

Words and hands are different things.

Really? Disingenuous. Come on.

Try using he frame of the initial grab. Gard lays hands first. There’s no disputing that.

[Ayt]

Words and hands are different things.

Really? Disingenuous. Come on.

Try using he frame of the initial grab. Gard lays hands first. There’s no disputing that.

"Lays hands." Yeah, he grabbed his arm because he wanted to talk to him. You know, like they had done previously. How was he supposed to know Howard would flip out like that?

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Really? Disingenuous. Come on.

Try using he frame of the initial grab. Gard lays hands first. There’s no disputing that.

"Lays hands." Yeah, he grabbed his arm because he wanted to talk to him. You know, like they had done previously. How was he supposed to know Howard would flip out like that?

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When you call timeout in the final seconds up big and the coach comes through line near last and says to you while trying to walk past, without shaking hands, that he’ll remember that ****, these should all be clues that you should not grab his arm, imped his progress and get in his space. Lol. It’s called common sense.

And again, for those with a difficult time understanding that two things can both be true…none of that is justification for Howard reaching.

[ChiCitySPORTS#1]

Really? Disingenuous. Come on.

Try using he frame of the initial grab. Gard lays hands first. There’s no disputing that.

"Lays hands." Yeah, he grabbed his arm because he wanted to talk to him. You know, like they had done previously. How was he supposed to know Howard would flip out like that?

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When you call timeout in the final seconds up big and the coach comes through line near last and says to you while trying to walk past, without shaking hands, that he’ll remember that ****, these should all be clues that you should not grab his arm, imped his progress and get in his space. Lol. It’s called common sense.

And again, for those with a difficult time understanding that two things can both be true…none of that is justification for Howard reaching.

Nothing here is justified for Howard. He was full court pressing Wisconsin's scrubs while getting blown out. TO was called to avoid a violation. I don’t care for either school - but this isn’t the first time Howard has acted out, either.

Juwan Howard is a new coach. I will side with the more tenured professional if I’m being honest. You just don’t do something like that. It’s blasphemes in college sports. It’s like punching a ref. Just can’t do it in any circumstance

[Ayt]

Really? Disingenuous. Come on.

Try using he frame of the initial grab. Gard lays hands first. There’s no disputing that.

"Lays hands." Yeah, he grabbed his arm because he wanted to talk to him. You know, like they had done previously. How was he supposed to know Howard would flip out like that?

Read on Twitter

When you call timeout in the final seconds up big and the coach comes through line near last and says to you while trying to walk past, without shaking hands, that he’ll remember that ****, these should all be clues that you should not grab his arm, imped his progress and get in his space. Lol. It’s called common sense.

And again, for those with a difficult time understanding that two things can both be true…none of that is justification for Howard reaching.

That just makes it dumber since Howard was the one in the wrong for running a full court press then bawling that the opposing team didn't just roll over and turn the ball over multiple times. The shot clock wasn't even on at that point. Wisconsin inbounded the ball with 22 seconds left and were just trying to get past half court to end the game. Michigan should have just let them dribble the clock out like normal people, but apparently Howard is some thin-skinned weirdo. Michigan even fouled after the timeout even though they could have just let the game end. I can't remember the last time I saw a team do what Michigan did, and then Howard has the gall to be offended and instigate a brawl.

What an idiot.

[SNPA]

"Lays hands." Yeah, he grabbed his arm because he wanted to talk to him. You know, like they had done previously. How was he supposed to know Howard would flip out like that?

Read on Twitter

When you call timeout in the final seconds up big and the coach comes through line near last and says to you while trying to walk past, without shaking hands, that he’ll remember that ****, these should all be clues that you should not grab his arm, imped his progress and get in his space. Lol. It’s called common sense.

And again, for those with a difficult time understanding that two things can both be true…none of that is justification for Howard reaching.

That just makes it dumber since Howard was the one in the wrong for running a full court press then bawling that the opposing team didn't just roll over and turn the ball over multiple times. The shot clock wasn't even on at that point. Wisconsin inbounded the ball with 22 seconds left and were just trying to get past half court to end the game. Michigan should have just let them dribble the clock out like normal people, but apparently Howard is some thin-skinned weirdo. Michigan even fouled after the timeout even though they could have just let the game end. I can't remember the last time I saw a team do what Michigan did, and then Howard has the gall to be offended and instigate a brawl.

What an idiot.

All fine. But my point is there are two other dummies here that contributed.

The assistant has a sizable amount of blame. Howard and Gard had separated, it took him coming in clearing space and mouthing before Howard reached.

[DaddyCool19]

When you call timeout in the final seconds up big and the coach comes through line near last and says to you while trying to walk past, without shaking hands, that he’ll remember that ****, these should all be clues that you should not grab his arm, imped his progress and get in his space. Lol. It’s called common sense.

And again, for those with a difficult time understanding that two things can both be true…none of that is justification for Howard reaching.

That just makes it dumber since Howard was the one in the wrong for running a full court press then bawling that the opposing team didn't just roll over and turn the ball over multiple times. The shot clock wasn't even on at that point. Wisconsin inbounded the ball with 22 seconds left and were just trying to get past half court to end the game. Michigan should have just let them dribble the clock out like normal people, but apparently Howard is some thin-skinned weirdo. Michigan even fouled after the timeout even though they could have just let the game end. I can't remember the last time I saw a team do what Michigan did, and then Howard has the gall to be offended and instigate a brawl.

What an idiot.

All fine. But my point is there are two other dummies here that contributed.

The assistant has a sizable amount of blame. Howard and Gard had separated, it took him coming in clearing space and mouthing before Howard reached.

Are you related to Juwan?

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That just makes it dumber since Howard was the one in the wrong for running a full court press then bawling that the opposing team didn't just roll over and turn the ball over multiple times. The shot clock wasn't even on at that point. Wisconsin inbounded the ball with 22 seconds left and were just trying to get past half court to end the game. Michigan should have just let them dribble the clock out like normal people, but apparently Howard is some thin-skinned weirdo. Michigan even fouled after the timeout even though they could have just let the game end. I can't remember the last time I saw a team do what Michigan did, and then Howard has the gall to be offended and instigate a brawl.

What an idiot.

All fine. But my point is there are two other dummies here that contributed.

The assistant has a sizable amount of blame. Howard and Gard had separated, it took him coming in clearing space and mouthing before Howard reached.

Are you related to Juwan?

Yes.

And I’m a big Michigan fan. And hate Gard. My life is all about east coast college basketball. I’m totally biased here.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

I hate this unwritten rule.
Play the game till the end rugby style.
Stop being a baby

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[hoosierdaddy34]

No Juwon Howard is not getting fired. He didn’t throw a punch. The head coach of the other team grabs his arm to stop him when he clearly didn’t want to talk. He had a right to be a little pissed. Then that assistant coach clearly was talking a ton of ****…

And he didn’t punch him. He swiped at him with an open hand. No he shouldn’t have touched the other coach but saying he punched the dude is clearly trying to create intent that doesn’t exist. A punch can kill someone. A swipe/slap like that is clearly sent to get someone’s attention that they are pushing it.

Howard should be suspended for a length of time. You have to not condone hitting another person, whether it’s player or coach. But no he didn’t try to hurt the man and no he absolutely will not be fired over this. Get off your soapbox if you are preaching that he should be. Save the fake outrage.

[sfballa13]

No Juwon Howard is not getting fired. He didn’t throw a punch. The head coach of the other team grabs his arm to stop him when he clearly didn’t want to talk. He had a right to be a little pissed. Then that assistant coach clearly was talking a ton of ****…

And he didn’t punch him. He swiped at him with an open hand. No he shouldn’t have touched the other coach but saying he punched the dude is clearly trying to create intent that doesn’t exist. A punch can kill someone. A swipe/slap like that is clearly sent to get someone’s attention that they are pushing it.

Howard should be suspended for a length of time. You have to not condone hitting another person, whether it’s player or coach. But no he didn’t try to hurt the man and no he absolutely will not be fired over this. Get off your soapbox if you are preaching that he should be. Save the fake outrage.

Since when did RealGM become a snowflake central zone

What do you think is going to happen when you are a fat white dude grabbing an arm of a 7 ft former NBA player while your fat white assistant coach talks crap to said former NBA player's face

You think any 7 foot tall guy is going to let two fat white dudes grab him and talk smack to his face without reacting - irrespective about how he felt slighted about the time out

2-3 game suspension max

[trueballer7]

Fights happen.

[Else_where]

He was always a hot head even when he was a player, wasn't he?

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i don't quite understand people who say that wisconsin should dribble to the end and it's unwritten rule. yeah, it is, but how could they do it if michigan were full pressing and end of W bench just wasn't able to get the ball across the middle line? if i understand correctly, some of you think that they should lost the ball 3 or 4 times to Michigan's starting players and give up another 6 or 8 points and THAT'S OK because it's unwritten rule? and it's fair and sportmanship? man, they wanted to, michigan prevented it, so wisconsin give theirselves more time.
lol, rule is one take a ball, dribble driblble dribble while opposing team is waiting, hear the siren, wait in line and go home. there's something strange in believing that only team that's winning need to behave in some way, while the other team don't have to take a lose with dignity.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

But go out on the street and grab the next guy walking by you looking heated and block his path and mouth at him. See what happens. There’s blame all around. You 100%’er are the ones looking silly, like we can’t see who grabbed who first or who blocked the other guys path or mouthed off or had an assistant come in hot making it all worse. Eyes….got’em.

The video must be really poor quality, I didn't realize it was an interactions between come random people on the street and not two highly paid college coaches interacting at the end of a televised game.
May bad.

[Ryoga Hibiki]

No Juwon Howard is not getting fired. He didn’t throw a punch. The head coach of the other team grabs his arm to stop him when he clearly didn’t want to talk. He had a right to be a little pissed. Then that assistant coach clearly was talking a ton of ****…

And he didn’t punch him. He swiped at him with an open hand. No he shouldn’t have touched the other coach but saying he punched the dude is clearly trying to create intent that doesn’t exist. A punch can kill someone. A swipe/slap like that is clearly sent to get someone’s attention that they are pushing it.

Howard should be suspended for a length of time. You have to not condone hitting another person, whether it’s player or coach. But no he didn’t try to hurt the man and no he absolutely will not be fired over this. Get off your soapbox if you are preaching that he should be. Save the fake outrage.

Since when did RealGM become a snowflake central zone

What do you think is going to happen when you are a fat white dude grabbing an arm of a 7 ft former NBA player while your fat white assistant coach talks crap to said former NBA player's face

You think any 7 foot tall guy is going to let two fat white dudes grab him and talk smack to his face without reacting - irrespective about how he felt slighted about the time out

2-3 game suspension max

so much racism in this post, really

[Hans1984]

He's obviously not stable enough to work as a coach.

[dshearn]

with the new video of this coming out, it does appear Gard tried to diffuse this after he realized grabbing Howard was a big mistake.

Howard repeated several times "Don't touch me" after Gard grabbed his arm in an attempt to stop him so they could talk. Gard did let go and repeated several times "your just frustrated." He was clearly trying to write off Howard's reaction to frustration to diffuse the situation. Without the audio... to me ...it looked worse on Gard then it does now. Gard was animated, but the tone of voice and the message Gard was delivering clearly was an attempted to comfort Howard.

I assumed Gard said something to set Howard off, but that is not the case. The assistant might have said something, but I can't make out what he said in the new video that was posted.

Howard has to do better then this, I am sure Howard knows he has to do better then this. Let's hope this is a learning experience.